Overtraining & Undereating

[ThePman]

After 2 weeks, I hit it with 2 days of Anti-I's... swelling went down, I'm now back up to decent weights...

Normally my elbow takes up to 3 months to heal...

Don't know if its a lucky one off, or there is some scientific reasoning to it

I've had that problem for years now. My pressing strength and upper body development have always lagged way behind because my shoulders, the right in particular, always hurt too much to train them hard. Any time my bench gets up around 120-125 the pain starts to kick in hard and I always did the rest/ice/drugs thing to let it recuperate. I haven't really made any progress on my bench strength since like 2002.

At this point there's nothing left to try But keeping these old injuries mobile and under weight seems to be the key -- doesn't have to be max weights or even particularly heavy, just something to keep it moving and get blood flowing through those soft tissues.

[Daz69]

After 2 weeks, I hit it with 2 days of Anti-I's... swelling went down, I'm now back up to decent weights...

Normally my elbow takes up to 3 months to heal...

Don't know if its a lucky one off, or there is some scientific reasoning to it

I've had that problem for years now. My pressing strength and upper body development have always lagged way behind because my shoulders, the right in particular, always hurt too much to train them hard. Any time my bench gets up around 120-125 the pain starts to kick in hard and I always did the rest/ice/drugs thing to let it recuperate. I haven't really made any progress on my bench strength since like 2002.

At this point there's nothing left to try But keeping these old injuries mobile and under weight seems to be the key -- doesn't have to be max weights or even particularly heavy, just something to keep it moving and get blood flowing through those soft tissues.

I read one of your articles on shoulder rehab a while ago & ceased all wide grip exercises, kept everything shoulder width..... And worked on upper back/scapular strength...

A rotator cuff injury I had for over 12 months has now gone, standing press, & bench max's have increased beyond previous PB...

If I revert to wide grip i can feel it returning so don't...

Great info Matt............. & Thanks

[VanillaGorilla]

Same here. Couldn't press a barbell with any decent weight because of my left shoulder. Brought my grip in on all exercises and everything came right as rain. Never going wide again. I think Wendler also advocates a narrower grip for pressing longevity.

[ThePman]

Close-grip is a shoulder-saver for sure.

26-July

Squats, up to 160, 140 / 2 triples

Close-grips, 110x2, 115 / 4 singles, 100 / 2 ladders x1/2/3

Chins, +25 / 2 ladders x1/2/3

Shoulder is still trying to psych me out, but I'll show it with drugs and oppression. Squats feeling pretty good, no-no-no strength back up to normal with minimal adrenaline. The 165 will come shortly.

[ThePman]

28-July

Front Squats, up to 130

Squats, up to 150

Strict Press, 60 / 5 doubles

Chins, +10 / 3x5

Quick session today, took about half an hour.

[poos_n_wees]

Shoulder is still trying to psych me out, but I'll show it with drugs and oppression.

Atta boy

[ThePman]

Pretty achy and the gym was cold as shit tonight, so I just did my warmups and came home.

[ThePman]

Pretty achy and the gym was cold as shit tonight, so I just did my warmups and came home.

Doldrums were no better today. Did warmups, pumped the arms, and called it a day.

I'm considering a slightly different strategy for the next week or two, depending on how tomorrow goes.

[steak]

Pretty achy and the gym was cold as shit tonight, so I just did my warmups and came home.

Doldrums were no better today. Did warmups, pumped the arms, and called it a day.

IMPOSTER!!! Wheres Matt!? Bring him back, What have you done with him

just the cold bro...get into the stims, deep heat and a good loud dose of Pantera 8)

[ThePman]

I think you're right actually, I've felt really chilled to the bone the last two days and that brings out all the aches and pains. Really throws my head out of it, and once that happens it's over.

[ThePman]

Took yesterday off to drink beer.

1-August

Squats, up to 150, 125 / 4 doubles

Overheads, push press up to 80x2, strict press 60 / 4 triples

Chins, 7 sets of 6

couple sets of high-rep flyes with a deep stretch to work on that shoulder tendon

Feeling a bit run down today and I can't tell if it's minor hangover or the cold or both. I wore an extra layer today but still felt a bit chilled until after the squats were done. I might need to get back in my old habit of doing a ton of warmup sets on days I feel like that. Once I got going all the sets were fast.

[Big john]

Took yesterday off to drink beer.

