Tom's 8 week and 16 week transformation.

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tren= slight airways constriction? thats what i heard.. HUHUHU

[tomsammce]

Ah yes you can....back to the drawing board for you sonny boy!

well only on high doses as progesterins are female hormones, but most of us dont experience water retention on it coz we dont use a gram a week of tren like you. and why do u use that much? you dont look like you use a gram of tren a week. ur winning...

heard u had a wedding within the last couple of years, so tell me... whats it like marrying your chin or was it your twin??

Doesnt have to be a high dose to see prolactin problems.

It's a well known fact these days.

we were talking about water retention not other prolactin sides. and water retention on a low to moderate dose of tren doesnt happen, if your getting it not from the tren. maybe its half tren half deca lol like the half test half synthol vials u have.

[samoan_muscle]

well only on high doses as progesterins are female hormones, but most of us dont experience water retention on it coz we dont use a gram a week of tren like you. and why do u use that much? you dont look like you use a gram of tren a week. ur winning...

heard u had a wedding within the last couple of years, so tell me... whats it like marrying your chin or was it your twin??

Doesnt have to be a high dose to see prolactin problems.

It's a well known fact these days.

we were talking about water retention not other prolactin sides. and water retention on a low to moderate dose of tren doesnt happen, if your getting it not from the tren. maybe its half tren half deca lol like the half test half synthol vials u have.

Disagree - at the end of the day it really depends how sensitive you are to prog/prolactin sides. Water retention being one of them.

[tomsammce]

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[tomsammce]

if I had bitch tits and everyside in the world like u I'd probably try say it was the norm and common too. But it's not, the high majority of ppl don't get water retention from a low to mod dose of trenbolone. Period.

[thatwaslight]

cosign that tren fucks your fitness im breathless as f*ck after bench! :shock: :shock: :shock:

[rose]

cosign that tren fucks your fitness im breathless as f*ck after bench! :shock: :shock: :shock:

The following is not intended to be medical advice, but something to consider. It's a pretty simple thing and one that's often overlooked

Steroid use may increase magnesium requirements (as can a high protein diet). Magnesium is essential for proper heart function and rentention of other mins such as potassium and calcium. Serum magnesium levels (the test most docs use) don't reflect body stores of magnesium. Blood levels are kept within the normal range at the expense of other tissues.

Low magnesium can result in shortness of breath on exertion, which could be perceived as lack of fitness. It may be that diet and daily multi are not meeting requirements (e.g. due to competing nutrients in a multi, malabsorption in the GI tract, or general insuffciency).

Magnesium is a critical element in 325+ biochemical reactions in the human body.

Recent research, in France and several other European countries, gives a clue concerning the role of magnesium plays in the transmission of hormones (such as insulin, thyroid, estrogen, testosterone, DHEA, etc.), neurotransmitters (such as dopamine, catecholamines, serotonin, GABA, etc.), and minerals and mineral electrolytes.

This research concludes that it is magnesium status that controls cell membrane potential and through this means controls uptake and release of many hormones, nutrients and neurotransmitters. It is magnesium that controls the fate of potassium and calcium in the body. If magnesium is insufficient potassium and calcium will be lost in the urine and calcium will be deposited in the soft tissues (kidneys, arteries, joints, brain, etc.).

Formula to Calculate Magnesium Daily Requirement

5 to 10 milligrams per day per kilo of ideal body weight or 2.5 to 4.5 milligrams per day per pound of ideal body weight.

Example: 70 kilos or 150 pounds = 350 mg to 700 mg daily

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cosign that tren fucks your fitness im breathless as f*ck after bench! :shock: :shock: :shock:

The following is not intended to be medical advice, but something to consider. It's a pretty simple thing and one that's often overlooked

Steroid use may increase magnesium requirements (as can a high protein diet). Magnesium is essential for proper heart function and rentention of other mins such as potassium and calcium. Serum magnesium levels (the test most docs use) don't reflect body stores of magnesium. Blood levels are kept within the normal range at the expense of other tissues.

Low magnesium can result in shortness of breath on exertion, which could be perceived as lack of fitness. It may be that diet and daily multi are not meeting requirements (e.g. due to competing nutrients in a multi, malabsorption in the GI tract, or general insuffciency).

Magnesium is a critical element in 325+ biochemical reactions in the human body.

Recent research, in France and several other European countries, gives a clue concerning the role of magnesium plays in the transmission of hormones (such as insulin, thyroid, estrogen, testosterone, DHEA, etc.), neurotransmitters (such as dopamine, catecholamines, serotonin, GABA, etc.), and minerals and mineral electrolytes.

