True Measure Of Ones Strength

[olympia]

Curious as to what your guys opinions are on gauging ones overall strength. Is there one excercise ( such as the squat, dead or bench) or is it a combo of these excercises and more. Everyone seems to always ask "How much ya bench?" but to me its not using a heap of lower leg power. So whats your guys opinions?

[VanillaGorilla]

The clean & jerk.

Leg power, pull power, press power

[maassive]

The clean & jerk.

Leg power, pull power, press power

+1, ALTHOUGH technique fucks a lot of people on this because not many actually do it.

[samuelNZ]

Total in a PL comp.. :pfft:

[devil_911]

bicep curl lol :pfft:

[thatwaslight]

Leg press while incline dumbbell benching at the same time

[Chemo]

How many double downs your stomach muscles can hold in

[olympia]

The clean & jerk.

Leg power, pull power, press power

The one excercise i dont do . Good call though.

Leg press while incline dumbbell benching at the same time

I will try this tomorrow.

[drizzt]

If I had to pick a single exercise, I'd say the deadlift. There isn't a lot of ways you can cheat on a deadlift (as opposed to half squats/"spotted" bench), and theres not a heck of a lot of technique involved - in the sense that most people can just bend over, pick up a bar, and stand up straight with it :nod:

[Monarchking]

If I had to pick a single exercise, I'd say the deadlift. There isn't a lot of ways you can cheat on a deadlift (as opposed to half squats/"spotted" bench), and theres not a heck of a lot of technique involved - in the sense that most people can just bend over, pick up a bar, and stand up straight with it :nod:

this is how I monitored my strength over my lifting career. If my deads up my other lifts are up aswell.

[BarBrother]

Yeah Deadlift,

Functional ( Not the kind of Swiss Ball Squats PT functioal, lifting heavy fuking shit functional)

Easy to learn

Recruits about 80% of body muscles ( referennce somewhere )

Easy to measure

[Riccardo]

Agree on deadlift:

"The deadlift is more functional in that it’s very hard to imagine a more useful application of strength than picking heavy shit up off the ground"

-Mark Rippetoe

[train hard]

yeap deadlift it takes the bullshit factor out you can either lift it or not no half reps or knee bend squats bullshit

[maassive]

If I had to pick a single exercise, I'd say the deadlift. There isn't a lot of ways you can cheat on a deadlift (as opposed to half squats/"spotted" bench), and theres not a heck of a lot of technique involved - in the sense that most people can just bend over, pick up a bar, and stand up straight with it :nod:

Yeah this is a good call, and takes away the technique difficulties of clean and jerk.

Interesting that most people (especially the gear journals) don't use the deads to record how their strength is progressing. I would like to see this more.

(A recent journal actually listed a barbell shrug as a measurement of progress.... srsly?)

[maassive]

why is this in bodybuilding training?

bbs don't give a f*ck about strength...

in the words of pman: Let shit storm commence.

[maassive]

why is this in bodybuilding training?

bbs don't give a f*ck about strength...

in the words of pman: Let shit storm commence.

[Dr Squat]

Difficult to identify a single exercise. The problem with the power clean is that it is technically difficult to do. Most people turn it into a reverse curl.

I have a powerlifting bias so the big 3 are my measure for guys and girls I help out. I know that professional rugby in NZ use the squat, bench and weighted chin as part of their testing battery.

[samuelNZ]

I know that professional rugby in NZ use the squat, bench and weighted chin as part of their testing battery.

Really? How did you find this out?

I would have though they would have the deadlift in there also.

[Dr Squat]

I know that professional rugby in NZ use the squat, bench and weighted chin as part of their testing battery.

Really? How did you find this out?

I would have though they would have the deadlift in there also.

Contacts bro. I'm not sure of their rationale. I expect it is based on what happens in other pro sports.

[Tonka]

I know that professional rugby in NZ use the squat, bench and weighted chin as part of their testing battery.

Really? How did you find this out?

I would have though they would have the deadlift in there also.

Contacts bro. I'm not sure of their rationale. I expect it is based on what happens in other pro sports.

Squats - lower body strength

Bench - pushing/explosive power

Weighted chins - upper body strength

The deadlift would be too foreign for many sportsmen and proper technique would be an issue. The squat would also be advanced for many sportsmen but even an unweighted bar used to squat with would show many body weaknesses.

Doc has the contacts alright, his brother is a world renowned sports scientist and is the current Sports Scientist for the NZ Academy of Sport as well as a strength and conditioning coach for some of NZ's elitest athletes!

[Grover]

Really? How did you find this out?

I would have though they would have the deadlift in there also.

Contacts bro. I'm not sure of their rationale. I expect it is based on what happens in other pro sports.

Squats - lower body strength

Bench - pushing/explosive power

Weighted chins - upper body strength

The deadlift would be too foreign for many sportsmen and proper technique would be an issue. The squat would also be advanced for many sportsmen but even an unweighted bar used to squat with would show many body weaknesses.

Doc has the contacts alright, his brother is a world renowned sports scientist and is the current Sports Scientist for the NZ Academy of Sport as well as a strength and conditioning coach for some of NZ's elitest athletes!

Whole new meaning to Bro science then?

[thatwaslight]

I'd say more strong man type stuff, never done it myself but it seems the most relevant in terms of real world strength. Not often your under a perfectly balanced barbell.

[Big john]

I'd say more strong man type stuff, never done it myself but it seems the most relevant in terms of real world strength. Not often your under a perfectly balanced barbell.

agreed...atlas and natural stones come to mind

[olympia]

Well i dont have any Atlas stones so im going to use Deads, Bench, Squat as my gauge . Thanks guys.

[Dr Squat]

I'd say more strong man type stuff, never done it myself but it seems the most relevant in terms of real world strength. Not often your under a perfectly balanced barbell.

agreed...atlas and natural stones come to mind

Technique again might be the issue here bro.