protein

[Jeffrey]

How do I work out how many gms of protein I should drink per day?

[runveerun]

see your other post TFB answered this: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8169&p=166049#p166049

[TheGus]

And you should definately be eating more protein than you're drinking

[EMC]

40-60 grams morning when you wake up

40-60 grams before your workout as a light protein source that wont interfere with your training (digestion)

40-60 grams post workout

everyother time is useless as you want slow digesting proteins calories that are full of macronutirents.

also drinking 150 grams a day of protein derived from whey reduces the BV (biological value) of the protein reduced. because its whey it digests so rapidly(in water) that its BV gets reduced even more thats why you really only need it in the morning and post workout when your tank is empty. pre workout is optional you can eat whatever you want really.

[Beef]

i wouldn't worry about protein too much unless you're a vegetarian or whatever, as long as you're eating 6 small meals a day you should be getting an adequate amount.

a couple cheap(ish) sources of protein:

1) Milk

2) Canned Fish

IMO 100-150g of protein per day is plenty- remember that you need carbs and fats as well as protein to build muscle. posting up your current diet would help you

[Thunderhorse]

because its whey it digests so rapidly

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_nutrition/the_top_10_post_workout_nutrition_myths;jsessionid=55FF28194AE6E85F7E63F12DD034CEDD.hydra

"8. Whey is a "fast" protein, ideal for post workout.

Back when it first came out, whey protein was pretty kick ass because it was discovered to be very high quality. Then research came out that made it even more kick ass, because we could classify it as a "fast" digesting protein compared to casein (Boirie et al., 1997).

You know what? This research stands today, because compared to casein, whey protein really is fast! Then again, a tortoise is also fast compared to a snail, but that doesn’t mean we want to take a tortoise to a greyhound park. In other words, we’ve been considering whey a "fast" protein only because we’ve been comparing it to something incredibly slow. When we compare the digestibility of whey to the gold standard of amino acids, on which we base nearly all of our post workout nutritional data, whey flat out sucks.

This is incredibly frustrating because all of the ways to maximize protein synthesis we’ve been discussing have used amino acids. So we need to either use pure amino acids or use something that closely resembles their absorptive properties. This is where whey protein hydrolysate comes in. The protein is already broken up into large peptides, so we get a rapid absorption with peak levels reaching the blood at around 80 minutes (Calbet and MacLean, 2002), compared to 60 minutes for pharmaceutical grade amino acids (Borsheim et al., 2002).

Unfortunately, even the highly touted whey isolate is completely useless for our timing purposes here, because it just takes too long to get taken up by the gut (Dangin et al., 2002). This is all discussed in more detail in the official product review of Surge, complete with graphs of blood amino acid profiles: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459463

In light of these data and the growing body of literature contradicting the versatility and usefulness of whey protein, it should henceforth be classified as "moderate" or "intermediate" speed protein, with only whey hydrolysate and amino acids existing as truly "fast."

It may be difficult to adjust our thinking, but this is simply more dogma that needs to be destroyed in order to bring us up to date with the proper application of research."