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And no shame Pabs if you do use. Just sucks if you getting labelled when not.

Thanks mate but I don't use. As I've said though, I have nothing against those that do. I think the guy who commented/ insinuated about me was maybe hiding his own failings. I've posted my recent pics up on here and there's no way in hell I have the musculature associated with steroids, at least in my opinion.

My strength is nothing to gloat about in the scheme of things either although I am happy with how I'm progressing.

Purely from a curiosity point of view though, I wonder how they affect epileptics if they even do at all. With all my body has been through and continues to, I'm extremely careful what I put into it.

Now if they said protein powder was bad for epileptics.....I would be rather pissed. :P

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Naa bro they all natty :pfft: especially stallone

What, do you reckon those fizeeks arent achievable natty? Theyre not even that big or ripped

Could have been achieved natty, we don't know much about him before this but does it even matter?

Actors really just use the stuff like another prop (excuse pun), movies like Rocky you just know are going to make it big time (immortalising the stars) and Stallone did what he had to do to be in his best condition at the time of the shooting.

but...why do we even care what others do or do not take? If it is contained to themselves, why must we make it our concern? When you're watching a BB show are you thinking about peoples cycles? Watching movies do you think about whether the lead got his physique natty or not? When you watch pornos do you fixate yourselves over what kind of dick pills the actors are popping?

Being natty is great but IMO people who go trashing/judging others who are not are just as bad as those religious nuts who do the same to anything against their literature.

Personally I think the bigger concern is people who use steroids and look natty.

What's all that shit about??

deserves a new thread hahaha

:pfft: :pfft: :pfft: Totally agree :clap:

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Usually if someone is really lean they get labelled as 'on' regardless of their size as it's all an illusion up to a certain point.

Powerlifters that are 140kg's and beat red with 30% body fat get left alone generally as people don't suspect.

What does on the gear mean though?

I know 12 males on TRT... are they 'juicing?'

And 1 aids patient on 400mg a week whom I talk to frequently... is he juicing? Do these people have the right to be shunted into the same catagory as a teen or mid twenties lifter?

What about the teen that has growth retadation?

Or the 19 year old who genetically has a test reading of 4 n/mols?

If the teen with a reading of 4 can't make the rugby squad because he cant grow to the same size as the other players who are natural and have a reading of 16n/mols is he really cheating by adding synthetic testosterone and bring his levels up to 16n/mols?

If someone asks you if you are on the juice and you are, you say no as juice contains fructose which is poorly utilised and can lead to fat gain.

If someone asks if you use gear, you say no I lift raw or yes, single ply.

If someone asks if you are on the sauce you say no as sauce contains too much sodium and you use pepper as a seasoning instead

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Pabs how did you get injured? if you dont mind me asking

I was in a freak accident on a bus. I tripped over a bag on the bus floor after the driver had to slam on the brakes. I somehow managed to hit the bar on top of the seats (one of the old fashioned buses) with my neck and back and next thing you know.....I wake up in hospital unable to walk. Woo.

The epilepsy could have been triggered by that as well although I have had other head trauma as well so they really can't pinpoint what exactly caused it.

It's been a hard road but hey, I can now walk and workout with my sons. There are people out there that are a lot worse off than me.

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