Optimass

[startinfromscratch]

just to clarify opti, my original post was NOT critiquing or questioning your diet!! why would i? im here to learn off exp ppl like you..

i was just making a comparison between both our diet makeups, and a simple question. didnt intend to turn your journal into an egg-athon, my bad!

no need to hijack this journal!

[Pete_S]

What sort of eggs do you guys do? organic ...free range ... Omega ... ?/?/

normal cage layers. nearly 400 000.

Thats a lot of chicks to service

Thats where the increased test levels always come in like a treat....add a daily handfull of zinc tabs for volume :pfft:

Optimass check in with MikeD on his diet at the moment. I suspect Dave P has him on a ketosis (seems to be Dave P's big thing at the moment). Have heard mixed reviews on it from other guys Dave has recently prepped.

Be sure to up the good fats for energy as i'm sure you already know - natural peanut butter always a goodin

[ramy]

just to clarify opti, my original post was NOT critiquing or questioning your diet!! why would i? im here to learn off exp ppl like you..

i was just making a comparison between both our diet makeups, and a simple question. didnt intend to turn your journal into an egg-athon, my bad!

no need to hijack this journal!

scratch it sounds like your asking obvious questions you already know the answers to. ask why you cant perform without your carbs and how optimass does it and his diet which is right there did you read it? or my post?...and you dont need to learn off anybody infact you SHOULDNT. its good to ask for advice but do research, read article, compare foods, experiment you should never take anyones word for it ESPECIALLY when it comes to your body... i hate to be an asshole bro but you dont need to be spoon fed. bring on the flaming \:D/

[1day]

uve probly answerd this sumwere in ur hournal anyways, but are u looking at competing this yr?

[Optimass]

uve probly answerd this sumwere in ur hournal anyways, but are u looking at competing this yr?

Not this year mate - would be keen to do Outlaws show next year and will wait to see what changes / if any / from the current format in the NZFBB for 2010.

I do a lot outside of the sport - i.e two young children / career focused wife - my own career is quite demanding. I'll need a clear flight path to ensure I can bring it all together.

I'm also on the light side - so will look to do a full bulk before I confirm any possible return to show condition.

[ramy]

its funny that pete should mention zinc it reminded me of something. i have a breathing issue.i contacted my doctor and he refered me to a specialist i was prescribed zinc as he tested and said i was deficient. he prescribed 50 mg on a daily basis. i did research and discovered around 100 (cant remember the numbers but you can look it up) is really unhealthy and i know already im getting about 15 mg daily from my multi vitamin and heaps from eating heaps of dairy, meat and especially NUTS.

my doctor(g.p) said i was actaully in the midddle(average) after receiving my bloods, not low or high and ive been taking 50 mg of zinc and the body needs like 15mg a day for males youd need more if your working out for protein synthesis, but obviously with the excessive eating that is accomplished.*note i was taking 50 along with my mutli vitamin 15 and my full diet

moving onto the point this was coming from a SPECIALIST telling me i was deficient and your telling me you trust in people from nzbb.co.nz? you guys need to wake up and realise the truth if you want to grow and grow safely. dont trust anyone with your health.

i had already considered to stop taking them but i seeked approval of my g.p before actually doing this and she was confused aswell.

[Optimass]

just to clarify opti, my original post was NOT critiquing or questioning your diet!! why would i? im here to learn off exp ppl like you..

i was just making a comparison between both our diet makeups, and a simple question. didnt intend to turn your journal into an egg-athon, my bad!

no need to hijack this journal!

Everyones walking on egg shells lately :pfft: No worries not taken that way ... ask away - while you learn so do I. You can never know too much and there are always opportunities to improve (especially for me).

[1day]

Not this year mate - would be keen to do Outlaws show next year and will wait to see what changes / if any / from the current format in the NZFBB for 2010.

I do a lot outside of the sport - i.e two young children / career focused wife - my own career is quite demanding. I'll need a clear flight path to ensure I can bring it all together.

