I have no idea what's going on anymore.

[ThePman]

The funny thing is, even 6 months ago I'd have said that was bullshit. I've had to totally reconsider a lot of things that I'd taken for granted before. It's a good thing that I like when that happens.

[Phedder]

So, uh. Yeah. Overtraining. Woo.

There is no such thing as overtraining. There is just trained and untrained - John Broz

Also, 'There is no such thing as overtraining, just under eating and under sleeping.'

Making great progress Pman, we're all hoping it keeps up. :clap:

[ThePman]

NOt a lot new, the last couple of weeks were hit and miss so I took off the last week completely to rest and refresh.

Went up to Coast today and still managed a high-bar squat PR (170kg, no-no-no) without getting too worked up, then did some hook-grip DLs with 180 + some chains, then a couple on a platform w/ only the bar weight. Nice motivation after a week off, and it's back to the Bulgarian grind come Monday.

[steak]

Good to see you mate :nod: and thanks for your help..insightful as always 8)

Stay strong!

[ThePman]

I did an interview that might have some things of interest in it:

http://bretcontreras.wordpress.com/2010 ... -perryman/

[startinfromscratch]

long, but good read bro.

[Jigga]

Well worth reading. Gave me a lot of ideas. Cheers Pman.

[ThePman]

I've been feeling weird all week. Not sick, but warm all over like I'm feverish. No other symptoms, except it has made me pretty lethargic. I lifted yesterday (mediocre but not bad session) and tonight which was okay (front squat 120 & 125, 100 3x3 and push press up to 85, 65 3x3 backoffs), but I really need to get back into the swing of it.

DLs tomorrow.

[TonganTerror]

excellent read pman I was planning a light session tomorrow but your read just inspired me to a squat session instead so yeah ha!!!

You have some awesome advice across the boards and it is good to get an insight into where your knowledge and motivation comes from

p.s Thank your wife for us for dragging you back here :pfft: !!!!!!!

[steak]

I've been feeling weird all week. Not sick, but warm all over like I'm feverish.

I know of this You have "squatters flu" bro :grin:

[ThePman]

excellent read pman I was planning a light session tomorrow but your read just inspired me to a squat session instead so yeah ha!!!

You have some awesome advice across the boards and it is good to get an insight into where your knowledge and motivation comes from

p.s Thank your wife for us for dragging you back here :pfft: !!!!!!!

Everybody's catching the squat fever :grin:

Cheers for the words, and that's some nice lifting you've been doing.

I know of this You have "squatters flu" bro :grin:

Yeah, that's about what I thought too. I just figured it would have kicked in at some point during the eight weeks of daily squatting, instead of during the rest break

Fine line between training and recovery, I guess. Nothing more pills can't fix

[ThePman]

Did my DL workout just a bit ago:

Deficit DL, up to 180 3x3. First two sets hooked, thumbs got beat to hell so I switched to mixed grip on the last.

Chins, +20 3x3

Shrugs, 100x15, 140x8, 180x5 (ugly)

This starts my John Kuc-inspired linear cycle, 3x3 adding 5kg each week until it gets hard, then dropping back to two sets, and then going until I hit a new 3RM. After that I'll either start over from the floor or test a 1RM and start over. It's going to depend on what happens.

Squat flu feels a bit better, nothing a big dose of ginger and ibuprofen won't fix anyway.

[TonganTerror]

so deficit deads are normal deads but your feet are on a raised platform is that correct if so what kind of height are the blocks 25mm???

[ThePman]

so deficit deads are normal deads but your feet are on a raised platform is that correct if so what kind of height are the blocks 25mm???

Yeah, you just stand on a block that brings your feet closer to the bar. I'm using a pretty thick 25kg bumper, which is somewhere between 2" and 3" thick. You don't want to make it too high (some guys swear by that, but I don't like it much), just enough to make the pull a little longer.

[TonganTerror]

I like the sound of this a lot it means I will get a heavier/harder pull using less weight hmmm next weeks deads will be deficits awesome!!!

[rimma]

Hey Pman what's up.

Your blog has been suspiciously quiet lately, are you working on a master plan to revolutionise the fitness industry?

