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Yes it would be a great idea for NZ to do similar thing, our sport is small yet they squabble like little girls over doing each others comps. I say go forward and further our sport , have real prizes, have all the best competitors onstage against each other,shows anyone can compete, only the best judges so try limit politics :):) they can do it in Australia we should be able to as well :)

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Easy tiger! Looks like someone has put his head to good use and drummed up a few sponsors, amassed some good prizes, and created an invitational. Is it just me or would something like this take off in NZ? Given the right support that is.

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Yes it would be a great idea for NZ to do similar thing, our sport is small yet they squabble like little girls over doing each others comps. I say go forward and further our sport , have real prizes, have all the best competitors onstage against each other,shows anyone can compete, only the best judges so try limit politics :):) they can do it in Australia we should be able to as well :)

The fact the sport is small means cash prizes would probably not be possible, and would jeopardise the amateur status of some competitors. However the 'supplement sponsorships', electronic goods donated by sponsors would be very viable.

In the recent ifbb Victoria Champs, Sam Pappas walked away with a home entertainment package worth $5000! That comp was well attended by both competitors and spectators, just as the recent NZFBB nationals were. I don't see why a little pro-activity couldn't happen here, and in turn may give a little more incentive to compete!

####Waldo pulls his thinking cap on, and has a few ideas!####

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Aiming for decent prizes would be great as alot time the little plastic trophies don't quite live up to all the hard work and $$ put into it. Our industry has lots $$ , supplement companies , large gyms, NZFBB gets government $$. Prizes such as the entertainment system would be great. I still think more $$ needs to be put into getting more people into the sport even at high school level , alot students train for rugby , soccer , athletics why not bodybuilding. Aim to get people into the sport younger then they will be there for life :)

Yes it would be a great idea for NZ to do similar thing, our sport is small yet they squabble like little girls over doing each others comps. I say go forward and further our sport , have real prizes, have all the best competitors onstage against each other,shows anyone can compete, only the best judges so try limit politics :):) they can do it in Australia we should be able to as well :)

The fact the sport is small means cash prizes would probably not be possible, and would jeopardise the amateur status of some competitors. However the 'supplement sponsorships', electronic goods donated by sponsors would be very viable.

In the recent ifbb Victoria Champs, Sam Pappas walked away with a home entertainment package worth $5000! That comp was well attended by both competitors and spectators, just as the recent NZFBB nationals were. I don't see why a little pro-activity couldn't happen here, and in turn may give a little more incentive to compete!

####Waldo pulls his thinking cap on, and has a few ideas!####

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one way to get more money into the sport and sposorship is to bring people with a real vested financial interest into the sponsorship. i.e sup shop owners running things. they would be wanting to get cheap advertising and sponsor ship would do this. unfortunately if it came down to entertainment systems I can't see eastern hifi giving any comp a cheap or free system no matter how much their name is splattered over the posters.

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one way to get more money into the sport and sposorship is to bring people with a real vested financial interest into the sponsorship. i.e sup shop owners running things. they would be wanting to get cheap advertising and sponsor ship would do this. unfortunately if it came down to entertainment systems I can't see eastern hifi giving any comp a cheap or free system no matter how much their name is splattered over the posters.

The shops won't come to the party as retail IMO is too fragmented in this country. The Interent retailers, barring a few, wouldn't have the dosh to do so anyways.

Supplement manufacturers on the other hand have every reason to offer prizes like year-long endorsements, as it's a quid-pro-quo arrangement with who-ever wins the endorsement. The athlete gets a helping hand in an otherwise expensive sport, and the supp company gets exposure thru said athlete.

Posters aren't the only form of advertising either for a comp like this. There are other methods, just look at the industry surronding Olympia weekend. By the way, does anyone wonder why our National Bodybuilding Champs weren't even covered by any TV station, or have any results/articles in the papers?

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Where is all the money going at the moment it is not exactly cheap to go along and watch a show to enter there are all sorts of fees. I guess when the yachties in the americas cup struggle for sponsorship and they are really high profile what chance does bbing have.

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one way to get more money into the sport and sposorship is to bring people with a real vested financial interest into the sponsorship. i.e sup shop owners running things. they would be wanting to get cheap advertising and sponsor ship would do this. unfortunately if it came down to entertainment systems I can't see eastern hifi giving any comp a cheap or free system no matter how much their name is splattered over the posters.

The shops won't come to the party as retail IMO is too fragmented in this country. The Interent retailers, barring a few, wouldn't have the dosh to do so anyways.

Supplement manufacturers on the other hand have every reason to offer prizes like year-long endorsements, as it's a quid-pro-quo arrangement with who-ever wins the endorsement. The athlete gets a helping hand in an otherwise expensive sport, and the supp company gets exposure thru said athlete.