This research concludes that it is magnesium status that controls cell membrane potential and through this means controls uptake and release of many hormones, nutrients and neurotransmitters. It is magnesium that controls the fate of potassium and calcium in the body. If magnesium is insufficient potassium and calcium will be lost in the urine and calcium will be deposited in the soft tissues (kidneys, arteries, joints, brain, etc.).

Formula to Calculate Magnesium Daily Requirement

5 to 10 milligrams per day per kilo of ideal body weight or 2.5 to 4.5 milligrams per day per pound of ideal body weight.

Example: 70 kilos or 150 pounds = 350 mg to 700 mg daily

remember not to use underground magnesium, it tends to be underdosed

[tomsammce]

Tip of the day:

A person can change their future by merely changing their attitude.

[PeterDolan]

Do you google this stuff or are you a modern day Confucius? Most of it is very good!

[tomsammce]

Do you google this stuff or are you a modern day Confucius? Most of it is very good!

Pete,

A great journalist never reveals his sources.

Quote of the day:

"Good artists copy, Great artists steal."

[tomsammce]

going chch this weekend. be good to catch up with some of the nzbb goons from down there, it seems chch is an nzbb hotspot.... hmm must be nothing else to do eh.. lol.

anyway will be good to have a some workouts at eastside barbell (the wanker free zone) and watch some of the east side open lifting comp. Big rookie making his 4th debut, should be a good few days.

Quote of the day:

"Experience is the child of thought, and thought is the child of action."

[Rookie]

going chch this weekend. be good to catch up with some of the nzbb goons from down there, it seems chch is an nzbb hotspot.... hmm must be nothing else to do eh.. lol.

anyway will be good to have a some workouts at eastside barbell (the wanker free zone) and watch some of the east side open lifting comp. Big rookie making his 4th debut, should be a good few days.

Quote of the day:

"Experience is the child of thought, and thought is the child of action."

Hahaha be good to see ya bro! 4th debut lmao!! Debut PLing comp ma bro! Don't put me off with huhuhu during my lifts!!

Rookie

[tomsammce]

going chch this weekend. be good to catch up with some of the nzbb goons from down there, it seems chch is an nzbb hotspot.... hmm must be nothing else to do eh.. lol.

anyway will be good to have a some workouts at eastside barbell (the wanker free zone) and watch some of the east side open lifting comp. Big rookie making his 4th debut, should be a good few days.

Quote of the day:

"Experience is the child of thought, and thought is the child of action."

Hahaha be good to see ya bro! 4th debut lmao!! Debut PLing comp ma bro! Don't put me off with huhuhu during my lifts!!

Rookie

aw yeyeye lol... what times this comp start and finish?

[Rookie]

Lifting starts at 11am and not sure the what the schedule will be like (divisions etc) and not sure what time it'll finish.. Def sure you'll catch one of my three lifts though

[tomsammce]

cool bro my planes get in at 1, i taxi str8 there. is the gym open to have a train so can train and watch at same time?

[Rookie]

Sounds good, don't think so mate- the fb page says there'll be limited use of the gym. Thought you were just gonna train on Monday? Watching and doing concentration curls could be an option

[Dr Squat]

Can't wait to have a protein shake with my mate.

[tomsammce]

Whos coming out on the town in chch saturday night to play up and get rowdy?? lol doc pick me up from the cells sunday 10am sharp.... lololol.

[Dr Squat]

Whos coming out on the town in chch saturday night to play up and get rowdy?? lol doc pick me up from the cells sunday 10am sharp.... lololol.

All good bro. I take it you think I am too old to go out on Sat night. LMAO.

[PeterDolan]

Doc, too big to get a MRI, too big to get through the club doors

[Dr Squat]

Doc, too big to get a MRI, too big to get through the club doors

Too old to stay out past 10, Pete. Those days are gone. Tom will have a better chance with the ladies if I stay away lol.

[tomsammce]

Doc, too big to get a MRI, too big to get through the club doors

LMFAO!!! we can oil doc up and push him thru the door.... WOW! lol

[Rookie]

Hahaha keen bro, should be a good one! Won't get into too much trouble huhuhu

[PeterDolan]

Doc, too big to get a MRI, too big to get through the club doors

LMFAO!!! we can oil doc up and push him thru the door.... WOW! lol

Haha that'd be a sight