IGF-1 r3

[r1ngworm]

am wondering if anyone has had experience with this and what sort of results you got?

am looking at using between cycles to help maintain gains before go back on,any info previous experience would be very helpfull :nod:

[tinytraps]

From what little I do know IGF causes hyperplasia within the muscle cells( you basically create new muscle fibres). Not to sure on effects, Im pretty sure that the new muscle you create will atrophy when you come off however Im guessing it will return once you start cycling again

[samoan_muscle]

From what little I do know IGF causes hyperplasia within the muscle cells( you basically create new muscle fibres). Not to sure on effects, Im pretty sure that the new muscle you create will atrophy when you come off however Im guessing it will return once you start cycling again

Have you used it?

[r1ngworm]

from what ive read they are solid gains there to stay?

anyone that has actually used this i woudnt mind getting there views

[Riccardo]

I don't think the new muscle cells would just die away for the same reason your existing ones don't just die away unless there is some reason; trauma, disease etc.

[r1ngworm]

I don't think the new muscle cells would just die away for the same reason your existing ones don't just die away unless there is some reason; trauma, disease etc.

:nod:

[bulking]

Hyperplasia from lr3 is a Myth.

It doesnt/cant act as endogenous Igf but can bind to certain receptors.

Some get a fullness(pump) from it although hyperplasia is extremely unlikely given the molecule is tiny and quickly passes into the bloodstream. Some try microdosing the muscle 10-20 times to try to get past this but I wouldnt bother.

Its good for PCT but if your looking for muscle you will likely be disappointed.

Best to spend your money on GH and increase your endogenous Igf that way.

[nate225]

I know a couple of BBers that were into this for a while.

They believed that local local growth occurred, but the shots hurt like f*ck & needed an anaethetic added if using daily (as seems to be required).

They reckon a fair few guys got sides from this, and word is GH is much better option (although a much costlier option).

Unsure how well this would work as PCT - I'm assuming (and from anecdotal feedback) that high test levels (and associated nitrogen balance) would be necessary to gain good results.

MuscleNZ (aka peptide encyclopedia! :grin: ) may know more about this kind of thing?

[musclenz]

I know a couple of BBers that were into this for a while.

They believed that local local growth occurred, but the shots hurt like f*ck & needed an anaethetic added if using daily (as seems to be required).

They reckon a fair few guys got sides from this, and word is GH is much better option (although a much costlier option).

Unsure how well this would work as PCT - I'm assuming (and from anecdotal feedback) that high test levels (and associated nitrogen balance) would be necessary to gain good results.

MuscleNZ (aka peptide encyclopedia! :grin: ) may know more about this kind of thing?

Bulking has pretty well summed it up him being the expert. I have only done a short course on it & there may have been some short term muscle growth as I was inj into the biceps. You do get a good localised muscle pump but agree better to go with Gh if you can afford it. There is varying opinions on Igf1-R3 (which is the only one to use) so I guess it depends on the individual, how it is reconstituted, stored, how long the cycle & the quality of the peptide.

[genetic freek]

I know a couple of BBers that were into this for a while.

They believed that local local growth occurred, but the shots hurt like f*ck & needed an anaethetic added if using daily (as seems to be required).

They reckon a fair few guys got sides from this, and word is GH is much better option (although a much costlier option).

Unsure how well this would work as PCT - I'm assuming (and from anecdotal feedback) that high test levels (and associated nitrogen balance) would be necessary to gain good results.

MuscleNZ (aka peptide encyclopedia! :grin: ) may know more about this kind of thing?

Bulking has pretty well summed it up him being the expert. I have only done a short course on it & there may have been some short term muscle growth as I was inj into the biceps. You do get a good localised muscle pump but agree better to go with Gh if you can afford it. There is varying opinions on Igf1-R3 (which is the only one to use) so I guess it depends on the individual, how it is reconstituted, stored, how long the cycle & the quality of the peptide.

Correct :pfft: :pfft: :pfft:

[Outkast]

From what little I do know IGF causes hyperplasia within the muscle cells( you basically create new muscle fibres). Not to sure on effects, Im pretty sure that the new muscle you create will atrophy when you come off however Im guessing it will return once you start cycling again

Thats what I heard!

[r1ngworm]

Hyperplasia from lr3 is a Myth.

It doesnt/cant act as endogenous Igf but can bind to certain receptors.

Some get a fullness(pump) from it although hyperplasia is extremely unlikely given the molecule is tiny and quickly passes into the bloodstream. Some try microdosing the muscle 10-20 times to try to get past this but I wouldnt bother.

Its good for PCT but if your looking for muscle you will likely be disappointed.

Best to spend your money on GH and increase your endogenous Igf that way.

better start saving for 600ius of gh then

[train hard]

better start saving for 600ius of gh then

[Daz69]

am wondering if anyone has had experience with this and what sort of results you got?

am looking at using between cycles to help maintain gains before go back on,any info previous experience would be very helpfull :nod:

Hi There....

I've not used it personaly, we used GH inbetween cycles as IGF-1 r3 wasn't available at that time.....

But here is an excelent artical that should tell you all you want to know...

http://old.steroidology.com/steroid-art ... _base.html

Goodluck....

[musclenz]

am wondering if anyone has had experience with this and what sort of results you got?

am looking at using between cycles to help maintain gains before go back on,any info previous experience would be very helpfull :nod:

Hi There....

I've not used it personaly, we used GH inbetween cycles as IGF-1 r3 wasn't available at that time.....

But here is an excelent artical that should tell you all you want to know...

http://old.steroidology.com/steroid-art ... _base.html

Goodluck....

Thats a pretty good article but most IGF you see in NZ is generic Chinese & comes in lyophilized powder form which must be reconstituted with acetic acid. Its a little confusing when they talk about it being transported & stored in BA. Maybe Bulking will comment about this.