My 2.5 year transformation (pics/vids)

[musclenz]

Coming from someone who juices!

All my point was is that too many people are quick to jump on the hes on gear bandwagon and too often the guys hard work is overlooked. Being on gear doesnt equal this guys physique otherwise half the gyms in the country would be filled with guys like this.

Agree with YB. Some guys on here are quick to make a judgement call & people should not be put on the spot about this. Either response they are going to be condemned. Nice work on your physique Josef. Some good potential coming through. Keep training & eating as you are.

[Jigga]

I think that is a fair enough question, hard to compare apples with oranges.

Thanks for taking it in the way I meant DD.

Coming from someone who juices!

All my point was is that too many people are quick to jump on the hes on gear bandwagon and too often the guys hard work is overlooked. Being on gear doesnt equal this guys physique otherwise half the gyms in the country would be filled with guys like this.

I wasn't jumping on any band wagon or taking anything away from him, I don't have anything against gear at all. Understand where you are coming from though.

Agree with Yeah-Buddy.

I don't think he juices.. So juice gave him that 10kgs or how ever much he gained in 2.5 years??

Loochi you aren't getting it I'm not criticizing him, I'm after motivation if anything.

Plus no offence Jigga but I've seen your journal... =/ Not tryna be a dick bro but... Yeah Lol.

I don't follow, please expand?

[Loochi]

What I'm sayin Jigga is I've read your journal and you say "I didn't eat today" and other stuff.. Even if you didn't do that and had the gear, you wouldn't make gains or look better.

And I know you're doin a hardout physics degree so I understand but I'm jus saying.

[Jigga]

What I'm sayin Jigga is I've read your journal and you say "I didn't eat today" and other stuff.. Even if you didn't do that and had the gear, you wouldn't make gains or look better.

And I know you're doin a hardout physics degree so I understand but I'm jus saying.

^PM'd

After having a look at the vid probably is achievable clean in 2 years. Leanness is impressive though, would have taken a bit of effort I imagine.

Agree with YB. Some guys on here are quick to make a judgement call & people should not be put on the spot about this. Either response they are going to be condemned. Nice work on your physique Josef. Some good potential coming through. Keep training & eating as you are.

Can appreciate what you are saying there. I forget how taboo it is just because I don't see anything wrong with gear. Just trying to get a feel for where my upper limit would be without taking the leap.

[JOSEF RAKICH]

Thanks for all the replys,

I have no idea at all how to multi-quote i have spent like 5 minutes trying to figure it out, and still cant see any multi-quote button? Ill try answer all questions i can remember.

- I am 5'10

- I put my hand on my heart swear on my life, my familys life that is me in both pictures before and after.

- Yes i am 100% natural

- Here is my SimplyShredded.com interview, it has some info about my diet/training http://www.simplyshredded.com/?s=josef+rakich

- No i dont have any leg pics but i will get some soon, also next time i make a vid or something i will show legs/calfs, i train my legs just like every other muscle they are not lacking or under developed by any means.

I think that was all the questions..

[Jigga]

Fucken hell you cut your sack open? Jesus.

In future if you want to multi-quote just scroll down the page in post mode and click the quote button at the top of each post you want to quote.

Keep doing what your doing you have come a long way!

[Optimass]

Height? Juice or no?

nice one ... got in there before Luigi

[drizzt]

Phwoar, awesome transformation mate. Looking great (nohomo) :nod:

Some of those guys in the under 180lbs have absolutely shredded legs :shock:

[Mrbig]

bro dont lie youve juiced before nobody adds 50kg to their squat in 2 weeks

Ive watched your progress for the last 2 years dont bullshit

if im wrong sorry but i was told from one of your mates you were taking shit

[Loochi]

What are you talking about MrBig..?

[Mrbig]

the OP has juiced before wasnt talking bout you bro

[Outkast]

So everyone thats got a bit of muscle has used steroids :roll:

You cant just throw that out there

I know natural guys that are big as and ripped up to the shit house you would swear that they were juicing if you seen them however theyre not!

Training & nutrition alone can do wonders!

So many people are quick to say that guy this guy and that guy is on steroids Mrbig have you seen this guy stick a needle in his ass?

NO!! Thought so...

[Outkast]

Awesome progress btw!

[Mrbig]

So everyone thats got a bit of muscle has used steroids :roll:

You cant just throw that out there

I know natural guys that are big as and ripped up to the shit house you would swear that they were juicing if you seen them however theyre not!

Training & nutrition alone can do wonders!

So many people are quick to say that guy this guy and that guy is on steroids Mrbig have you seen this guy stick a needle in his ass?

NO!! Thought so...

bro he did like 1 cycle of dbol over a year ago gained no size just got strong quick 1 week bearly squatting 100kg next bang 150kg if that aint gear then I want his protein powder to add 50kg to my squat in a couple weeks some guys need to watch who they talk to in the gym especially when their are cops training at his gym

[JOSEF RAKICH]

bro dont lie youve juiced before nobody adds 50kg to their squat in 2 weeks

Ive watched your progress for the last 2 years dont bullshit

if im wrong sorry but i was told from one of your mates you were taking shit

Lol..

