My first serious cut

[holdenman]

Did 30mins on the xtrainer, interval training. 500cals in 30mins, felt like spewing after.

That's how it should always be :nod:

Just the thought of doing any kind of cardio makes me feel like spewing :pfft:

[HaNs]

been reading thru yr log man, making some gains keep at it

3 scrambled eggs and cheese

may i suggest adding some egg white loving in the mix to get that xtra protein content

Thanks

Yeh i split lunch with someone else today and they didnt want just egg whites :roll:

Egg whites for breakfast though :grin:

Going to load with Creatine over the next 3-4 days, 20g per day(split into 5g doses) then drop back to 2-4g per day next week. Will see what happens. Dont mind if a bloat as im not going into a comp, just want to get BF down so i can see my abs(i know they are in there!)

20kg sack of WPC should be here next week.

Prob will grab some Mitotropin from BB.com, only $55 nz to my door. $46 if i buy 3...but yeh...3....

[HaNs]

Did 30mins on the xtrainer, interval training. 500cals in 30mins, felt like spewing after.

That's how it should always be :nod:

Just the thought of doing any kind of cardio makes me feel like spewing :pfft:

Yeh i hate it, gyms so hot now. Better get back to mornings again.

Ok monday will be back to mornings!

[HaNs]

Not much change, didnt expect any.

Going to stick in some epic cardio next week :shifty:

[HaNs]

10am(sleep in much?)

3 egg whites

banana

1pm

panini filled with veg and meat

can of tuna

green tea

4.30 pre work out

chicken leg

wtf pump'd

straight coffee

Creatine

6.30pm

Creatine

30g WPI

7.30

steak

veg

Spent the arvo fixing up electric fences so was quite tired before my work out

5 min high rpm x trainer

5 min high rpm bike(havent been on in ages! got off it and it felt like id just done a set of leg presses!!!)

Standing curls(wobbly bar)- all + bar weight, slow neg's - 15kg - 15kg -20kg - 20kg/15kg

Forearm standing curl things - 7.5(i think?)- 7.5 - 7.5

Alternate Incline Dumbbell Curl (turned into hammer curls :shifty:) 10kg(per side) - 10kg - 10kg

Seated Triceps Press - 15kg -17.5 - 17.5

Tri pull down- 30kg - 36 kg - 36/30kg

Tri's where sore from yesterday and being on a shovel for 10mins today didnt help

Think i will start doing more bike work...need to eat more sludge also

[becbec]

To be honest, I think you're eating way too many carbs to be cutting

[HaNs]

To be honest, I think you're eating way too many carbs to be cutting

What should i cut out then?

Got chicken stocked up in the fridge today

[becbec]

Have you read anything about carb cycling or the CHA diet? Take a look in Chillicat's journal for more information on that and in Vee's journal for the CHA diet.

Carb cycling is based on many low carb days followed by some medium carb days and then high carb days (this fools your body).

The CHA diet is a low carb, high good fats and high protein diet.

First of all oaties are loaded with sugar from the fruit they put in them, just eat the plain ones or mix them into your protein shake.

I'd be cutting out carbs after about 3pm unless they are pre-workout carbs, 1/2 a cup of veges is ok.

Try to stick to high protein meats such as chicken and fish. Bacon is high in fat and high in sodium.

Something else that could be holding you back is larger portion meals at dinner compared with the rest of your meals during the day.

Those protein bars and protein cookies aren't actually that great for you either.

The panini isn't good for you either, it's all white flour and has f all nutrients

[HaNs]

Have you read anything about carb cycling or the CHA diet? Take a look in Chillicat's journal for more information on that and in Vee's journal for the CHA diet.

Carb cycling is based on many low carb days followed by some medium carb days and then high carb days (this fools your body).

The CHA diet is a low carb, high good fats and high protein diet.

First of all oaties are loaded with sugar from the fruit they put in them, just eat the plain ones or mix them into your protein shake.

I'd be cutting out carbs after about 3pm unless they are pre-workout carbs, 1/2 a cup of veges is ok.

Try to stick to high protein meats such as chicken and fish. Bacon is high in fat and high in sodium.

Something else that could be holding you back is larger portion meals at dinner compared with the rest of your meals during the day.

Those protein bars and protein cookies aren't actually that great for you either.

The panini isn't good for you either, it's all white flour and has f all nutrients

Will read more about CHA

Otaies(or how ever they spell it) have 1g per 100g of sugar, so do what your calling "normal" oats aka harraways oats. As per our MSN chat. Not sure if you actually know which oaties im eating...they have the same amount of sugar so thats all im worried about

Bar and cookies where used up last week on Targa(you wouldn't understand how hard it was to get protein through out the day). Weight restrictions so i could lug around PP and food.

