Beaten Paths are For Beaten Men

[Viking Power]

Hi OB

You have a strong mind OB and the no bull shit approach you take impresses me , this is bound to happen to us all at some point I know you'll good for those lifts there's no doubt, to much going on does make it hard to focus on your lifts, those late night set ups and moving all the gear around takes its toll.

I am impress you dropped all that weight to make weigh in though :clap: as you said it was a mind thing that's all brother you'll be sweet as no issues just in the mind remove it next time mate.

Train hard brother and maybe I'll get to see you in June as a spectator at the house.

Well done on the deads - Hook Grip :pfft: records or not keep that grip style brother :pfft: :clap:

VP

[Big john]

You have a strong mind OB and the no bull shit approach you take impresses me , this is bound to happen to us all at some point I know you'll good for those lifts there's no doubt

VP couldnt have put it better. i rekon youll come back and thrash those lifts nxt time OB :nod:

[Old Bull]

Hi OB

You have a strong mind OB and the no bull shit approach you take impresses me , this is bound to happen to us all at some point I know you'll good for those lifts there's no doubt, to much going on does make it hard to focus on your lifts, those late night set ups and moving all the gear around takes its toll.

You are only fooling yourself in this game with an ego, failure is going to happen at some stage, missed lifts are always around the corner, totals never achieved one has to be humble and honest other wise you will not last and PL is time thing. Too many want the big totals quickly get burnt out last 2 years or so.

I usually do the CDs low key and Raw, that way I can keep an eye on those that I coach and make sure things run smooth plus the setup does not take its toll as much.

Hi OB

I am impress you dropped all that weight to make weigh in though :clap: as you said it was a mind thing that's all brother you'll be sweet as no issues just in the mind remove it next time mate.

The weight well that should have been under control early. This cycle I am getting down to 96-97 train at that weight and put on a couple of kilos in the last week leading up to comp day.

Train hard brother and maybe I'll get to see you in June as a spectator at the house.

Well done on the deads - Hook Grip :pfft: records or not keep that grip style brother :pfft: :clap:

VP

That would be good to see you in The House, and the Hook Grip well it did not fail and I think Sumo is for me, I have a brand new Sumo Velocity which I will use into the Nationals that should be enough time to get it working.

You have a strong mind OB and the no bull shit approach you take impresses me , this is bound to happen to us all at some point I know you'll good for those lifts there's no doubt

VP couldnt have put it better. i rekon youll come back and thrash those lifts nxt time OB :nod:

Thanks Big John,

You hit it on the head, SFW

[rose]

SFW

Hey OB, it was good to watch you, you did well. IMO there's no such thing as bombing. Only feedback, results. But I think you know that already...

The plan has started and the adjustments will be made.

I miss training at The House, such a great set up

[nate225]

As always you choose to bomb at the right time Old 'Wise' Bull!

No doubt you'll have the weight loss minimised (I'm sensing deja vu here bro!) by the time the Nationals roll around!

I learnt something last year from our friend Mr Rossiter, he said he was winning SM comps until he started competing in ones he was running, when he started getting fourths etc! I took this on board and vowed never to compete again in a comp I was running. I think Dale learnt this on the weekend too! May be something to consider? If you host CDPA (as it looks likely going forward), watch and administer the comp. Go qualify at WBOP or APA's??? Just a thought?

Anyway I'll be down tomorrow - train around 6pm if there's anyone around?

[Old Bull]

SFW

Hey OB, it was good to watch you, you did well. IMO there's no such thing as bombing. Only feedback, results. But I think you know that already...

Cheers R, feedback is what makes us all better lifters.

As always you choose to bomb at the right time Old 'Wise' Bull!

No doubt you'll have the weight loss minimised (I'm sensing deja vu here bro!) by the time the Nationals roll around!

I learnt something last year from our friend Mr Rossiter, he said he was winning SM comps until he started competing in ones he was running, when he started getting fourths etc! I took this on board and vowed never to compete again in a comp I was running. I think Dale learnt this on the weekend too! May be something to consider? If you host CDPA (as it looks likely going forward), watch and administer the comp. Go qualify at WBOP or APA's??? Just a thought?

