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Awesomeness, i love this advice. :D Protein shakes are freakin inconvenient when your always on the go. Tuna cans it is!

Have something else as well, if you were planning on whey and milk, maybe a carb source or whatever. Up to you though.

Calculating cals, check this thread. It has like a spreadsheet and stuff, but read the posts about the different formulas too.

P.S. 2573.33 cals is not over the top, for maintenance. Your activity level is high. I feel that people have a tendency to UNDERESTIMATE their calorie requirements, to their detriment.

If it were me, I'd START on 1900 calories and adjust if required. You don't need a huge calorie deficit. Huge deficits are just counter productive - they make you fall off the wagon and/or burn out.

I totally agree, it quite different for men and women, men can stuff their faces with anything and it doesn't matter, we store fat. The bestest way to get rid of it is eating enough calories, if you eat too little your body will store the fat just in case! As Rose said even start on 1900 cal, which you WILL lose weight with. If you eat more you will be able to do more at the gym etc too!

2100 is my magic number I actually feel really good eating that amount, it's just enough I am never hungry with this amount.

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2100 is my magic number I actually feel really good eating that amount, it's just enough I am never hungry with this amount.

Can you post what your activity level is like, cardio/walking/gym etc, and how long each is, roughly? To give us an idea... I find that people never believe you re eating enough to lose fat, because they're scared of getting fat etc.

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2100 is my magic number I actually feel really good eating that amount, it's just enough I am never hungry with this amount.

Can you post what your activity level is like, cardio/walking/gym etc, and how long each is, roughly? To give us an idea... I find that people never believe you re eating enough to lose fat, because they're scared of getting fat etc.

I don't do any cardio :oops: I walk to work and back again which is 20mins.

I do 5x5 three times a week and GPP 3 times a week. I'm still losing fat, if I did some cardio I might speed it up! BUT I want to gain muscle more than losing fat ATM. Actually I haven't done any cardio since November marathon effort 8) I haven't put on any fat, in fact I have been losing it :grin:

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I don't do any cardio :oops: I walk to work and back again which is 20mins.

I do 5x5 three times a week and GPP 3 times a week. I'm still losing fat, if I did some cardio I might speed it up! BUT I want to gain muscle more than losing fat ATM. Actually I haven't done any cardio since November marathon effort 8) I haven't put on any fat, in fact I have been losing it :grin:

How long do your trains take Vee? And how long is GPP, in mins?

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I don't do any cardio :oops: I walk to work and back again which is 20mins.

I do 5x5 three times a week and GPP 3 times a week. I'm still losing fat, if I did some cardio I might speed it up! BUT I want to gain muscle more than losing fat ATM. Actually I haven't done any cardio since November marathon effort 8) I haven't put on any fat, in fact I have been losing it :grin:

How long do your trains take Vee? And how long is GPP, in mins?

5x5 is 40min to 60 min max, GPP usually 30mins to 40 mins max

With 5x5 I do one day light, one medium and one heavy. I rest 30sec to a min between sets depending if I need to go to the water fountain or change the tune on my ipod!

GPP is more strengthening grip, core and glutes work so not as intense as the weights.

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Have something else as well, if you were planning on whey and milk, maybe a carb source or whatever. Up to you though.

Hmm alrighty, perhaps the Tuna on corn thins then.

Calculating cals, check this thread. It has like a spreadsheet and stuff, but read the posts about the different formulas too.

P.S. 2573.33 cals is not over the top, for maintenance. Your activity level is high. I feel that people have a tendency to underestimate their calorie requirements, to their detriment.

If it were me, I'd start on 1900 calories and adjust if required. You don't need a huge calorie deficit. Huge deficits are just counter productive - they make you fall off the wagon and/or burn out. Either exercise less or eat more. My 2 cents.

Cheers for the links Rose. According to all the forumula's I should be eating around 2300+ on workout days, so 1900 seems okay. I guess i could add around 400 pretty easily. Maybe just split my main 3 meals into 5 smaller ones a day .......or just eat an extra large chocolate bar a day =P~ (if only it worked like that...).