I'm also on the light side - so will look to do a full bulk before I confirm any possible return to show condition.

sweet man, good to hav sumthing otha than bb to live for ahe, cus if a serious injury cums about, ther are alot of people that would have nothing left to live for if they had to give up the sport:roll:

[startinfromscratch]

just to clarify opti, my original post was NOT critiquing or questioning your diet!! why would i? im here to learn off exp ppl like you..

i was just making a comparison between both our diet makeups, and a simple question. didnt intend to turn your journal into an egg-athon, my bad!

no need to hijack this journal!

scratch it sounds like your asking obvious questions you already know the answers to. ask why you cant perform without your carbs and how optimass does it and his diet which is right there did you read it? or my post?...and you dont need to learn off anybody infact you SHOULDNT. its good to ask for advice but do research, read article, compare foods, experiment you should never take anyones word for it ESPECIALLY when it comes to your body... i hate to be an asshole bro but you dont need to be spoon fed. bring on the flaming \:D/

WTF?

read the bold, i was drawing a comparison, im well aware of the workings of carb cycling, i wouldnt be doing it without knowing what its about would i?

im not asking him for advice, though if he gave it i wouldnt just discount it.

i was complimenting him on his ability to maintain his strength and workout performance on such a craptastic amount of carbs!

surely this puts the subject to rest, without adding another page to his journal.......................

[ramy]

i wouldnt be doing it without knowing what its about would i?

was complimenting him on his ability to maintain his strength and workout performance on such a craptastic amount of carbs!

well im confused why you sound so confused in your previous post and in regards to my post when i say you shouldnt listen to people this doenst mean everyone is wrong alot of people give good advice but it can be tweaked if you do some research and find out things between the lines that some people do not know because when you listen to people chances are they listened to people and so on. so your not 'discounting' peoples advice your marely helping yourself and you owe nothing to nobody but yourself.

[Monopoly Man]

uve probly answerd this sumwere in ur hournal anyways, but are u looking at competing this yr?

Not this year mate - would be keen to do Outlaws show next year and will wait to see what changes / if any / from the current format in the NZFBB for 2010.

Is that cos you'll be old enough to compete in the Masters by then bro? :pfft:

[Optimass]

uve probly answerd this sumwere in ur hournal anyways, but are u looking at competing this yr?

Not this year mate - would be keen to do Outlaws show next year and will wait to see what changes / if any / from the current format in the NZFBB for 2010.

Is that cos you'll be old enough to compete in the Masters by then bro? :pfft:

:pfft: I still have a few more years to go before I qualify for that division. Let's just say I plan on coming in at the upper end of the weight scale :nod:

[Optimass]

Rest day yesterday again - timing was out with work etc so took another day -

Diet is exactly the same as previous days - routine down to disciplined perfection (Diet has never been an issue for me - can switch it on and off pretty easy). Water 4L which is good.

Today I'm 115kg ... so thats a 2.5kg drop since Monday >>> But don't be alarmed as this is to be expected as no/low carbs = low glycogen stores. The benchmark will be the Monday weigh ins as tomorrow night I get to have my cheat meal and restock my body with some carbs for next week. \:D/

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LEGS today :nod:

I'm taking too much time through a leg workout so will drop my rest periods slightly - may be the low carbs not allowing me to keep focus but I need to sharpen the pencil and make sure I get through the whole workout in good time as it took 1hr 10 miuntes approx today.

Legs still strong though

Squats: 4 sets / last set failure 4 reps @ 180kg - was going to rest pause but thought better of it as I want to guage how my body is going to handle these workouts on low carbs. I still matched last week which made me

Leg Press: 4 sets / last set failure 6 reps @ 450kg - wasn't happy about not getting the last two reps :evil: but still a productive set.

Leg Extensions: Not my fav exercise but I had taken a bit of time getting through my compounds I thought I'd throw 2 quick sets in as a consolation.

Concentration Leg Curls > 4 sets : last set failure 12 reps @100lbs.

Leg Raises 2 sets 25 > on the hoist machine.

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Pleased with that effort and didn't need a box of tissues and a cuddle like Android halfway through the workout :pfft: (Just kidding big fella :wink: - cramps are a bitch, especially abdominal cramps). I would normally add in 2 - 3 sets of lunges or romanian deadlifts or good mornings at this point but as stated above time got away with me.

Tomorrow back into chest - no shoulders this week/ has been a regular theme so I am going to change my rotation to Chest / bicep / traps ... Legs .... Back / tricep. Still have a target of 4 workouts per week / 3 as a minimum. (Will do my delt auxillaries around the main compounds on each major).

... roll on Sunday Night dinner and

[SamWelly]

Back today ...

