Pure Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Does anyone know of any decent powerlifting gyms or olympic lifting gyms where you can get a decent coach or trainer to help you out.Im looking to improve my strength for kickboxing, and have been lifting for a few years now but I think id do better with an experienced coach that knows what he's talking about as apposed to a 80kg personal trainer that doesnt know what a deadlift is :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Posted July 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Preferably in the Manukau region too please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varven Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Good luck finding a coach that can design strenght based programmes for fighters. Theyre few and far in between,however, i do have something that is very valuabel for mma fighters :strenght training for mma fightershttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1034530endurance training for mma fightershttp://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1083869good luck and let us know how you get on in your quest.Have you already competed in KB ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Posted July 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Ive had one fight, but I wanna focus more on MMA. I have been a fan for a few years and its a great sport.But im just interested in getting a coach to guide me through olympic lifting. I wanna be more explosive and get someone with actual hands on experience instead of just winging it from stuff I read off the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 You may be wise then to either:a)Go to the Gillies Ave Weightlifting Gym, behind Badminton Hall in Newmarket. There are a number of dudes there who could help youb)Give Expensive Urine a PM, he could definately help you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Posted July 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Thanks for the help guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varven Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Where do you train in MMA .. ?are you planning to go overseas for comps ?where do you wanna start off ?Have a look at that routine I posted up.. it is very sensible. its the base template being used by guys on ufc like chuck liddel and George St Pierre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Posted July 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Been doing kickboxing for about a year and have recently started throwing BJJ into the mix aswell. To tell you the truth it would be my dream to travel to the states and just commit myself to MMA full time. I dont know if you watch MMA much but it becomes an addiction after a while, you have to see every event, particularly Pride and the UFC.But at the moment its more of something that I want to do in the future and not really a reality yet. Im all over the place at the moment juggling Work, training and life basically. Havnt found anyone that has similar goals yet, their basically all kickboxing or all BJJ at my gym. Not really any MMA'ers Except for the hardcore guys who you wouldnt wanna meet in a dark alley lol, two of them have done King of the Cage matches and stuff like that. What about you? Do you train MMA?Ill read the articles over the weekend. They seem good. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varven Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 I was training at strykeforce gym mma out west.Stopped now @ that gym, but training at a few others.Doing some Jap Jiu Jitsu stuff, not the traditional stuff, but more hybrid.Lots of clinch work, dirty boxing and grappling.Yeah Pride is good.Its impossible to get into MMA from here. Id say go to Japan and train there and break into pride.They like foreign fighters there and lots and lots of Shooto (chute boxing ) /mma schools there.KB and BJJ is a good start, dont ignore your clinch fighting, start chucking in once a week of wrestling or judo... judo helps immensly for condition.when you keep getting slammed into the ground by 100 - 140kg judo-ka's youll be ready to get close with those wrestling boys fight hard,v.v. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varven Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 pm me for info about mma in japan.. ive got loads of stuff.E.U and big mac from this forum are teachin me hang cleans and snatch to improve my explosive strenght for mma training.Im out of mma training for a while due to injuries.Repeated arm bars do bad things to your tendons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big MAC Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 If you want MMA training, come see me, I'll happily toss you around. Just don't hurt me back :pfft: Yeah VV, we're going to have you doing the oly lifts like a pro soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 dont ignore your clinch fighting, start chucking in once a week of wrestling or judo... judo helps immensly for condition. if u wont to train for some judo i can recommend a club out west which is probably the best one in nz.my best m8s family started the club and hes overseas fighting at the moment.and by the way ju jitsu only good if you can get yr opponent to the ground. and youll learn various arm bars and chokes at the judo any way.p.s by memory ther is a annual judo vs ju jitsu event in auckland and the good judo fighters most of the time kick the good ju jitsu guys asses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyone Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Does anyone know of any decent powerlifting gyms or olympic lifting gyms where you can get a decent coach or trainer to help you out.Im looking to improve my strength for kickboxing, and have been lifting for a few years now but I think id do better with an experienced coach that knows what he's talking about as apposed to a 80kg personal trainer that doesnt know what a deadlift is :wink:Theres a gym on Ryan Place in Manukau (off Great south road) called Genetics Gym. Lance Stewart works there and he's an awesome powerlifter that trains quite a few guys in olympic lifting and the such. I know they have a website... maybe try googling genetics gym or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc squat Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 frank boulgaris is ex NZ powerliftig champion. owns a gym at Grafton symmonds street called BTS and has another one in mount eden. he does PTraining which is worth its weight in gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 another one in mount eden.this is the colosseum gym.a friend of a friend has just started powerlifting and has been traing there with him for about a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big MAC Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 frank boulgaris is ex NZ powerliftig champion. owns a gym at Grafton symmonds street called BTS and has another one in mount eden. he does PTraining which is worth its weight in goldBig props to Frank, he's got a cool gym in Symonds and is a great guy, 360kg raw