What put weight loss on hold was eating on targa and there is nothing i could have done about it.

My portions are not big either.

Pinini was a one off.

Wait and week and another kg will be gone as long as i stay on track :wink:

[HaNs]

Going to weigh in at 10pm and try and knock of a 1kg this week, should be easy.

New goal date is end of December, sub 80kgs. Should be able to get to 78kgs or less. But there is a trip to Melbourne for a week thrown in there and going Nelson for the new year.

[holdenman]

To be honest, I think you're eating way too many carbs to be cutting

Really? Doesnt look like a lot of carbs at all to me. Maybe you needa make sure that the carbs you do eat are quality ones though..

Whats your reasoning for using creatine during a cut? Not worried about bloating/water retention?

[HaNs]

To be honest, I think you're eating way too many carbs to be cutting

Really? Doesnt look like a lot of carbs at all to me. Maybe you needa make sure that the carbs you do eat are quality ones though..

Whats your reasoning for using creatine during a cut? Not worried about bloating/water retention?

Yeh good carbs, not shit ones :oops: , but im only human. Lucky id dint post up what i ate last week :pfft:

Not worried about bloat, i plan on doing a short cycle and see what happens. I think i will be able to stop using it in a few weeks and get rid of the bloat.

Just finished reading about carb cycling, think i will go back to week one of this journal and copy the diet as it seemed to work for me. May carb cycle later on. Will see.

Better go marinate that chicken now(just herbs and spices)

[HaNs]

84.8kg

[HaNs]

CBF posting eats today, the usual with but minimal carbs after breakfast

2 x 60sec bridges(straight back) and 100 crunches today

Cardio first thing in the morning.

[HaNs]

Crap lot of cardio this morning at 7.45am. Woke up with a head ache but dragged my sorry arse to the gym and did 15mins xtrainer and 5 mins on the bike, just couldnt get into it today!

Cardio and chest in the morning.

[HaNs]

Oh and im sick of sludge...better find some low cal things to add to it.

[HaNs]

7.45am

30g WPI

9am

oat's

10am

chicken

11am

chicken and kumra

12

nuts + PB

1.30

protein + oats + coco(baked)

3

same as 1.30

6 dont know yet

Been consuming green tea and grapefruit also

Did 20mins on the xtrainer

DB press 15kg(each side) 15kg 15kg - decline 15kg - sucked, should be pushing 20kgs but couldnt today...gah

DB flys 7.5kg(each side) 7.5kg 7.5kg 7.5kg - sucked again, should get to 10kg

Seated press 45kg 45kg 50kg 50kg/45kg drop set

Thats all i had time for

weight is on target 8)

[two_phat]

how come your using your creatine on your cut? I just don't know how it will help you see your abs (the dream of every man).

[HaNs]

how come your using your creatine on your cut? I just don't know how it will help you see your abs (the dream of every man).

Wont see abs until xmas anyway. Was just seeing if i felt any difference from it and i can say i dont feel any difference now. Will be cutting it out next week and the bloat should go.

[HaNs]

Well there goes this weeks weight goal, bye bye. How low will it get though? *makes evil sounds*

Cardio in the morning annnnnnnnnnnd squats/legs

[Mr_Krabs]

Theres nothing wrong with using creatine while cutting, sure it may make you retain a little water (~1-2kg) but it also helps you preserve a bit of your pre-diet strength.

After all its the fat we are trying to drop here not just numbers on the scale.

[HaNs]

Theres nothing wrong with using creatine while cutting, sure it may make you retain a little water (~1-2kg) but it also helps you preserve a bit of your pre-diet strength.

After all its the fat we are trying to drop here not just numbers on the scale.

My thoughts also

[HaNs]

Yesterday was a day off

This morning was 15mins cardio and bi's, tri's and fore arms. Had minimal energy for cardio.

CBF posting work out or meals.

Next pic @ 80kgs

[steak]

good to see you making some progress :clap: ...have you tried.. say 45mins slots of cardio 6-7 times a week....make it fasted if you can eg: pre breakfast Vary it with HIIT but keep the 45 mins thing going consistently...15mins on a Xtrainer aint gonna do jack

[HaNs]

good to see you making some progress :clap: ...have you tried.. say 45mins slots of cardio 6-7 times a week....make it fasted if you can eg: pre breakfast Vary it with HIIT but keep the 45 mins thing going consistently...15mins on a Xtrainer aint gonna do jack

Yeh i should be doing way more cardio, TBH i dont have any energy while doing cardio at the moment. Works been stressful, need some early nights also. Think its a weekend of physical farm work, that should burn some cals.

I do all cardio pre breakfast now. Its all HIIT. 45mins sat morning on the xtrainer...here we goooooooooooooooo. Need to more music to listen to at the gym.

Chicken time