Anyway I'll be down tomorrow - train around 6pm if there's anyone around?

Yeah Nate seems to be a habit at the CDs :doh:, I have made the same decision will not compete at any comps I run Cds BBro unless it is away from The House but that will be a while yet.

It seems like you can do it, but the mind is else where, you cannot rest can't prepare and you do not make the right decisions or adjustment during the comp when things start to go pear shaped. I like that idea of Qualifying at WBOP that would cool, comping with Tonka, Pit Bull and the others.

Good post nate :clap:

[Viking Power]

hey brother are you having a rest week this week?

[Old Bull]

hey brother are you having a rest week this week?

Tomorrow some Deads and Light Bench been 20 weeks so just been doing foam rolling rehab stuff. Getting ready for the onslaught to the Nationals sorting out what I need to focus on.

[steak]

hey brother are you having a rest week this week?

Tomorrow some Deads and Light Bench been 20 weeks so just been doing foam rolling rehab stuff. Getting ready for the onslaught to the Nationals sorting out what I need to focus on.

a well deserved deload bro :clap:

[Viking Power]

hey brother are you having a rest week this week?

Tomorrow some Deads and Light Bench been 20 weeks so just been doing foam rolling rehab stuff. Getting ready for the onslaught to the Nationals sorting out what I need to focus on.

Good stuff Captain OB,

go hard hard mate, :clap: keen on watching those deadlifts with your new suit to mate, OB being chatting with a few people they say the carry over is only 10kg is this correct to do you think? doesn't seem like much aye.

VP

[Old Bull]

Oiling The Old Cogs

D,B,

Deadlift Sumo

3 x 70kgs

3 x 105kgs

3 x 125kgs

3 x 145kgs x 2 Sets

Bench Press

5 x 20kgs

4 x 45kgs

3 x 65kgs

3 x 77.5kgs

3 x 92.5kgs x 3 Sets

DB Flies

10 x 25lbs x 2 Sets

Notes:

I was planning on having a week off but started to stiffen up the other day, just doing rehab/stretching. Nothing to heavy just get some oil in the joints so to speak.

Товарищ OB

[ohjoshua]

couldnt help yourself could you?

[Old Bull]

a well deserved deload bro :clap:

Yeak Steak nice too just itchy doing nothing.

Good stuff Captain OB,

go hard hard mate, :clap: keen on watching those deadlifts with your new suit to mate, OB being chatting with a few people they say the carry over is only 10kg is this correct to do you think? doesn't seem like much aye.

VP

I think it depends on the lifter and style , SS pulled 240, then with his Velocity pulled 255 just missed 262.5 so you could say 20+. A lot don't get much out of their suits I think because they do no know how to manipulate the suit properly. Bench Shirts some get 15-20 others can jack and get 35+ but they work their shirts a lot better than most. Deads is interesting top lifters get good gains same thing, for me if I can work the V properly and enough time then may be a decent increase could be in the pipeline. The amount you pay you would expect a bit more than 10kgs.

[Viking Power]

The amount you pay you would expect a bit more than 10kgs.

:pfft: true mate... thanks OB yeah I would hope for 20+kg otherwise I'll be a bit disappointed and would try to find a way to get more out of it that's what they are supposed to be designed for other wise not worth wearing one.

Cheers brother.

[SoaringSwine]

My 2c on deadlift suits...

Firstly, I think I got jack all out of mine this comp. I pulled 205 for a triple leading up to my 240kg, and I pulled 227.5 raw leading up to my 255 suited. So I got little at all out of the suit. But last year I was getting about 15kg out of one. Basically, I think I just got a lot stronger off the ground over the last year (my major weakness) and hadn't done any lockout work (no need).

However, now that I have the new suit, I'm getting HEAPS of pop off the floor (even 262 came up to the knees fast). So now I just have to hit my lockout harder and I should be back to getting ~15kg out of the suit again.

