Tennis elbow/elbow injuries (solutions)?

[Napier_Life]

The only thing that I have heard to help tennis elbow with consistant results is ART thearapy.

[nate225]

The only thing that I have heard to help tennis elbow with consistant results is ART thearapy.

A number of the EliteFTS guys recommend this, any links to qualified NZ practitioners?

[ThePman]

The only thing that I have heard to help tennis elbow with consistant results is ART thearapy.

A number of the EliteFTS guys recommend this, any links to qualified NZ practitioners?

So far as I can tell, there's not one here. I've been looking.

There's a guy we've been going to over in Sydney that does a great job of it, if you don't mind making the trip.

It's definitely worth it if you've got any soft tissue problems.

[catalinaa]

What sort injury would result from your hand or fingers going under somes feet ? would it make a difrence if they were bearfoot or in wellintov or rubber boots ? wold you recover or wold the damage be for ever?

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[cantygirl]

I developed my tennis elbow from continually slamming my elbow into the wall playing squash. I had physio, acupuncture which was so painful and then ended up with a strap just below the elbow during training. I found any lateral raises excrutiating. After putting up with it for over a year, I decided to wear my strap off and on during the day when not training as well. That was all that was needed, I have never had it back.

[justhell]

i have really bad tennis elbow in my left arm and it can stop my workouts dead and ache for hours. wondering if anyone is/has been in the same boat and what has remedied it.

doc suggested cortizone inj so may go down that road

yeep,i had tennis elbow for about 8mths,it was a major pain,went to doctor & he said id have it for 2 years!,i keept on doing every thing as i had,and keept on working out,then it just got better,i put it down to exersicing heaps & eventualy it got stronger? 8)

[undiscovered]

hay, iv'e had golfers elbow for 4 years.fukd all my training up had to stop training, and working. just had the surgery so hopfully that will help and i can get back into it.how is you'r elbow now?

[greyghost]

Had tennis elbow couple years back. Got Prolotherapy for it. Hasn't played up since.

In fact had Prolotherapy for a dodgy shoulder and forearm. Works wonders.

While you're getting your weekly jabs you work out as normal. Don't need time off.

Prolotherapy

A new approach to injury treatment

Prolotherapy is a very effective treatment for most injuries of the joints, tendons, and ligaments. The treatment involves injections of a glucose solution to the painful body site to activate the body’s own immune system, stimulating the healing process. The solution is a natural product so treatment is very safe and suitable for diabetics.

[genetic freek]

Had tennis elbow couple years back. Got Prolotherapy for it. Hasn't played up since.

In fact had Prolotherapy for a dodgy shoulder and forearm. Works wonders.

While you're getting your weekly jabs you work out as normal. Don't need time off.

Prolotherapy

A new approach to injury treatment

Prolotherapy is a very effective treatment for most injuries of the joints, tendons, and ligaments. The treatment involves injections of a glucose solution to the painful body site to activate the body’s own immune system, stimulating the healing process. The solution is a natural product so treatment is very safe and suitable for diabetics.

What sort of money you looking at?

[greyghost]

Managed to get mine on ACC but I think full price it was approx $45 - $55.

John Lyftogt at Active Health QE11 is the NZ guru on it. He's basically brought people back from the dead using it. Retired footy players with dodgy joints are being made mobile again.

He's done a few BBers in Chch. I would not hesitate recommending it to anyone.

He's normally booked 2 - 3 weeks in advance so if you get in there book spots each week for at least a month out to guarantee a spot.

[thatwaslight]

that sounds interesting, i havent been able to train properly for the last 3 months so im not sure if thats why it has disappeared but when i have trained i havent had an issue i think the time off has done it wonders

[arthriticknee]

As a physio I can back up a lot of the comments already. Both Tennis Elbow and Golfers Elbow respond well to eccentric exercise as do most forms of tendon pathology.

It is pretty simple to do the exercises yourself. I direct people to the video and written instructions for tennis elbow at:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Flexbar-The-Rub ... nnis-Elbow

and for Golfers Elbow:

http://www.flexbar.info/golfers-elbow.html

These are American sites so you will have to source the flexbar yourself but they are made by Theraband and I know their other products are sold in NZ so you can probably google for a distributor.

As a general rule, it is better to start treatment asap. the more you let it get established, the more stubborn it is to get rid of.

[steak]

Ive ha da bit of a break through with my elbows. I have been doing hi rep tricep pressdowns with a red band(75 per set and a couple of sets min)

these are light and high speed but strict and they burn like FU...a burning thing!

I have been doing these for 3 weeks now every second day an my pain would 1/2 what it was and some days there is none! I can now bench press more confidently and do direct tricep work although I still ver away from skullcrushers

just what i have found...not proven medicine!

[Elite121]

http://ericcressey.com/understanding-el ... al-anatomy

http://ericcressey.com/understanding-el ... -pathology

http://ericcressey.com/understanding-el ... nnis-elbow

Hope this helps a little.