1-August

Squats, up to 150, 125 / 4 doubles

Overheads, push press up to 80x2, strict press 60 / 4 triples

Chins, 7 sets of 6

couple sets of high-rep flyes with a deep stretch to work on that shoulder tendon

Feeling a bit run down today and I can't tell if it's minor hangover or the cold or both. I wore an extra layer today but still felt a bit chilled until after the squats were done. I might need to get back in my old habit of doing a ton of warmup sets on days I feel like that. Once I got going all the sets were fast.

im finding im having the same prob with the colder weather, but like ya said chuck in afew extra warm up sets and usually starts to come right

[ThePman]

im finding im having the same prob with the colder weather, but like ya said chuck in afew extra warm up sets and usually starts to come right

It's definitely been working on me the last week or two.

2-August

Squats, 150 / 2 singles, 130 / 4 doubles

Close-grip Bench, 100 / 2 triples, 110 / 2 doubles

Wide-grip, 60 / 2x15

Chins, +25 / 5 triples

Mediocre. Still feel like I've got a very minor head cold, but training was a little better tonight. Might just be some Broz flu acting up, who knows.

[tinytraps]

I think you're right actually, I've felt really chilled to the bone the last two days and that brings out all the aches and pains. Really throws my head out of it, and once that happens it's over.

Fortunately I prepared for this situation and made sure I had ample insulation coming into winter :pfft:

[ThePman]

Trained yesterday, just didn't log it. Pretty mediocre session of FSQ, some push presses, and weighted chins.

5-August

Squats, up to 160, 130x2/3

Close-grips, up to 110x2, 115 / 2 singles, 100x2/3/5/2/3

Chins, +30 / 5 doubles

I'm feeling really stale on the max-single squats right now. Tonight felt good but it was literally the first good squat workout I've had in about two weeks. If there's no turn around by Monday I've got a backup plan that will get some higher reps back in the rotation and maybe dig out of the rut.

My plan to annihilate my shoulder injury with relentless overload seems to be working. It still hurts but it's starting to realize it has no choice.

[Big john]

My plan to annihilate my shoulder injury with relentless overload seems to be working. It still hurts but it's starting to realize it has no choice.

i like the way of thinking here.. 8)

[Dr Squat]

I'm feeling really stale on the max-single squats right now. Tonight felt good but it was literally the first good squat workout I've had in about two weeks. If there's no turn around by Monday I've got a backup plan that will get some higher reps back in the rotation and maybe dig out of the rut.

What about changing the bar (if safety squat bar etc are available)? Or adding chains? Even hitting a form of good mornings for a change. I find that the change in exercise serves as a mental refresher as much as a physical one.

As for the cold! You boys should come and spend a few days in quake city? Fark it is cold. :shock:

[ThePman]

I wish I had access to an SSB or even a plain cambered bar for things like that. I could spring for one myself, but I've been holding our for a Trademe bargain.

Ditto for chains, I can get them pretty reasonably from marine supply but I keep putting it off.

You can keep your cold though

6-August

Front Squats, 110 / 6 doubles

Push Press, 75 / 6 doubles

misc pumping for arms and abs

Took an intentional light day today, just keeping everything moving.

[ThePman]

Haven't logged the last few sessions, as they were nothing interesting.

I decided on a strategy to take for the next little bit, to see about shaking out the cobwebs.

11-August

DL (hooked), up to 200x2, 210

Strict Press, 60x3, 65x3

couple sets of light squats

Squats felt horrible after pulling and the knees really let me know about it without my Tommy Konos on.

[Big john]

where abouts did you get your T.Ks from? Underground elite briz?

[ThePman]

I bought them off TK himself about a year, year and a half ago. He ships down here for a good rate.

[ThePman]

13-August

DL, up to 200x2

Strict Press, 65 / 4 triples

some curls and side bends

[ThePman]

14-August

Squats up to 140

Close-grips, 90x8, wide-grip 60x20

Chins, +30 / 2 triples

three sets of pushdowns

[startinfromscratch]

where you at brozmie?

[ThePman]

Still here, still training, just not online much at the moment (by choice). I'm taking a mental recovery month right now, getting to the gym when I feel like it (enough to maintain) and enjoying some pints on the weekends

I was right at the edge of burning myself out, so I figured it's best to be pro-active instead of pushing myself into another four months of not caring about lifting.

I'll start logging more often once I get back into stride in another week or two.