Growths Journal

[jono]

lol :pfft: i realise the ass is worked less on front squats and they indeed hit your quads hard, but its just not what im looking for in this instance, leg extensions are perfect.

:grin: Well i go to the gym to better myself not to impress girls with my big ass like you jono :pfft:

sigh lol. well i guess you will never train legs properly then. mr chicken legs :grin:

[Growth]

edit: btw the only ppl ive seen who worry about this ... have small legs

mate exactly! i do have small legs compared with ass thats why i do extra work on just the quads, really i should be doing extra work on the hams too but you get the point.

[Growth]

sigh lol. well i guess you will never train legs properly then. mr chicken legs :grin:

i guess not mr ass :pfft:

[jono]

edit: btw the only ppl ive seen who worry about this ... have small legs

mate exactly! i do have small legs compared with ass thats why i do extra work on just the quads, really i should be doing extra work on the hams too but you get the point.

your legs will catch up man.

[jono]

sigh lol. well i guess you will never train legs properly then. mr chicken legs :grin:

i guess not mr ass :pfft:

:grin: your legs will catch up, at least they did with me.

[Ash]

LOL you 2 are killing me with this discussion. :pfft:

Maybe you can get TV3 to add you guys to the next leaders debate? Mr. Ass vs. Mr. Legs - next Monday at 20H00. :grin:

[Marcus]

I'd have to agree with Jono here & say that leg extensions are a pretty useless exercise.

Not trying to be an ass here (excuse the pun :grin: ) but Growth you are fooling yourself if you think these are gonna build your quads into monsters. To make those bad boys grow you're gonna need to give them the same thrashing you are giving the rest of your body.

Your arse will not grow disproportionately to your quads & if you think it is then you are overnanalyzing man.

I would also recommend front squats as they don't work your arse as much. Think of the bar placement & you can sort of picture it. For your Friday workouts I would say go with front squats on the smith machine. That way you can work your foot placement in a way that puts all the stress onto your quads.

[Growth]

LOL you 2 are killing me with this discussion. :pfft:

Maybe you can get TV3 to add you guys to the next leaders debate? Mr. Ass vs. Mr. Legs - next Monday at 20H00. :grin:

hehe :pfft:

[Growth]

Your arse will not grow disproportionately to your quads & if you think it is then you are overnanalyzing man.

I would also recommend front squats as they don't work your arse as much. Think of the bar placement & you can sort of picture it. For your Friday workouts I would say go with front squats on the smith machine. That way you can work your foot placement in a way that puts all the stress onto your quads.

Well my ass has been growing at a disproportionate rate, since ive really started hammering out the squats and the legpress my ass had had huge development and my legs harldy any.

Thanks for the advise guys but im going to stick with the extensions for a while anyway to see how they go, i may give front squats a go a little down the line.

[jono]

Your arse will not grow disproportionately to your quads & if you think it is then you are overnanalyzing man.

I would also recommend front squats as they don't work your arse as much. Think of the bar placement & you can sort of picture it. For your Friday workouts I would say go with front squats on the smith machine. That way you can work your foot placement in a way that puts all the stress onto your quads.

Well my ass has been growing at a disproportionate rate, since ive really started hammering out the squats and the legpress my ass had had huge development and my legs harldy any.

Thanks for the advise guys but im going to stick with the extensions for a while anyway to see how they go, i may give front squats a go a little down the line.

the first few times you train legs properly this will happen. then over time your legs will catch up.

[Pseudonym]

Don't tell anyone, but I quite like leg extensions. :shifty:

Seriously though, I think they give a range of motion that you don't get through anything else (except perhaps sissy squats).

[deegee]

I have always had leg extensions as part of my routine from time to time.

worked well for me.

[Marcus]

Seriously though, I think they give a range of motion that you don't get through anything else (except perhaps sissy squats).

How is this so? If you are going below parallel with your squats & right down to the stops with your leg press then I can't see how extensions would be more effective.

I think in Growth's case he should be concentrating on getting his core lifts up to the advanced level that his upper body obviously is.

[Growth]

I think in Growth's case he should be concentrating on getting his core lifts up to the advanced level that his upper body obviously is.

I agree with you there, my squatting is pathetic compared with bench and deadlifts, if i want the squat to go up then i have to squat more simple as that, however for what im trying to achive on my friday workout, leg extrensions are fine.

[Growth]

Todays Workout

Incline Bench

60 x 12

100 x 8

110 x 6

120 x 2

125 x 1

110 x 4

100 x 6

Flat DB Press

47 x 8

47 x 8

47 x 8

47 x 8

SkullCrushers

50 x 8

50 x 8

55 x 6

CG Bench

90 x 8

100 x 5 =

100 x 5 =

Tricep Pushdowns (Bar - Single Pulley)

57 x 8

60 x 5

63 x 4

Did my workout early today, started with incline as usual, it felt pretty good, its useless without a spotter, i was even struggling on 125 like for 10 seconds and a guy walked right passed me! Even though i didnt ask for a spot you would think he would help someone in trouble. Anyway added another set to the bench so its in the diamond form like a few other exercises ive had good results with. Flat bench was alright, i was pretty spent after incline but maanged 8 reps on all sets, should be on to the 52's next week. All tricep work was really good, increases pretty much everywhere, cg stayed the same but ive really solidified the 100.