squat and 250kg bench at 115kg bw.edit: frank did 360 squat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc squat Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 started training at BTS since arriving in NZ- frank has been fantastic and really recommend him. got a pb on squat of 200k technique and physique really imrpoved thanks to his input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big MAC Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 started training at BTS since arriving in NZ- frank has been fantastic and really recommend him. got a pb on squat of 200k technique and physique really imrpoved thanks to his input.For sure, I taught myself to squat, if he hadn't stepped in and told me straight that what I was doing was wrong I probably would have hurt myself badly. He taught me to have control before racking and descending etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varven Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 started training at BTS since arriving in NZ- frank has been fantastic and really recommend him. got a pb on squat of 200k technique and physique really imrpoved thanks to his input.For sure, I taught myself to squat, if he hadn't stepped in and told me straight that what I was doing was wrong I probably would have hurt myself badly. He taught me to have control before racking and descending etc.And now your teaching me this... and how to breathe properly its amazing what a few tips can do to someones lifting career ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varven Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 dont ignore your clinch fighting, start chucking in once a week of wrestling or judo... judo helps immensly for condition. if u wont to train for some judo i can recommend a club out west which is probably the best one in nz.my best m8s family started the club and hes overseas fighting at the moment.and by the way ju jitsu only good if you can get yr opponent to the ground. and youll learn various arm bars and chokes at the judo any way.p.s by memory ther is a annual judo vs ju jitsu event in auckland and the good judo fighters most of the time kick the good ju jitsu guys assesHey bro, which Judo club is it ?I havent done any Judo, looking to start some in the imminent future after my pl meet and once I heal from injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 its called the western judo academy.they train in the rec centre of the west wave aquatic centre.monday and thursday are fighting and tuesday is conditioning training and maybe another day or two they train im not sure.i used to wrestle abit when i was at school then have had a few trainings with my mate. but id rather commit my self to other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Posted July 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Thanks for the help guys, I think Ill check out genetics gym, its just around the corner from the gym I go to at the moment, its amazing ive never seen it before.Also the judo place sounds great, but its a bit too far out for me, I live in Pukekohe and I drive to ellerslie to train KB and BJJ which is already a fairly long drive.I actually contacted Enson Inoue a couple of monthes ago to get his opinion on training in Japan. He said it is quite expensive to live over there and it is hard to get a decent job, if you cant speak japanese, he also said there are mostly light weight fights and that I might not be able to get an opponent because of the size difference of the Japanese. But id be keen for whatever info you have Varven? He recommended Hawaii or Guam as he has gyms in those places aswell.Hawaii would be wicked, imagine training with BJ Penn or Mayhem Miller that would be the shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 size difference of the Japanese.u oviously havnt seen many japanese judo fighters theyre huge. make pacific islanders look small.tht said ther is probably more light weight fighters. my mate fights in the under 68kg but this is probably the hardest weight category out of all of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varven Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Hey mate,your friends advice about Japan is partly correct.It is quite hard without knowing the language, but it can be an interesting challenge if you are a person up for such feats. Finding a job can also be hard, unless you don't mind relatively low paying hospo jobs. If your ultimate goal is to get into MMA, Im sure you could save up some money here, and put up with some harsh living conditions etc for 3 months when you train in japan.You dont have to live there all year around.. regular training trips are a good start as well.Wherabouts do you train in Ellerslie ? I live out west, but work in Ellerslie, so Im looking for training gyms around there as it will save me time travelling.Im at work now and will forward you all the links I have of MMA in Japan when I get home.Also 2 guns is right about Japanese Judo-ka and mma fighters, some of them are very on par with P.I sizes.For instance Hidehiko Yoshida, a top pride contender (has beaten both Mark Hunt from NZ and Mirko Cro Crop as well as Tank Abbot- the bar room brawler with the infamous 600lb raw bench press).Hes somewhere at 5,10 height and 105kgs.There are LOTS of Korean and Japanese EX pro wrestlers on pride, none of these lads come in anywhere less than 100kgs, so Im pretty sure they will fall into the weight categories you desire.Not too forget the top contenders on pride are all foreigners (Who are big), and these are the boys taht train at MMA gym in Japan.Think Mirko Cro Crop, Emelianko Fedor, Wanderlei Silva, even the Gracies, Mark Hunt, Bob Sapp, Bobby Orgeon(Sp?), heaps of others... they all train in Japanese Gyms for most of the year.Hidehiko Yoshida(The aforementioned Judo-ka, also olympic and commonwealth gold medalist in Judo) has several clubs around the Tokyo prefecture. They have KB, BJJ, Judo. Fighters who train in gyms like these usually show potential and get picked, mentored and break into pro fighting.Anyway, enough of the ranting, Ill send you some links once I compile them into a list from my bookmarks and Ill look forward to training locations in Ellerslie too,regardsV.V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACKED Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 I fight MMA on the north shore. If you're ever that way come to integrated fighting. http://www.integratedfighting.org As for training goes, that link that Varven gave is great. I'm off to Hawaii on the 3rd of August for a trip, i'm gunna visit Relson Gracie's jujitsu academy http://www.relsongracie.com and have a few sessions there. Should be awesome! then come back and gunna have a crack at the SJJ comp on the 26th August =) Anyway back to the original question. I know a guy on the North Shore (Silva) who trains kickboxers etc, he's located at Takapuna Les Mills gym, maybe give them a call just to ask a few questions, he's awesome and trying to help. All the best 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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