I think my obbsession with the 1500cal figure came from when i was losing my main weight, i put my success down to the fact that i was anal to never go over this figure daily and just trusted it was all a numbers game. That being said i always ate when i was truly hungry and it still seemed to work out okay. But i don't know, maybe i was wrong, or maybe that only applies when you have shitloads to loose. Meh.. :shrug: Anywho i'll stop being so strict on myself and we'll see what happens....

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maybe that only applies when you have shitloads to loose.

I believe that to be correct.

Anywho i'll stop being so strict on myself and we'll see what happens....

You won't get fat overnight so if you do find 1900 is too high, adjust downwards a little bit more :)

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maybe that only applies when you have shitloads to loose.

I believe that to be correct.

Be SO much easier if it was that way still.

You won't get fat overnight so if you do find 1900 is too high, adjust downwards a little bit more :)

I swear i do get fat overnight sometimes, like i feel today. :shock: :( But then the next day is normally fine.

Anyway, moving on to what i should be using this journal for and haven't for quite some time...Week One of new workout is now Complete. :D

The reason for the delay in posting my workouts is I have been playing around rather obsessivly creating a spreadsheet to track them in excel, and haven't really been happy with it till now. But then i realized theres no real way i can just copy and paste each day's workout from excel into here (i don't think), so for now i'll just have to post it as a picture attached. I will do it daily though, hopefully, normally.... and may start including diet so i am accountable to at least someone/s. :doh:

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maybe that only applies when you have shitloads to loose.

I believe that to be correct.

Be SO much easier if it was that way still.

AMEN to that... :nod:

Nice work on the spreadsheet - how're you calculating calories for weights, with a HRM?

I had been thinking that there should be a way to make a little tool, perhaps in SQL, that would customise spreadsheets like that....

Those weights are impressive too, some good work going on. Do you have a plan to try to push the boundaries, 5x5 style, with small increases?

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I had been thinking that there should be a way to make a little tool, perhaps in SQL, that would customise spreadsheets like that....

I've considered such, but unfortunately I'm an even lazier coder than I am a writer. Which is saying something.

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Nice work on the spreadsheet - how're you calculating calories for weights, with a HRM?

Yup I was using a HRM.

I had been thinking that there should be a way to make a little tool, perhaps in SQL, that would customise spreadsheets like that....

That would indeed be handy.... I'm sure there is one out there in google-land already though, surely.

Those weights are impressive too, some good work going on. Do you have a plan to try to push the boundaries, 5x5 style, with small increases?

I had planned on that., yeah.. umm.....didn't quite work out that way.

:shifty: Hmmm responding to posts over 2 months later- what a fail. Sorry journal....I'm still alive. ish.

I really am quite embarassed at my recent nzbb and overall training neglect. I don't have an excuse because I don't believe in them, but lately prioritization has meant some non-vital things have had to get the axe. I guess doing double recc courseload and working half a fulltime job is inevitably going effect my focus, so I'll just have to deal with it this year (thank god its the last). I'm still gymming 5-6 times a week but not with the focus or intensity I normally would have (and doing probably far too much cardio, when i think about it). Plus my recent diet leaves alot to be desired, but we won't go there. :?

As for my 5x5 programme, it went fine for a couple of weeks and then I pretty much just ended up doing whatever i could fit in time wise. :doh: Perhaps i should adopt a new time-strapped programme to give me the most bang for my buck and stop being so ambitious in what i want to achieve daily at the gym. I don't know...

Anyway I hope everyone in hardcore-motivated-exercise-obbsessed-land is all good. Oh, i spose I should say "I hope your (all) well"... or something...

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Sorry journal....I'm still alive. ish.

Crikey, look who it is - nice to see you haven't been buried under piles of paper entirely!

lately prioritization has meant some non-vital things have had to get the axe.

Journals - less important than the training... and that kept on going.. lesser folks would have stopped entirely so well done!

I'm still gymming 5-6 times a week but not with the focus or intensity I normally would have (and doing probably far too much cardio, when i think about it).
Hmmmm.... why the cardio?
As for my 5x5 programme, it went fine for a couple of weeks and then I pretty much just ended up doing whatever i could fit in time wise. :doh: Perhaps i should adopt a new time-strapped programme to give me the most bang for my buck and stop being so ambitious in what i want to achieve daily at the gym. I don't know...

