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dirtydogs

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Chemo Senior member

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Lol daz.

Hey bro, what do you do and what do you want out of the PEDs?

Power lifting, figure sports, athletics?

The advice your most likely to get is that the most popular first cycle is

Test E 250-500 straight with nothing else apart from emergency PCT.

http://www.steroid.com/Testosterone-Enanthate.php

I think no matter what you choose your gonna get some performance out of it. The important thing to look at is safe use of steroids, where to inject, frequency and perhaps the properties of that particular substance your using. Most importantly figure out a strategy to cycle off whatever your doing.

http://www.steroid.com/inject.php

http://www.steroid.com/offster.php

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Chemo Senior member

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MNZ on orals

"Haaa! The Orals Only debate continues ad nauseum.

Yes it does work & it can be a useful precursor to a full blown injectable cycle.

Yes you have to go to the gym & lift weights & eat like a mofo possessed

Yes you do loose about 50- 90% of gains in the first few weeks after the cycle

Yes you do suppress your HPTA depending on how long & what dose you use

Yes you get water retention & estrogen issues including gyno

Yes you need to do a PCT immediately after the cycle for 2-3 weeks

Yes Anadrol is more powerful & has more sides than Dianabol

Yes you can use Winstrol with Dianabol but you will put twice the stress on the liver in the process

Yes Anavar is a weak oral as a standalone but the Ladies love it

Yes you should use a liver protector like Milk Thistle

Yes liver enzymes will return to normal 3-4 weeks after your oral cycle

Yes typically Dbol Pinks or Blue hearts contain considerably less Dbol powder than you have paid for in many examples

So, Yes oral only cycles can be effective but often the gains are short & not good quality. But sure try it as life is too short to be small!"

Dbol is a lol cause a lot of us are to chicken shit to dive into pinning up, myself included, that and the tpoic has been done to death. No reason deny the guy any help though.

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tomsammce Veteran member

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if you are serious enough and want the results you think you will get from aas, then fear of sticking a sharp object into our arse doesnt really come into the picture.

and overall as far as aas is concerned pinning should be least of your worries.

these guys that say they want to do oral only coz they scared of pins arent serious enough to be dong a cycle imo. steroid aint all sunshine and daisies.

i have seen guys so scaredd of a lil 1inch needle at first and nowadays they cannot wait till tuesday and fridays or whatever day they pin on lol fiends?

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Chemo Senior member

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Yes Daz, I am very keen on the Anavar. Sounds perfect for me (apart from the price) :twisted:

"if you are serious enough and want the results you think you will get from aas, then fear of sticking a sharp object into our arse doesnt really come into the picture."

Yeah cool, but you don't have to pin up straight away.

I can see where this is going so I guess again, the answer to this thread is Test E!

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Daz69 Senior member

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your anavar only cycle will bring nothing but regret and disappointment, unless u have a vagina...

Hey Tom....

Its not about size........

Its about strength & agression....

I found it great for boxing.....

Oh I haven't found my vigina yet, but i'm still looking..

:pfft: :pfft: :pfft:

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Can you please explain why Anavar would not be suitable then? for both dirtydogs and I?

Keeping in mind we have different goals.

Dirtydogs wishes to achieve more mass and I want to maintain my weight and replace fat with muscle for combat sports.

How would it be a mistake? Monetarily?

"people learn from their mistakes. successful people learn from other peoples mistakes." I agree,

I also like the statements "little knowledge is a dangerous thing" and "knowledge is power"

Share your knowledge bro

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samoan_muscle Veteran member

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your anavar only cycle will bring nothing but regret and disappointment, unless u have a vagina...

It's most likely you havent used any real Anavar or maybe it was seriously underdosed. Karma maybe?

Anavar is a great drug for both strength and hardening in my opinion.

I've used it to "bridge" between blast phases before and was happy with the results. At 100mg day it works best.

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Hey Tom....

Its not about size........

Its about strength & agression....

I found it great for boxing.....

I'm totally on the same page, mass is great but for my goals i dont want the water retention associated with dbol, and it seems anavar helps you achieve lean mass, lasting gains fat loss. As small as the gains will be, that in theory sound fantastic for manipulating body composition and as a training aid for any man and or woman.

http://www.anavar.com/index.html

But perhaps for Dirty dbol would be better?

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Hey Tom....

Its not about size........

Its about strength & agression....

I found it great for boxing.....

I'm totally on the same page, mass is great but for my goals i dont want the water retention associated with dbol, and it seems anavar helps you achieve lean mass, lasting gains fat loss. As small as the gains will be, that in theory sound fantastic for manipulating body composition and as a training aid for any man and or woman.

http://www.anavar.com/index.html

But perhaps for Dirty dbol would be better?

i wasn't sugessting dbol. u could run a low dose of test and/or eq and get better resuls and would wrkout more economial. maybe like 150mg ea a week or sumthing, but hey yr the expert. or theres this stuff called superpump....

SM, how much did that cost you to run 100mg a day of var for a bridge (ull prob lie and say it was free to justify it lol).but for joe bloggs what a waste of money and so unnesaercery when a small amount of test would have been just as good for a bridge

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