IronGame Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Does anyone else know much about this show?From what I have heard it will be an amature show run alongside a Pro show piggy backing off Tony D's Melbourn Pro ( which I believe is being moved to a different state because the Melbourn Grand Prix is on the same weekend? ) The amature show will be run as a normal NZFBB show and all the winners of each class will go in to an elite show ( same weekend ) where the guy's can earn prize money ( unfortunatly it seams the IFBB wont sanction prize money for the girls )Note: this is all just from what I have heard through the grape vine so who knows what will actually happen lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronGame Posted September 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Ops ment to post this in the Competitors corner, anyone know how to move it? Mods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoan_muscle Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Does anyone else know much about this show?From what I have heard it will be an amature show run alongside a Pro show piggy backing off Tony D's Melbourn Pro ( which I believe is being moved to a different state because the Melbourn Grand Prix is on the same weekend? ) The amature show will be run as a normal NZFBB show and all the winners of each class will go in to an elite show ( same weekend ) where the guy's can earn prize money ( unfortunatly it seams the IFBB wont sanction prize money for the girls )Note: this is all just from what I have heard through the grape vine so who knows what will actually happen lolHeard mark stewart mention something about it at the Sonny, but I dont' really know jackshit about it to be honest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 how come there will be no testing at the elite show? it is an nzfbb show isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterTel Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 how come there will be no testing at the elite show? it is an nzfbb show isnt it?No, it's not an NZFBB show - it is being run under a totally separate new regime called IFBB NZEPBB (NZ Elite Pro Body Building). The plan is to run the first event in NZ a week after the Australian Grand Prix i.e. on March 8 (Aussie) and March 15 (NZ). The plan is to run a regional style event in the morning, with most regular classes on offer. All male physique class winners will then be eligible to join those specially invited to form an Elite class lineup later in the day, with $10,000 prize money to be split between the top 15 places - $3,100 for 1st, down to $100 for 15th. There is also a Pro class to be included in this event somewhere - depending on who gets signed up. A lot of the detail needs to be sorted out - I'll provide more info as it becomes available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronGame Posted September 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 So there will be no testing in any parts of that show?I think that would be a real step forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED_AISH Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 So there will be no testing in any parts of that show? I think that would be a real step forwardI know it is not view shared by many on here but I think a real step forward would be finding a way to prevent drug use all together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 From a spectacle point of view if it can work it will satisfy a good portion of the population. I guess we are at the point of having something to cater for all walks of bodybuilding life. Will be a good watch if it gets going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUSCLEROIDS Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 MasterTel Re: this new IFBB-NZEPBB plan for next year is it going to be a show where they are going to have normal regional style class.If so will it be drug tested????Will the Elite class be limited to 15 competitors like in Aus this year???Also is it true the any IFBB Pro can’t do it unless they give up there pro card as that’s what Neil Gardiner did in AUS this year.Also you said about a pro class to be included in this event, if so is the new IFBB-NZEPBB talking to Tony D in AUS to see who he is signing up for next year.Is this new show open to NABBA boy???If they get to many men how will they decide who gets in the Elite class??? Can the new IFBB-NZEPBB let us competitors know ASAP so we can start dieting for this new venture.One more thing that’s puzzling me is I see on Joe Stewarts web site that she’s going to be guest posing at the CNI and than of to the IFBB Masters Worlds this year. If I am not right did she take her self of the drug testing pool this year if yes how can she do all this when you have to be in the drug testing pool????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 so if someone wins prize money does this mean they cannot compete as an ametuer for nabba or the nzfbb anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 So there will be no testing in any parts of that show? I think that would be a real step forwardI know it is not view shared by many on here but I think a real step forward would be finding a way to prevent drug use all together!Get Real,The sport not about nice athletic bodys.Its about muscle and lots of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronGame Posted September 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 so if someone wins prize money does this mean they cannot compete as an ametuer for nabba or the nzfbb anymore?As far as I know this is not the case, I believe you will still be able to compete in NABBA or NZFBB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterTel Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Gosh, Muscleroids - so many questions! OK, I'll answer them as best I can:Re: this new IFBB-NZEPBB plan for next year is it going to be a show where they are going to