[steak]

MM2 could be in the wings :grin:

[ThePman]

Just in a lazy spell at the moment. It comes and goes with me.

[ThePman]

Training for this week:

Mon

Squats up to 140, 150

Box squats 130 for 3 singles, 140 for 3 singles

Bench up to 110, 115, 95 for 4 doubles

Tues

Couldn't be bothered.

Weds

Front SQ up to 120, 125, then to pins 100 for 3 singles, 105 for 3 singles

Push Press, up to 80, 85, 70 for 3 singles, 60 for 2 triples (strict)

DB OHP & pushdowns for a few high-rep sets

Thurs

Chins, +15 3x5, +20 for 3 singles

Bicep stuff

Fri

Squat up to 150, 160, 170, then 140 for 3 singles

Bench up to 115, 120, 125 for singles

Knee is feeling better, to where I'm not quite so worried about it blowing out again. Still no hurry to get back over four plates on the regular, though. Strength is there, confidence is not just yet. It is nice to know that I could hit 180+ in street clothes again.

Caught the shoulder on a cooperative night tonight. The 125 wouldn't have gotten three whites, but any kind of shirtless pause kills the shoulders so touch 'n go will have to be the rule in training.

[ThePman]

Monday

Squat, singles up to 150, box squats 140 for 5 singles

Bench, singles up to 110, 100 for 4 singles, 60 3x10

Weds

Front SQ, singles up to 120, 100 for 5 singles

Push Press, singles up to 85, 70 for 5 singles

Friday

Squat, singles up to 170, 140 for 8 singles

Close-grip Bench, singles up to 115, 90 for 6 doubles

Pretty bleh week. I battled an achy shoulder up til Thursday and the knee's been feeling a bit unstable, which could be in my head.

[Big john]

abit of squating indeed boss, 3 days a week...ripper

[ThePman]

I know, I've cut back from the five days I was doing.

[ohjoshua]

Hey Pman,

Good to see you enjoying the benefits of high frequency.

I always thought of some sort feed back/autoregulation in a training program.

I was always concerned about how taxing the testing aspect would be.

[ThePman]

So I've been entirely de-motivated about everything the last month. I feel a little of it coming back now, so I need a goal to keep me on track. This is not a "cut" or even an exceptional diet, but the goals are:

1. Clean the diet up. I've been hitting the cheeseburgers a little more than is acceptable. The good news is I haven't really re-fatted myself to where I was last year, but I haven't made any real progress on prettyfication either.

2. Get back in the swing of doing conditioning work. I'd gotten really good at this for awhile, then totally fell off the wagon.

On top of that I'm doing a little soul-searching about what I want to do with myself. I flirted with the idea of getting semi-competitive in PL and maybe SM as of this time last year, and I told myself I'd see what happened in 2010. Injuries and injury scares sidelined my squat and bench most of the year, the momentum I had on the deadlift stalled out, and as I expected, I just lost interest in trying to be competitive. I'm not about to try strongman with the way my body has of exploding at inopportune moments. With only 2.5 months left in the year, I'm pretty convinced that's it for me in any real competitive sense.

What I want now is to go back to that strength + GPP training approach I was doing up until last September. Competitive or not, I can't ever see myself dropping heavy strength training as a foundation. But I want to be a little more diverse. Also it's kinda funny that looking back at my logs, I was getting stronger doing the low-volume strength + cardio/GPP routine (on a PSMF style diet at that) than I was doing a specific PL routine. So, uh. Yeah.

The other piece of the puzzle is that I've got some new thoughts and ideas to explore with this high-frequency approach I've been mucking around with over the last 5-6 months. The bottom line is that I got within a few percentage points of my all-time best lifts while squatting and pressing to a max five days a week. While weighing 10kg less. And not feeling like a quad or shoulder was about to blow out. "Intensity" training just doesn't agree with me next to high volume/frequency.

I don't look at overtraining and recovery the same way I used to, so I'm interested to see what I can do with that mindset applied to a general strength + endurance type routine and a decent diet.

[Viking Power]

welcome back P Man 8)

Stay strong mate

VP