Um, my 2c worth... have you considered an AM/PM split ? Do half a workout before work, half after ? I did that for a while - it was a six-days/week programme, two three-day rotas. So, leg day was hams/calves AM, Quads PM, the first rota and quad AM/etc the second time around. Each WO was only half an hour or so...and at the very least when life intervened and I ended up missing one, the impact was halved.

But whatever you do, don't give up the big ambitions...there'll be time for that later, much much later :nod: You've coped thus far, it's June, the academic year-end's five months away, and every day you aimed at that dream it's one day closer.

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Oh well, sometimes life gets in the way of less vital things like internet forums - but it's great to hear that you're still making time to get yourself to the gym, even if it's not exactly in the form you'd prefer.

I'm with you on the 'no excuses' thing - I reckon we all have the same number of hours in the day, and it's all about how we choose to fill them. People who say 'I don't have time' just prioritise things differently, and given all the other stuff in your life right now with study and work (which you are rightly giving your full attention right now IMO) it's understandable you can't fit us in or the luxury of a great workout every time.

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Thanks for all your support guys, you know your all awesome :nod:

I'm with you on the 'no excuses' thing - I reckon we all have the same number of hours in the day, and it's all about how we choose to fill them. People who say 'I don't have time' just prioritise things differently.

Yup your exactly right CC! How often have we heard people say "oh i just don't have time to exercise" yet you know that they would watch at least an hour of tv/partake in some other mindless entertainment a day. Its all about choices. The thing with me is that i was giving up the very little sleep i could get to exercise... which as i learned last year, is a recipe for disaster/mental and physical breakdown. When your on the treadmill at 12kmph and have a desperate need to close your eyes (and actually enjoy it when you do), you know your in trouble. :doh:

Hmmmm.... why the cardio?

Mainly because i haven''t had the focus or mental stamina to spent as much time on weights as normal lately - my mind is so drained by the time i get to the gym that just zoning out for 40-50 mins on the cross trainer seems like a far more appealing option. And also because I have been paranoid bout keeping the weight down when i feel like i'm getting slack diet wise, particually during hardcore study mode.

Um, my 2c worth... have you considered an AM/PM split ? Do half a workout before work, half after ? I did that for a while - it was a six-days/week programme, two three-day rotas. So, leg day was hams/calves AM, Quads PM, the first rota and quad AM/etc the second time around. Each WO was only half an hour or so...and at the very least when life intervened and I ended up missing one, the impact was halved.

That would be awesome, and its a great suggestion. Its just the gym is 15 mins drive from home, at least 20 from uni, and with the multiple jobs i juggle in combination with my strange uni timetable, just getting there once a day is a big enough mission. One day though i hope to find the time to seperate out my cardio from my weights - i.e go for a run in the morn and do weights in the evening. One day....

But whatever you do, don't give up the big ambitions...there'll be time for that later, much much later :nod: You've coped thus far, it's June, the academic year-end's five months away, and every day you aimed at that dream it's one day closer.

Thanks for your encouragement TFB :) Your very much right. The end is nigh. I can continue to make small gains slowly and at the very least i will just have to make sure i don't slip backwards, but i think thats very much do-able, considering how far i've come.

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Thanks girls, I missed you guys and your wonderfully motivating support too! :nod:

I graduated uni and moved to Auckland a year ago and since then have not had any proper training plan or direction. I have moved flats five times in 8 months ( due to Insane flatmates, such as those who dont allow cooking in their house) and have intermittently joined a few diff gyms in between, but due to so much chaos And no routine I now feel so unfit and weak. Now I finally have more stability in my life I have a real urge to get back into my awesome gym addiction, although I'm not too sure where to start now im so behind. I guess I should just start back slowly :pray: although currently having a broken big toe doesn't help. :doh:

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You know you want to get into the gym... go on!

I do i do, so very much! :nod: I actually came back to NZBB coz i was looking for my old workout plans (i've completely forgotten how i used to train). I was suprised these journals don't disappear after a year or so, so cheers NZBB :) Now i have no excuse not to start it back up again, although not half as intensely as before.

Also suprised (and impressed) to see all you NZBB regular's still as dedicated as ever, and still keeping up with your workout journals. You guys are machines! :clap:

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