Deadlift suits are a lot more variable than squat suits or bench shirts... Some guys' off the floor strength is similar to their lockout strength and thus get very little out of their suits. Obviously, the guys with weaker off the floor strength benefit more. Another factor is how much it messes with your setup. There are a number of guys who feel stronger with suits, but can't express the additional strength due to the tightness of the suit when setting up, throwing them out of position.

And last, but certainly not least... Sumo vs conventional. Most guys pull less sumo than they can conventional, but can pull more in a suit sumo than conventional (e.g. Mike Zero). Sumo is more suited to geared lifting as you are able to effectively load the suit more, and the ROM is much less.

The end.

[Viking Power]

My 2c on deadlift suits...

Firstly, I think I got jack all out of mine this comp. I pulled 205 for a triple leading up to my 240kg, and I pulled 227.5 raw leading up to my 255 suited. So I got little at all out of the suit. But last year I was getting about 15kg out of one. Basically, I think I just got a lot stronger off the ground over the last year (my major weakness) and hadn't done any lockout work (no need).

However, now that I have the new suit, I'm getting HEAPS of pop off the floor (even 262 came up to the knees fast). So now I just have to hit my lockout harder and I should be back to getting ~15kg out of the suit again.

Deadlift suits are a lot more variable than squat suits or bench shirts... Some guys' off the floor strength is similar to their lockout strength and thus get very little out of their suits. Obviously, the guys with weaker off the floor strength benefit more. Another factor is how much it messes with your setup. There are a number of guys who feel stronger with suits, but can't express the additional strength due to the tightness of the suit when setting up, throwing them out of position.

And last, but certainly not least... Sumo vs conventional. Most guys pull less sumo than they can conventional, but can pull more in a suit sumo than conventional (e.g. Mike Zero). Sumo is more suited to geared lifting as you are able to effectively load the suit more, and the ROM is much less.

The end.

Good stuff SS

What does the term Jack mean?

So if I was to read into this a little more you would concentrate more on lock out deadlifts making them stronger rather than your deadlifts to knees (off the floor)so when suit comes on bingo off the floor it comes and wham lock out is there?

Makes cents I guess I'll wait to the end of this year before I start testing out ideas - just see what the gear can do first and work with it from there thanks for input brother.

[SoaringSwine]

My 2c on deadlift suits...

Firstly, I think I got jack all out of mine this comp. I pulled 205 for a triple leading up to my 240kg, and I pulled 227.5 raw leading up to my 255 suited. So I got little at all out of the suit. But last year I was getting about 15kg out of one. Basically, I think I just got a lot stronger off the ground over the last year (my major weakness) and hadn't done any lockout work (no need).

However, now that I have the new suit, I'm getting HEAPS of pop off the floor (even 262 came up to the knees fast). So now I just have to hit my lockout harder and I should be back to getting ~15kg out of the suit again.

Deadlift suits are a lot more variable than squat suits or bench shirts... Some guys' off the floor strength is similar to their lockout strength and thus get very little out of their suits. Obviously, the guys with weaker off the floor strength benefit more. Another factor is how much it messes with your setup. There are a number of guys who feel stronger with suits, but can't express the additional strength due to the tightness of the suit when setting up, throwing them out of position.

And last, but certainly not least... Sumo vs conventional. Most guys pull less sumo than they can conventional, but can pull more in a suit sumo than conventional (e.g. Mike Zero). Sumo is more suited to geared lifting as you are able to effectively load the suit more, and the ROM is much less.

The end.

Good stuff SS

What does the term Jack mean?

So if I was to read into this a little more you would concentrate more on lock out deadlifts making them stronger rather than your deadlifts to knees (off the floor)so when suit comes on bingo off the floor it comes and wham lock out is there?

Makes cents I guess I'll wait to the end of this year before I start testing out ideas - just see what the gear can do first and work with it from there thanks for input brother.

How I used jack? Jack all = nothing.