[jono]

looking good man. i hate training around the bench area, cos theres always some numbskull who goes for that extra rep they shouldnt, and i spend all my time pulling bars off ppls necks lol

[Growth]

i hate training around the bench area, cos theres always some numbskull who goes for that extra rep they shouldnt, and i spend all my time pulling bars off ppls necks lol

Mate thats me all over! Im always going for that unobtainable rep, sometimes i even know i wont be able to do it but i try anyway lol

[jono]

i hate training around the bench area, cos theres always some numbskull who goes for that extra rep they shouldnt, and i spend all my time pulling bars off ppls necks lol

Mate thats me all over! Im always going for that unobtainable rep, sometimes i even know i wont be able to do it but i try anyway lol

lol! :grin: thats why i use dbs for chest, i can keep repping no matter what and if i cant make it i can just drop em

[Growth]

Todays Workout

Lat Pulldowns

42 x 12

117 x 6

120 x 6

130 x 3

BB Rows

100 x 10

125 x 8

145 x 4

Wide Grip Chins

BW+20 x 6 =

BW+20 x 6 =

BW+20 x 6 =

BB Bicep Curls

60 x 6

60 x 6

60 x 6

DB Precher Curls

33 x 8

36 x 6

36 x 6

Finally got tuesdays workout in, i just didnt have the time to squeeze it in yesterday, felt a bit bad because of it but thats life. Anyway today started strong, lat pulldowns were good. BB rows were alright, my lower back was giving me a few problems so no pb today. Solidified the 20kg weight on the wide grip chins, ive decided to drop the pullups until i buy a weight belt, i just cant strap 35+kg using a rope without it leaving bad marks above my hips. For BB curls i decied to keep the reps at 6 instead of push the pb, good form there. Prechers were okay, no pb but still felt good.

[waldo]

How much are you weighing these days dude? Them some pretty serious weights being lifted!

[jono]

awesome workout man. yeah i woul dhold off till that belt too.. must be hella painfull with just a rope lol ! :grin: sounds oldschool as

[Growth]

How much are you weighing these days dude? Them some pretty serious weights being lifted!

Im almost at 98 lol, been in the 95 area for a while, i want to get to 100 before i cut, this is the most i have ever weighed.

[Growth]

awesome workout man. yeah i woul dhold off till that belt too.. must be hella painfull with just a rope lol ! :grin: sounds oldschool as

Yeah man its really bad, and the rope is very thin too, thats why ive gone with wide grips because i cant lift as much, problem is now they are increasing too, better start saving :grin:

[Pseudonym]

Seriously though, I think they give a range of motion that you don't get through anything else (except perhaps sissy squats).

How is this so? If you are going below parallel with your squats & right down to the stops with your leg press then I can't see how extensions would be more effective.

I think in Growth's case he should be concentrating on getting his core lifts up to the advanced level that his upper body obviously is.

Perhaps "range of motion" wasn't quite the right phrase... what I meant was that with most leg exercises, when the leg is straight there's not much pressure on the quad. Even if you don't lock out your knees, the force at the top of a squat is pushing straight down. At this point, the quads aren't doing much except stabilising, and you could just about stand in that position all day (in fact I do, trying to postpone my squats as long as possible... )

Contrast that with a leg extension machine - when the leg is straight the quads are doing all the work to keep it up there. Try holding that one all day!

That's just my rationale... and I'm certainly no expert. :wink:

[jono]

Seriously though, I think they give a range of motion that you don't get through anything else (except perhaps sissy squats).

How is this so? If you are going below parallel with your squats & right down to the stops with your leg press then I can't see how extensions would be more effective.

I think in Growth's case he should be concentrating on getting his core lifts up to the advanced level that his upper body obviously is.

Perhaps "range of motion" wasn't quite the right phrase... what I meant was that with most leg exercises, when the leg is straight there's not much pressure on the quad. Even if you don't lock out your knees, the force at the top of a squat is pushing straight down. At this point, the quads aren't doing much except stabilising, and you could just about stand in that position all day (in fact I do, trying to postpone my squats as long as possible... )

Contrast that with a leg extension machine - when the leg is straight the quads are doing all the work to keep it up there. Try holding that one all day!

That's just my rationale... and I'm certainly no expert. :wink:

never lock your legs out on heavy leg training, good way to destroy your knees, stop just b4 lockout thus tension always on the quads