Sust + Winny

[bob26]

yeah buddy, f*ck all that shit.. seriously.. just take your sus and stan eat clean and cardio if you want to stay leaner (yes u will get leaner and put on muscle mass with any steroid if diet is good) forgetting all this bro science and opinion thats what test pretty much does builds muscle and burns fat!

take a diuretic or two b4 the shoot, dont base your whole cycle around your photo shoot thats just popped up.

:wink: liked.

[Optimass]

take a diuretic or two b4 the shoot, dont base your whole cycle around your photo shoot thats just popped up.

:nod:

Furosemide is a common potassium-sparing diuretic used by bodybuilders. One 40 mg pill usually results in a 5-pound fluid loss within 2 to 4 hours. Furosemide is marketed under a wealth of brand names, including Aisemide, Beronald, Desdemin, Discoid, Diural, Diurapid, Dryptal, Durafurid, Errolon, Eutensin, Frusetic, Frusid, Fulsix, Fuluvamide, Furesis, Furix, Furo-Puren, Furosedon, Hydro-rapid, Impugan, Katlex, Lasilix, Lasix, Lodix, Lowpston, Macasirool, Mirfat, Nicorol, Odemase, Oedemex, Profemin, Rosemide, Rusyde, Salix, Trofurit, Urex, and Frudix.

Furosemide is classified as a loop agent. Not only will it cause water and potassium loss, but also depletes the body of sodium and chloride. There is a very fine line between the electrolytes that regulate the heart. One would be better advised to take 20mgs at a time allowing 4 to 5 hours before taking the next dose. One must ensure that the first dose has worn off before starting another. An ideal plan might be to take 100mg Furosemide daily for 3-5 days prior to the show, giving the body a more gradual reduction of subcutaneous water, and allowing the bodybuilder to retain more intracellular water. If a ‘flattening-out’ effect occurs, the bodybuilder should consume small amounts of water with a few carbs, drawing water back into the muscle group. Alternatively, many athletes choose to use diazyde as a water-cutting agent.

No of people in modeling industry that use this to sharpen up for photoshoots - would be a last resort for me though.

Has risk associated but means it wont require change to your cycle. I have used a similar product in the past but did so whilst loading sodum and water into my nutro plan (via high sodium protein TUNA and other fish etc)

A safer alternative could be to use a product like Taraxatone - have used it successfully in the past and good for reducing water under skin to make you look harder. (used in conjunction with sodium and water load).

[tomsammce]

the amizide is abit safer and not as harsh on the body as the lasix (furosemide). though im not the most knowleagable person when it comes to diuretics.

any thought to use these medications should be coupled with lots and lots of reading and understanding. they can be very dangerous but are ok if used sensibly and with supervision.

[Optimass]

the amizide is abit safer and not as harsh on the body as the lasix (furosemide). though im not the most knowleagable person when it comes to diuretics.

any thought to use these medications should be coupled with lots and lots of reading and understanding. they can be very dangerous but are ok if used sensibly and with supervision.

absolutely ... the "more is better" theory doesn't apply and could be very serious.

[WANABJAKD]

lmfao :clap:

[Daz69]

Hey bro

Just wanted to ask your experiences with var were?

I've heard mixed reviews no doubt from various sources and qualities. I've always wanted to try it, in fact it was my first option before injectables, I quickly got talked out of that but Var still captures my attention everytime it comes up. I planed to run it alone 50-80 mg a day. Like a bridge.

How much pr 10mg was your source? was it from nz?

Sounds like Var with an AI gave some good results, surely not sustainable but worth it?

at around 85kg LBM would 50-08mg a day be sufficient

Cheers bro, good seeing you posting heaps on the boards, I have just finished my first cycle of just test e, reviewing what I have done, what I could've done better and whats next for me. Certainly a new way of life.

Peace

-C

Hey Chemo....

As I've said before your thing is martial arts as was mine, you dont need size or extra weight, just strength & agression....

Oxandrolone is great for both....

Take it leading up to fights, I'm sure you won't be disapointed... :grin:

Hope you find a genuine source...

If you ever visit the UK you can have mine..... :pfft: :pfft: :pfft:

[Chemo]

Hey Chemo....

As I've said before your thing is martial arts as was mine, you dont need size or extra weight, just strength & agression....

Oxandrolone is great for both....

Take it leading up to fights, I'm sure you won't be disapointed...

Hope you find a genuine source...

If you ever visit the UK you can have mine.....

Ha cheers bro, who knows could be there for work sometime soon.

As for not getting big....ahh.... too late for that. Was 96 today O__O BOOM

Sounds like I got a good source, just looking at inj options such as winny, tren, masteron etc. Seeing what people think.

chem next time get the mod to delete both of your posts.

That...woulda been good to know :oops: