Countdown to Melbourne and New Zealand Pro

[FastFreddy]

hi again ,MK

well ,i think your going have to be dam good at hiding them at there weak point(or as you say wrong angle).with my novice eyes of 15 or more years it dose seem they are you weak body part.

if ya ever in the bay,look up a good freind of mine(mike ralton) hes a scott. i told him 10 years ago his calves were weak,him been the genetic god he is,the next time i saw him they were massive,no shit!

come to think of it,i think he could walk on stage and win any comp in nz ,and drug tested! with a about a months training and diet,

im not trying to mock ya dude,but if i new i was going up against ya on stage,id be training my calves like hell to expose yours!

[FastFreddy]

O,one other thing,do you know if Kim Rongonui will be comping there too?

hes from hawera and started out at my gym meany years ago,he won the nakis a year or two ago,hes based in aussie i think now

[michaelk]

I know Kim, top guy I met him a couple of years ago when we did the Naki, at my 82kg vs his 102kg I feel I took three of the 7 poses off him that day - (I will be onstage in Melbourne and Auckland at 95kg next time), and Mike Ryan called it the best class in the 20 years of the Taranaki shows history-

actually Kim sorted my accomadation out for me and gave me his NPC Team Queensland shirt , I'll look forward to catching up with him again.

I don't know whether he is Pro, he won the Aussie Nationals HW class in 05 I understand, but i'm not familiar whether they grant the card at the Nationals or you have to do Paul Grahams Pro Qualifier.

You might have an opinion about my calves, but hey, excuse me if I take the advise of Top IFBB Pro Moe Mossawi and International IFBB judge Tom Terry over you, those that have actually seen me in person have a better understanding of what I need to do over someone checkin out four pics.

[FastFreddy]

say hi to kim from nathan plz MK.

now i mit of pissed ya off about you calves,but im saying it as i see it! go had anyways!good luck!

one other thing,ryans head is so far up his own ass i would take what he says as a grain of salt! you seen his gutts! and hes never ever trained his leggs!! bad back! bull shit! lazzy prick!

it was a good comp,i was there too,but i didnt think anyone came with in mile of kim,

there was one guy in a lighter class i thought was good,think he was indian.

[michaelk]

Pissed off?

hardly, take in context my comment.

You are by your own admission a novice who is looking at pictures, I have pointed out that a Top Pro and Top international judge have reviewed my physique in person and complement me on my calves, and I am choosing to take their advice. Tom and I agree that I need more ham size and lower trap/mid back thickness. I always feel I need more quad size, and Moe has pointed out that at that level medial head of the delt development is paramount, so I am focussed more on those opinions than yours.

As I said, keep in context these experts have seen me in person, and as you know with your experience it is far more accurate than a photo.

I have also pointed out that my photography is the likely cause of your error, and am still happy to send you a pic of my calves if you'd like.

[Dumbelldog]

I was in that line up as well with Mike and Kim, what were my weak points? Seeing as how your such an expert!

[FastFreddy]

come on lol db dog,that was 2 years ago wasnt it! i cant remember everthing! and i was only giving my opinion on what i remember from the show,and MKs calve pic.

dont take it to heart!I asked my partner at lunch what she could remember fromthat show too,her words were: no one was close to kim! :pfft:

[MasterTel]

it was a good comp,i was there too,but i didnt think anyone came with in mile of kim,

there was one guy in a lighter class i thought was good,think he was indian.

Yep - I also competed at that show in '05 and it certainly was a beauty! I well remember the fantastic battle between Kim and Mike in their class. I managed to win the Masters Over 40 class and make up the numbers in the overall lineup which Kim deservedly won.

Apart from Kim's impressive physique, one thing that I distinctly recall was that 2 or 3 of his fingers on one of his hands had been amputated at the first knuckle. I assume he'd lost them in an accident, but obviously he found ways to train effectively with his hand like this. I also bumped into him last year at the Australian Pro show on the Gold Coast - he was one of backstage helpers there.