Do you go to my gym? what is the name of my mate(s) who told you this?

And yes you are wrong, i have never taken anything i am 100% natty.

[Yeah-Buddy]

bro he did like 1 cycle of dbol over a year ago gained no size just got strong quick 1 week bearly squatting 100kg next bang 150kg if that aint gear then I want his protein powder to add 50kg to my squat in a couple weeks some guys need to watch who they talk to in the gym especially when their are cops training at his gym

All your doing is coming across as a hater. Lets say for arguements sake he has/is on gear.. so what he still looks better than you!

Just suck up your jelousy and give credit where credit is due.

[Mrbig]

bro he did like 1 cycle of dbol over a year ago gained no size just got strong quick 1 week bearly squatting 100kg next bang 150kg if that aint gear then I want his protein powder to add 50kg to my squat in a couple weeks some guys need to watch who they talk to in the gym especially when their are cops training at his gym

All your doing is coming across as a hater. Lets say for arguements sake he has/is on gear.. so what he still looks better than you!

Just suck up your jelousy and give credit where credit is due.

I never said he looked bad did I just that he tried shit from what I was told and this was over a year ago I was just surprised he got so strong so quick for such a little dude then after a few more weeks back to lifting little weights hate liers thats all no need to bullshit if he took gear or not and how do you know what I look like do you know me NO

[Yeah-Buddy]

bro he did like 1 cycle of dbol over a year ago gained no size just got strong quick 1 week bearly squatting 100kg next bang 150kg if that aint gear then I want his protein powder to add 50kg to my squat in a couple weeks some guys need to watch who they talk to in the gym especially when their are cops training at his gym

All your doing is coming across as a hater. Lets say for arguements sake he has/is on gear.. so what he still looks better than you!

Just suck up your jelousy and give credit where credit is due.

I never said he looked bad did I just that he tried shit from what I was told and this was over a year ago I was just surprised he got so strong so quick for such a little dude then after a few more weeks back to lifting little weights hate liers thats all no need to bullshit if he took gear or not and how do you know what I look like do you know me NO

Ok if you look better than him then post up a pic and I will apologise. And as for guys who lie about using.. they are simply just not stupid enough to admit they use gear when posting a pic online.. after all would you admit an illegal activity with your photo and name plastered on the net? I doubt it!

[Mrbig]

All your doing is coming across as a hater. Lets say for arguements sake he has/is on gear.. so what he still looks better than you!

Just suck up your jelousy and give credit where credit is due.

I never said he looked bad did I just that he tried shit from what I was told and this was over a year ago I was just surprised he got so strong so quick for such a little dude then after a few more weeks back to lifting little weights hate liers thats all no need to bullshit if he took gear or not and how do you know what I look like do you know me NO

Ok if you look better than him then post up a pic and I will apologise. And as for guys who lie about using.. they are simply just not stupid enough to admit they use gear when posting a pic online.. after all would you admit an illegal activity with your photo and name plastered on the net? I doubt it!

haha never saw that coming lol put your pic up you seem so concerned about how I look lets see how you shape up I live a private life im not guna be posting up pics of myself to make you happy I dont even know you so what do I care what you think

[Yeah-Buddy]

I never said he looked bad did I just that he tried shit from what I was told and this was over a year ago I was just surprised he got so strong so quick for such a little dude then after a few more weeks back to lifting little weights hate liers thats all no need to bullshit if he took gear or not and how do you know what I look like do you know me NO

Ok if you look better than him then post up a pic and I will apologise. And as for guys who lie about using.. they are simply just not stupid enough to admit they use gear when posting a pic online.. after all would you admit an illegal activity with your photo and name plastered on the net? I doubt it!

haha never saw that coming lol put your pic up you seem so concerned about how I look lets see how you shape up I live a private life im not guna be posting up pics of myself to make you happy I dont even know you so what do I care what you think

Im not the one implying i look better than he does, im also not the one hating on the guy and going on about how hes been on the juice and of course thats why he looks like he does :roll:

I dont look as good as this guy and I would never claim to.. not many people would have his level of conditioning.. regardless of drug use.

[jimjim83]

Everybody is on gear if you ask me. It makes it easier to justify my flaws.

He is

He isnt

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Who gives a f*ck.

[Yeah-Buddy]

Everybody is on gear if you ask me. It makes it easier to justify my flaws.

He is

He isnt

He is

He isnt

He is

He isnt

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He isnt

Who gives a f*ck.

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[haakuturi]

Everybody is on gear if you ask me. It makes it easier to justify my flaws.

He is

He isnt

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He isnt

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He isnt

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Who gives a f*ck.

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[JOSEF RAKICH]

I never said he looked bad did I just that he tried shit from what I was told and this was over a year ago I was just surprised he got so strong so quick for such a little dude then after a few more weeks back to lifting little weights hate liers thats all no need to bullshit if he took gear or not and how do you know what I look like do you know me NO

Told by who that i tried shit?

I am completly 100% natural i dont know how to tell you apart from tell you that i am natural, i guess you just have to take my word for it. I put my hand on my heart swear on my life, my familys life that i 100% natural. I would be open about it if i was on the juice, but im not.

[nzmusclemonster]

solid natural physique.