[Chillicat]

Hmmm, I wondering if I might have a touch of tennis elbow at the moment. I don't recall banging my elbow recently, but over the last few weeks my right elbow has got increasingly sore for no apparent reason. The pain is on the outside, and the absolute centre of the pain seems to be on the elbow itself - when I press it it feels as though the bone is bruised (if that's possible) - but as I said, I don't recall banging it (and surely for something to hurt this much you'd remember!). Hurts mostly when I stretch it out.

Given that I don't remember physically injuring it, I guess it's either related to lifting or using the mouse at work (which some days I can spend all day doing) - so that fits with it being my right elbow. I haven't done a lot of weights work in the last couple of weeks since it's been coming on, and haven't done anything heavy in the last couple of months, so seems strange that it would be related to weights and happening now when I've been taking it easy - but maybe I'm just doing something wrong on one side? It's definitely reached a peak of pain in the last 2 days though - did some hammer curls with teeny tiny 5kg weights yesterday and it was excruciating.

So I might try the advice on here - get me some more fish oil, and perhaps some strapping, and see how it goes.

[lightscribe]

It's all a about the EZY bar. It dramatically takes the strain off your elbows. Before you consider stopping skull crushes, try them with the EZY bar. Try using the EZY for most exercises you do. Also, when doing rope an bar pushdowns, instead of leaning forward, thus incorporating elbow leverage. Stand back, have you back arched, and poke you chest out when doing these movements. You may have to go a little lighter, but this is only because the tri is more isolated.

[tomsammce]

It's all a about the EZY bar. It dramatically takes the strain off your elbows. Before you consider stopping skull crushes, try them with the EZY bar. Try using the EZY for most exercises you do. Also, when doing rope an bar pushdowns, instead of leaning forward, thus incorporating elbow leverage. Stand back, have you back arched, and poke you chest out when doing these movements. You may have to go a little lighter, but this is only because the tri is more isolated.

yeah ill agree with this. and i do it too.

[Andy2010]

Hey, yup ive got tennis and golfers, bicep curls and some back stuff sets it off, and it can be very painfull, too sore to train even, on the days im training arms and back ill take one low strength voltarin afterwards, then im fine by the morning, its the only thing that works for me.. Good Luck!

[Daz69]

Hi Fella.........

Not much fun is it..!!!

I've had trouble with mine since the 80's, & what ever I seem to do it keeps coming back....

I'm resigned to the fact that it aint gonna go away, so I have just to work round it.....

My training partner is a sports physio & this is what he advised, if I stick with it I manage to get by...

In Gym:

Extensive warm ups before each session....

Light eccentric forearm exercises combined with stretches....

Avoid exercises that give you the most pain.........

Avoid gripping hard...!!! (I rest, or balance the weight trying not to grip, or let it drop on my head)....

At Home:

Diclafenic

Rub across the painfull area hard'ish with finger or thumb.... (for 10 mins)

Ice pack for 20 mins (every 2 hours)...... (Then rub again)....

Your not going to like this one: Avoid training for at least 2 weeks..

Return using light weights, lots of warm ups, & stretches....

I've tried using Deca, which doesn't seem to make things much better...

Triger point therapy applied after each set does seem to eleviate the pain sufficiently so I can manage to the next......

Lowering my weights & doing more reps, works to reduce exercise pain, but not to increase strength.....

In the end it all comes down to not doing anything that will make it worse, which unfortunately means rest..............

:nod:

[Chillicat]

I'm finding that it's bicep exercises that are giving me the most trouble, which fortunately for me is my least problematic area, so I'm fine with going easy on biceps for a while. I'm away on holiday in about 8 weeks or so for a month, so I'm going to keep working out til then (and favouring the sore arm), but will have complete rest for a whole month, so hopefully that will make things better.

Bought fish oil yesterday and ibuprofen, which is definitely helping.

[LUCAS]

My dad had it rerally badnot too long ago from working (he's a dieselmechanic) and all he did was strap it with that brown strapping tape so that the forearm muscle was pulledaway from the body. Seemed to work but im not an expert.

[Chemo]

Had tennis elbow couple years back. Got Prolotherapy for it. Hasn't played up since.

In fact had Prolotherapy for a dodgy shoulder and forearm. Works wonders.

While you're getting your weekly jabs you work out as normal. Don't need time off.

Prolotherapy

A new approach to injury treatment

Prolotherapy is a very effective treatment for most injuries of the joints, tendons, and ligaments. The treatment involves injections of a glucose solution to the painful body site to activate the body’s own immune system, stimulating the healing process. The solution is a natural product so treatment is very safe and suitable for diabetics.

Yeah I've had my own blood injected into my patella tendon, worked initially but i think I over worked it again. I'd totally advise to rest it for a while, I think my efforts to push through my injuries have made it worse. Chronic over-training?

Ibuprofen and fish oil have been handy, also stretching regularly.

There are still exercises you can do, I do box squats/leg press instead of full squats. Perhaps you could still do your usual routine without the full ROM, and then run through low or no weight full ROM to warm up/cool down.

I might ask my doc about the glucose inj, very interesting.