The "indian" guy was Sanjeev Narayan (from Auckland, I think) - he won the Overall NZFBB Wellington title that year and while he wasn't "big", he had amazing symmetry and proportion. I don't think he has competed since then - at least not in NZ.

[Dumbelldog]

There is a feature somewhere on the Muscle mania website about him MT

[FastFreddy]

hi guys,your on the money there tel!

kims dad is here right now having a workout! dave did very well in his day too!

Kim did work around his fingers problem well a,u think how hard it would be pick up 50 kg d/bs like that a,

[MasterTel]

Kim did work around his fingers problem well a,u think how hard it would be pick up 50 kg d/bs like that a,

I totally agree, Mr HD NZ!! .. picking up 50kg dumbells is damn hard enough for a skinny old man like me (who has all his fingers intact!) to haul up! :pfft:

[2guns]

michael... do u think u will kick salahs arse at the pro show?

[IronGame]

michael... do u think u will kick salahs arse at the pro show?

Haha tryin to start a fight bro? :pfft:

[michaelk]

Salah knows what I think the outcome of our competitve meeting will be, I told him in person when we were at his shop. We're great friends, the gym is our battleground- the stage our warzone, but in the end we come off as mates.

I actually have on my fridge a quote of Salah's he left on my voicemail after i won the Overall Mr New Zealand; "you come out like a man...you won like a lion" its sounds much cooler in his accent!

Took this pic tonight at the gym of my calf, hope it meets you expert and esteemed approval mr HD :pfft:

[2guns]

Haha tryin to start a fight bro?

na it just cracks me up how people talk shit and talk it up but then when they face to face with the person they humble as hell lol.

LMAO! salah told me in his shop that his place is 2nd to last lol

[Paul]

Took this pic tonight at the gym of my calf, hope it meets you expert and esteemed approval mr HD :pfft:

I have you beat this is me with a little bit of a pump on

[michaelk]

Haha tryin to start a fight bro?

na it just cracks me up how people talk shit and talk it up but then when they face to face with the person they humble as hell lol.

LMAO! salah told me in his shop that his place is 2nd to last lol

Well that made little to no sense to me, I don't know if you think it's me or Salah that "talk shit and talking it up", but we (Salah and I) just had a good conversation about your post Tom...was very interesting. We both know exactly what the other thinks, no secrets-never have been between us.

Face to face we both are honest and open about what we think the end result will be.

I'm not on this website to badmouth anyone, if I have something to say to someone, I tend to save it till I can say it to their face.

This will be the end of this part of the topic (re: me v Salah) you'll hear from me, say what you want hereafter, I'll stick with bodybuilding talk on this site-under this post I'll discuss my countdown and prepation to those that are interested.

Paul- Is that Paul deMayos calf? are you logging on from the afterlife?

[2guns]

I'm not on this website to badmouth anyone, if I have something to say to someone, I tend to save it till I can say it to their face.

neither am i, and anything i put on this site id happily say it to whoevers face, its basically the same if people know who u are.

bro chill out and dont be so naieve, but yeah lets finish this convo b4 it gets real outta control

[FastFreddy]

not realy Mk!

[Paul]

Whats happening here :poked: you still doing the show or have you canned the idea.

[michaelk]

Thanks for your enthusiatic concern for my comp agenda

still growing, and are now 104kg (with a 4 pack), was sitting at 100k when the photo's were taken. 4 and a half weeks till I start to diet, 14 weeks til Melbourne.

[blairandkelly]

thats a good lookin calk michael how many inches ?

[michaelk]

thats a good lookin calf michael how many inches ?

Around 18", more importantly everything is in balance.

[bigmd]

Hey Mike K. Give it heaps mate and stay focused.

MR HD NZ. I dont think i have ever read such a lot of green eyed moster crap!!!! May be you could give me some pointers too as the expert you are.

Mike has paid his dues, done it hard and is out to forfull a dream who are you too be so negative?

Mike Debenham

Mr (very pissed) 2007 Overall Mr NZ

[bigmd]

My Appologise to the rest of the forum for my last post.

i have competed against Mike K. and he has the chance to live out a dream (that i too once had) NO BODY should take the shine off that.