have normal regional style class. Yes, the plan is to have most regular regional classes available, with some "combinations" e.g. one class each for Novice Men, Novice Women, Novice Figure, Masters Men, Masters Women, Senior Figure, Junior Men. Open classes will have the usual splits as per our regional events. If so will it be drug tested???? I can't see any reference to this in the document I have, but I would assume there won't be any testing. Will the Elite class be limited to 15 competitors like in Aus this year??? There is a reference to a minimum of 10 competitors for this class, not a maximum.Also is it true the any IFBB Pro can’t do it unless they give up there pro card as that’s what Neil Gardiner did in AUS this year. Correct!Also you said about a pro class to be included in this event, if so is the new IFBB-NZEPBB talking to Tony D in AUS to see who he is signing up for next year. Yes, it seems that these two shows will have a lot of co-operation involved. I believe an attempt will be made to sign up as many pros for both events during the early season pro shows in the USA. Is this new show open to NABBA boy??? Top competitors from other organisations can certainly apply to compete.If they get to many men how will they decide who gets in the Elite class??? Again, I don't see a reference to a max number of competitors, so this may not be an issue.Can the new IFBB-NZEPBB let us competitors know ASAP so we can start dieting for this new venture. Perhaps you should contact Mark or Moe direct to get first-hand answers and advice.One more thing that’s puzzling me is I see on Joe Stewarts web site that she’s going to be guest posing at the CNI and than of to the IFBB Masters Worlds this year. If I am not right did she take her self of the drug testing pool this year if yes how can she do all this when you have to be in the drug testing pool????? A guest poser does not have to be in the drug testing pool, plus Jo made her application to compete in this years World Masters Champs, and had it approved by the Exec, some time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterTel Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 so if someone wins prize money does this mean they cannot compete as an ametuer for nabba or the nzfbb anymore?The document says "Each competitor intending to participate in the NZ/Australasian Elite tour may also participate in all NZFBB amateur event". So that clearly says you can compete in these new events, plus continue to compete in NZFBB events. I'm not sure how that affects NABBA participation though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 As far as I know this is not the case, I believe you will still be able to compete in NABBA or NZFBBso wats different about his to when Moe was talking bout his own show before that got cancelled?im talking bout the ametuer winning prize money issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 The document says "Each competitor intending to participate in the NZ/Australasian Elite tour may also participate in all NZFBB amateur event". So that clearly says you can compete in these new events, plus continue to compete in NZFBB events. I'm not sure how that affects NABBA participation though. :? who makes these rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUSCLEROIDS Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 Master TelThats not the way the IFBB do things. The way I read it, it is that all competitors that are doing any IFBB International events need to take there drug testing papers with them to the event. So now I ask why his Phil K been told if he does the IFBB Worlds he needs to do the Nats and get drug tested before he goes overseas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 hmmm... if only the were no mods or admin on this site... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delpreet Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 So there will be no testing in any parts of that show? I think that would be a real step forwardI know it is not view shared by many on here but I think a real step forward would be finding a way to prevent drug use all together!Get Real,The sport not about nice athletic bodys.Its about muscle and lots of itlol.... i agree.... :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED_AISH Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 I understand where you guys are comming from - but just because some people want to see a certain build on stage dosnt mean that doing drugs are the right thing to do.I plan on getting Big Naturally and truly believe I can do so.What does bug me is when Guys do the hard yards and get BIG naturally then still get a hard time trying to get to the international stage so I can see benefits of easing the testing but only because they don't have the means to do it properly.I also think that just as may people as those that don't come to watch because the guys arn't big enough would come if they thought the sport was more above board, the perception of a good percent of the the public is that BB is all about guys pumping themselves full of drugs, so they are not interested in getting involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 So there will be no testing in any parts of that show? I think that would be a real step forwardI know it is not view shared by many on here but I think a real step forward would be finding a way to prevent drug use all together!Get Real,The sport not about nice athletic bodys.Its about muscle and lots of itThe sport is about what you make of it. Each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbelldog Posted September 18, 2007 Report Share Posted September 18, 2007 ED_AISH wrote:Quote:So there will be no testing in any parts of that show? I think that would be a real step forwardI know it is not view shared by many on here but I think a real step forward would be finding a way to prevent drug use all together
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