Posters aren't the only form of advertising either for a comp like this. There are other methods, just look at the industry surronding Olympia weekend. By the way, does anyone wonder why our National Bodybuilding Champs weren't even covered by any TV station, or have any results/articles in the papers?

its pretty obvious why they are not covered. there is just not enough mainstream interest to warrent sending tv crews etc

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one way to get more money into the sport and sposorship is to bring people with a real vested financial interest into the sponsorship. i.e sup shop owners running things. they would be wanting to get cheap advertising and sponsor ship would do this. unfortunately if it came down to entertainment systems I can't see eastern hifi giving any comp a cheap or free system no matter how much their name is splattered over the posters.

The shops won't come to the party as retail IMO is too fragmented in this country. The Interent retailers, barring a few, wouldn't have the dosh to do so anyways.

Supplement manufacturers on the other hand have every reason to offer prizes like year-long endorsements, as it's a quid-pro-quo arrangement with who-ever wins the endorsement. The athlete gets a helping hand in an otherwise expensive sport, and the supp company gets exposure thru said athlete.

Posters aren't the only form of advertising either for a comp like this. There are other methods, just look at the industry surronding Olympia weekend. By the way, does anyone wonder why our National Bodybuilding Champs weren't even covered by any TV station, or have any results/articles in the papers?

its pretty obvious why they are not covered. there is just not enough mainstream interest to warrent sending tv crews etc

In a word. Ratings

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at the nationals we were told that tv3 were going to be there to get some footage. as for the shops I reckon that Mushashi and miada would be pretty keen to through some real sponsorship $ at the sport as you said for exposure to the industry etc.

I think the money is going into paying off the overdraft, which surprised me when it was mentioned that a team might be put together to send around the world. I reckon they should concentrate more on spending the money in NZ develope the sport and then look at sending one or two people over seas to represent

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The shops won't come to the party as retail IMO is too fragmented in this country. The Interent retailers, barring a few, wouldn't have the dosh to do so anyways.

Supplement manufacturers on the other hand have every reason to offer prizes like year-long endorsements, as it's a quid-pro-quo arrangement with who-ever wins the endorsement. The athlete gets a helping hand in an otherwise expensive sport, and the supp company gets exposure thru said athlete.

Posters aren't the only form of advertising either for a comp like this. There are other methods, just look at the industry surronding Olympia weekend. By the way, does anyone wonder why our National Bodybuilding Champs weren't even covered by any TV station, or have any results/articles in the papers?

its pretty obvious why they are not covered. there is just not enough mainstream interest to warrent sending tv crews etc

In a word. Ratings

Correction. A two minute slot on the sports news is easy enough to get, and doesn't have any bearing on a one hour news broadcast's ratings. An obscure cycling race the day before got two minutes, and that wasn't even a national level event.

As I stated as well, there was no result/reporting in the Herald.

Having been closely associated with sport/event management for a while, I have a fair idea how these things work. I just wish those at the top end of the sport would utilise the tools that are at hand.

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Especially during the weekend, when the comps are held, newsrooms are often searching for enough stories to fill a bulletin. This is when we get the fluffy kitten stories pulled in off the shelf (despite the fact they were filmed weeks ago). :P

The weekend bulletins often has a sports segment that's longer than the "main" news section, too. So there's plenty of room for a story on bodybuilding.

My gripe is that when TV does cover bodybuilding shows, they invariably focus on women's bodybuilding, because this is what draws the biggest audience response. Unfortunately, this response is not usually the kind that's going to grow competitor numbers.

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Problem is they're always going to take the BBers are freaks angle because that's the way most people see it. Even I was a bit weirded out by the whole competition scene. From an outsiders point of view it's a bizarre thing to do, so I can't see tv getting interested in it from anything other than a "look at these freaks" viewpoint.

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Email from Jo and Mark Stewart...

Hi Andrew, the tv crew was there. Mark had arranged it long ago. TV3 turned up and where there to film the juniors and the Masters Men. However, they stayed for 10 mins then were called away. Clint Brown was under the impression that they were staying for the entirity of the event as Mark was under that impression also. It was only brought to light today when Mark got a call from Howard Dobson. TV3 are now picking up footage from Keith Jolly and using it for the news, when they do this we not know but I will advise you as soon as we have been notified.

There are always two sides to every story and some are not always obvious to the public. The NZFBB had the results published on the Monday on the website and pictures have been up since Tuesday. We are now focusing on profiling each individual winner of the Nationals Classes. We are trying to keep everybody happy.

regards, Jo.

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It's easy enough to get interest from sports news, it just depends on the day & what else is on that weekend. I worked in TVNZ sports for a bit & we covered a lot of events that originated from someone calling up.

They're always looking for feature stories as well for when the day's sports news is a bit thin.

I would expect them to cover the nationals if they were made aware.

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