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whoooohooooo that was a fun weekend :dancing: ..thanks guys and well done to all the other competitors for getting up there and cograts to all the winners :D

I can't believe there were so few competitors!!

I'm gonna chuck it out there:

This is a dying sport...

Yea the numbers weren’t that high but it was up on last year (18 vs 24) but I’ve got to say it was a real shame there wasn’t more physique guys there!!!

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That's an ideal way to prepare for the Pro-Am in two weeks time, isn't it?

Absolutely and I’m looking forward to doing the pro-am… having to step it up that next level is going to be a good challenge

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I can't believe there were so few competitors!!

I'm gonna chuck it out there:

This is a dying sport...

I agree with poos_n_wees that shows at this time of year tend to be much smaller than those later in the year. Andrew is also correct to point out there more competitors at this event that the 2006 equivalent, although there were actually 22 competitors last year (vs 24 this year).

The NZFBB Auckland Champs at the end of June had 62 competitors (almost double last years total), so it always best to wait until the end of the year and compare overall event totals before considering if numbers are dropping.

One interesting trend I have seen in recent years is the increasing number of competitors in their 40s (like myself) and 50s competing.

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I can't believe there were so few competitors!!

I'm gonna chuck it out there:

This is a dying sport... :(

Do you think it's a dying sport, or a dying organisation? I was having this conversation with someone on Saturday (so I don't think they'd have known the numbers for the NABBA comp then). His opinion was that the NZFBB's move to include a Athletic/Classic physique class was really the beginning of the end for NABBA.

What do you guys think? The new NZFBB class puts the squeeze on NABBA, certainly, but was he over-stating the case to say NABBA's days are numbered?

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a few of andrew and matt thismorning pre judging. didnt have to much time to figure out the camera its the inlaws, some pics turned out very dark, strangly the ones of the ladies turned out alot clearer :pfft: must be the coloured costumes?

Thanks for those photos - somehow I'd missed them up till now! They're nice and sharp, too. (As, of course, are the competitors!)

I tried lightening a few of the darker ones...

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His opinion was that the NZFBB's move to include a Athletic/Classic physique class was really the beginning of the end for NABBA.

The new NZFBB Classic class has had no impact on competitor numbers (yet) - in our two event so far we have had just one Classic competitor (Wellington show). I do think this new class is a great idea, but it may take a while to catch on. At least the competitors have a bit more choice now.

Competitor numbers do seem a little bit lower at NABBA events this year and higher with NZFBB events. One main reason is probably that the NZFBB have fewer shows now (one less than last year and two less that 2005) so each show is likely to get bigger numbers. Plus NABBA have at least 2-3 more shows than the NZFBB and many of these are in smaller cities and towns where local competitor numbers are bound to be lower.

The big test on numbers will be at the "business end" of the competitive year during Sept and Oct - especially Nationals where both organisations tend to get between 100 and 140 competitors.

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The big test on numbers will be at the "business end" of the competitive year during Sept and Oct - especially Nationals where both organisations tend to get between 100 and 140 competitors

if nzfbb drops the testing they will have alot more numbers, which would mean more money ??

and nabba should hold their natioanals in same place every year

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if nzfbb drops the testing they will have alot more numbers, which would mean more money ??

and nabba should hold their natioanals in same place every year

firstly congrats to NABBA on moving their Nats around, I wouldn't know whether that has an impact on business for them, but it must spread the word of bodybuilding, and surely the smaller centres must embrace the event? Perhaps ILIFT of Palmy might know what the local attitude was like last year, did the city support the influx of tanned angry muscle freaks?

As to the drug testing, sure dropping it will save the NZFBB money in not having to pay or the tests now.....but whether majority of competitors would like to be involved in the federation if the testing was dropped would have to be seen in consultation of ALL the competitors who'd bother to communicate to their local Committee member, and would surely have a cross over that NABBA should be stronger because they don't test?

And, again I defer to MT on this as I have before, that the majority of our competitors and their families who come in support are Figure, fitness, masters etc and not hardcore bodybuilding fans like most of us on this site and are likely in favour of the testing.

I think the idea put forward by MT and Muscleroids earlier on another topic of removing the testing from certain classes is the best compromize to move the federation forward, IMO the proposed Elite category which I would like to see introduced would be best run as a non tested class, and should still require qualifiaction throught the tested open ranks would appease most parties, as a natural open winner who does not want to compete agains non tested athletes would be free to remain in the open category.

I'm gonna chuck it out there:

This is a dying sport... :(

In 1990 the North Islands were held in the Aotea centre in Auckland and made over $20k profit with about 90 competitors, including flying up a team from the Sth Island. Our competitor numbers are still stong and in the past couple of years are slowly growing....whether the way we present the sport is where it is struggling. I've said it before, we are presenting an ealy 80's format in the new millenium, even cricket is changing with the 20-20 version of the game.

Perhaps the Elite class will be the impeutus to relaunch the sport, make the entertainment factor of the show very high, competitors making grand entrances, great lighting, 2minute routines, costumes....hell even backing performers if they want?

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but whether majority of competitors would like to be involved in the federation if the testing was dropped would have to be seen in consultation of ALL the competitors who'd bother to communicate to their local Committee member,

lol, wat other federation would the 'naturals' flock to if the nzfbb dropped testing... but i see your point

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Here’s something that may be a little interesting about the show in the weekend ..It was a NBBA show and I’d in my own personal opinion say that everyone there was drug free…which is interesting considering that everyone seems to think that NABBA is all about guys on gear and NZFBB is clean..if anything from what I’ve seem so far this year there’s has been very little difference between the to federations :think:

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Notice in the Hawkes Bay show the lowest placing in any class was third? I.E. the largest group in any class was 3... Effectively that means no matter what shape you are in, you qualify for the Nationals..

I know I'm labouring the issue a little here but NABBA needs to find a way to increase the participation and also to find a way to somehow ensure only the best shape competitors walk in stage come Nationals time. Double edged sword, I know..

I remember my first comp was BOP as athletic novice and there were 3 rows of competitors on stage in the class.. I may not be comparing apples with apples but I dont see the numbers these days..

Does NABBA need fewer shows, increased marketing or what??

Thanks, I feel a lot better now... :)

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The same things happens and is happening in NZFBB ..in fact the NZFBB is allowing all competitors to qualify of the nationals as long as they are deemed to be up to standard ie if there’s 5 in a class all 5 qualify for the nationals if they are up to standard

I don’t think it’s fair to say NABBA are going down the toilet, In the past both NABBA & NZFBB have had there good years and there bad years.

I don’t think NABBA need fewer show’s IMO the regional show’s are a good chance for people to take that first step into the sport weather it be competing or watching but I do think there need’s to be better marketing/promotion/sponsorship of these show’s at a local level well in advance of the show.

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