Shoulders..

[Andy2010]

No matter how hard I push I never get sore front / rear / side delts after training.. I usually do the following

Press 2 different angles

Side raises

Upright rows or front raises

Rear flys (machine or cable)

Shrugs

Suggestions please!! :grin:

[PeterDolan]

I though I never did but one day I did some light laterals the next day and they were sore, try that next time

[Andy2010]

How about rep range mate? im usually 12 / 10 / 8 / 6 / 4

[PeterDolan]

Up to you really, I don't like dropping to 4 for shoulders and only go to 6 every now and then

If they aren't reacting to it, try sticking to 15-8

Also try moving your laterals to the first exercise

[Andy2010]

Will try that on thur.. changing to first excercise sounds good..

[PeterDolan]

Pre-exhausts them, makes sure your arms don't dominate the movement

[Ryno33]

the db lateral raise is def a burner, 3 sets 8 - 8 - 10 and as heavy as you can go will get you there. Even the massive guys cant do massive weights with it so don't be ashamed using the good ol' 5kg db haha :grin:

[tinytraps]

try some max singles

[steak]

try some volume

10-12 sets of standing overhead press...pyramid it if you like then a few sets of the others... side lats, rear delts.

[Big john]

try some volume

10-12 sets of standing overhead press...pyramid it if you like then a few sets of the others... side lats, rear delts.

a page from the steak-a-size 8) .

build that mass with some heavy compound movement then move on to the paint jobs, ie isolation exe just like steak said

[nate225]

No matter how hard I push I never get sore front / rear / side delts after training..

Why do you need to get sore? Not absolutely necessary to grow. Sure sometimes if you have a big session you get sore, but with consistency soreness is not always the end result of training.

[Monarchking]

i think the only time i have had sore shoulders would have been the first time I trained them, i was going 8kilo seated db press and side raises spoted. can only get sore front delts, and I hate that feeling.

[samoan_muscle]

i think the only time i have had sore shoulders would have been the first time I trained them, i was going 8kilo seated db press and side raises spoted. can only get sore front delts, and I hate that feeling.

I get always get sore delts after a shoulder workout...

Must be the 280 reps of dumbell lateral raises.

[Monarchking]

i think the only time i have had sore shoulders would have been the first time I trained them, i was going 8kilo seated db press and side raises spoted. can only get sore front delts, and I hate that feeling.

I get always get sore delts after a shoulder workout...

Must be the 280 reps of dumbell lateral raises.

f*ck yea! i realy need to pull fingue with my shoulder training.

[Monarchking]

Must be the 280 reps of dumbell lateral raises.

im keen for some of this action, what 50 reps a set?

[samoan_muscle]

70 mate.

4 Sets of the below:

10 x 2.5kg

10 x 5kg

10 x 7.5kg

10 x 10kg

10 x 7.5kg

10 x 5kg

10 x 2.5kg

Gets them burning pretty bad...

[nate225]

70 mate.

4 Sets of the below:

10 x 2.5kg

10 x 5kg

10 x 7.5kg

10 x 10kg

10 x 7.5kg

10 x 5kg

10 x 2.5kg

Gets them burning pretty bad...

Should do wonders if you're training to swim the English Channel or something....... :pfft: :grin:

[soundsgood]

High reps is definately a killer!

You could also try minimal rest training. Like 1 minute break between sets. 5 sets of 12 shoulder press where last few reps are spotted negatives

5 sets of 12 front plate raises supersetted with side/rear db raises, light weight with perfect form, no swinging being the key

5 sets of 12 Arnold presses again with spots and negatives at the end

Finish on some seated barbell press. 3 sets of max reps.

If you dont get the burn after that you're a machine. :pfft:

[Gym rat]

try doing some FST-7 shoulder training like doing Db lateral raises 7x10-12 with 30 to 45 second rest between sets which will have your shoulders burning and screaming as well :twisted:

[Andy2010]

Thanks for all the tips guys, trained them tonight.. started on side raises instead of presses, and highers reps.. plenty of burn!!

:grin:

[tomsammce]

70 mate.

4 Sets of the below:

10 x 2.5kg

10 x 5kg

10 x 7.5kg

10 x 10kg

10 x 7.5kg

10 x 5kg

10 x 2.5kg

Gets them burning pretty bad...

THATS f*ck ALL! PUSSY WEIGHTS.

your shoulders dont gotta be sore for them to grow, mine hardly ever sore after i train them

[tomsammce]

10x 2.5kg??? ru fucking kidding me!?!?

im LOL-ing!!!

[Mike Zero]

10x 2.5kg??? ru fucking kidding me!?!?

im LOL-ing!!!

I don't think that's including arm/hand weight though.

[oldfella]

70 mate.

4 Sets of the below:

10 x 2.5kg

10 x 5kg

10 x 7.5kg

10 x 10kg

10 x 7.5kg

10 x 5kg

10 x 2.5kg

Gets them burning pretty bad...

+1

[tomsammce]

10x 2.5kg??? ru fucking kidding me!?!?

im LOL-ing!!!

I don't think that's including arm/hand weight though.

lol, yeah i might just do some lateral raises at work wave my hands in the air, make a new exercise up.. cross between a front raise and side raise.. lol