I will be concentrating more on lockout this cycle, but not neglecting off the floor completely. The basic Sheiko cycles are designed to be well rounded, to keep those things in balance. But obviously one programme won't fit everyone perfectly. The top Russian (and Kazakhstani) lifters had Sheiko customise programmes for their needs. That may have include more or less lockout work.

[Old Bull]

Oiling The Cogs

S,B

Squats

5 x 20kgs

5 x 60kgs

4 x 80kgs

3 x 105kgs

3 x 125kgs x 2 Sets (B)

3 x 135kgs x 3 Sets (B)

3 Board Bench Press

3 x 80kgs

3 x 95kgs

3 x 110kgs x 3 Sets

Dumbbell Flies

10 x 25lb x 3 Sets

Notes:

The same again today as yesterday just something light to oil the gears. Talking to the Coach at the moment on what I need to work on, maybe a conditioning week or two before we grind into things.

Weekly Analysis:

Good week to reflect and go over what happened and ensure it does not happen again.

Товарищ OB

[Old Bull]

So if I was to read into this a little more you would concentrate more on lock out deadlifts making them stronger rather than your deadlifts to knees (off the floor)so when suit comes on bingo off the floor it comes and wham lock out is there?

Under Boris lockouts do not fix the finish, the lockout of the Deadlift is determined by the Start. If you are not in the correct position at the start you will not finish your lift. Their have been members in the House doing 300 rack lockouts to fix this problem and struggle with 220 off the floor. Also a rack lockout is not a Deadlift it is more a Squat hence not much bang for your Buck training wise.

The basic Sheiko cycles are designed to be well rounded, to keep those things in balance.

Which sheiko does very well, but most people cannot commit to do 20,000 squats, in that time you would a very well balanced lifter.

But obviously one programme won't fit everyone perfectly.

There is not a programme out there that fits everyone perfectly, you are a RTS fan there are WSB, and Linear fans, that would promote their style over Boris.

It is what you do with the training that matters not the style.

[Viking Power]

Sweet as OB, you're right just need more power... more explosive from floor sooner or later the lockouts will have to come they won't be able to hold it back.

[Old Bull]

Trainings of Arresters in the Preparatory Period

Bench Press

5 x 20kgs

5 x 45kgs

5 x 65kgs

4 x 77.5kgs x 2 Sets

3 x 92.5kgs x 3 Sets

Squats

5 x 20kgs

5 x 50kgs

5 x 80kgs

5 x 105kgs

4 x 125kgs x 2 Sets (B)

3 x 145kgs x 3 Sets (B)

4 Board Bench Press

5 x 110kgs x 4 Sets

DB Flies

10 x 25lb x 3 Sets

Notes:

Start of the Conditioning Week, have been talking with Coach Dave Bates about some subltle changes to my build up to the Nationals in August

Товарищ OB

[Old Bull]

Sweet as OB, you're right just need more power... more explosive from floor sooner or later the lockouts will have to come they won't be able to hold it back.

That's the key Bro

[Big john]

commin onto this journal im always learning something new :nod:

have been talking with Coach Dave Bates about some subltle changes to my build up to the Nationals in August

whats instore for the leadup to natonals OB?

[Viking Power]

Hey OB

How's the body feeling mate sore? good to have ya back posting your workouts mate very good to read each day.

:clap: be the strongest OB

VP

[Old Bull]

commin onto this journal im always learning something new :nod:

have been talking with Coach Dave Bates about some subltle changes to my build up to the Nationals in August

whats instore for the leadup to natonals OB?

Hey Big Guy,

Pretty well the same as I normally do, but i will be doing paused Squats on the second Squat Session on the Double Squat days, and lowering my board presses from 4 to 3 Board. Did not get much out of the 4-5 in so far as transfer to lockout, my weak area is 2-3 board raw so will target this.

Hey OB

How's the body feeling mate sore? good to have ya back posting your workouts mate very good to read each day.

:clap: be the strongest OB

VP

Better now but today was like starting back at school after a long break, but thats good, makes me want to push just that much more.

OB