Good session. No niggles and crossed the 200kg deadlift mark for the first time. Back was fully loaded at the end of the session.

Thought you used to pull close to 300? :-s

[boostinggtir]

do you think going from 8 to 10" arms over 8 moths is a great a great achievement? Would it be safe to say I have superior genetics to most people?

[Optimass]

Back today ...

Good session. No niggles and crossed the 200kg deadlift mark for the first time. Back was fully loaded at the end of the session.

Thought you used to pull close to 300? :-s

I wish - to be honest I'm not sure I have ever tried over 220kg ... maybe 240 but not sure.

bench pb = 240kg 5 reps ( about 5 years ago -prior to shoulder injury)

Squat pb = 210kg (took me a long time to figure out technique after spilling over early on when I started out - used to do 120kg lunges instead)

Leg Press Pb = 540kg 4-6 reps (not sure of reps but definate on weight).

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[Optimass]

do you think going from 8 to 10" arms over 8 moths is a great a great achievement? Would it be safe to say I have superior genetics to most people?

:pfft: .... I was trying to think of a way to be diplomatic .... I'd say you are a man with no equal :pfft:

[Optimass]

If you have ever done low carb, you'll know how short your communication can be the further towards ketosis you get. Try looking after a 9 months old and a very determined 3 year old at the same time. :doh:

Never the less I made through to the evening meal no worries. I woke up this morning with absolutely no energy and strong hunger pangs ..... So probably didn't hit ketosis this week but it must have been close as at about 12 midday I was really on the low down. Was probably the leg workout that soaked up the last of the glucose in the system but never the less I managed to get a productive chest train out.

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Chest / biceps

flat d/b press with 20 kg superset with front raise 10 plate - My should warm up sets x 3.

Flat bench Barbell - 3 sets / Final set 6 clean reps @ 140kg. (Just taking it easy with the bar as my shoulder may protest. I prefer d/b for this reason but will do the bar again next week.

Incline machine press - 3 sets / Final set Full stack 8 reps. Will be adding weight to the side next week.

d/b Flyes : - 3 sets / Final set 10 reps @ 30kg d/b

Bicep curl d/b 3 sets / Final set 12 reps @ 25kg d/b

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Food as per plan - except meal 5 .... cheat meal: potato kumara mash / 400g beef / vegies.

Back on plan now until next week :nod: - I'm keen to see when I hit ketosis if at all next week so will use a keto stick lat enext week to see if I do. - not sure I will.

weigh in 115.8kg - so goes to show how much fluid your body soaks up after a good leg train. Tomorrows weigh in will be the telling card. I'm hoping to come in @ 116.5 - 116.7kg which will give me an 800g to 1kg weight loss for the week.

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Hasn't been a dramatic change to composition - although my chest came up really good tonight - very full which is often the case after a B/B Bench ... I notice a real difference (not sure if its normal).

Any 8/10 week for me being the first week on restricted nutri plan.

[Optimass]

Just read my post Sam ...

Meant to say crossed the 200kg mark for the first time since getting back into training after my break.

[Optimass]

Back today .... (Have a reasonably stable week this week so will be doing a shoulders/traps/tricep). Good W/O still strong - carbs back in which made it a good one. Couldn't weigh in as scales were broken :x - bummer as I'm flying a bit blind - they will no doubt now be recalibrated so I'll have to benchmark my weight again to ensure I'm not dropping too fast. I'm definately leaner this week - (pump on chest on Sunday show some change which is quicker than I thought). Also gone back a notch around the waist.

Lat Pulldowns unilaterals: 4 sets not sure of weight but failure close to stack on 10 reps.

Seated row (Narrow Grip): 4 sets / Finals set failure 10 reps 80kg

Deadlifts: 4 sets (+ 1 rep set) ... Final set 10 reps @ 180kg - Thought I'd try the 1 rep again @ 230kg but not enough to comfortably get past 50% so left it there. I'm going to go to 190kg next week for my rep set.

Light cardio 30 minutes Treadmill 6.5km @ incline 6 - 8

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Nutro ...

Meal 1 - 10 eggs 4 yolks

Meal 2 - 50g Whey + 2Tbl Peanut Butter

Trained - Post W/O shake in bake

Meal 3 - 250g Chicken Breast + 1 cup Greens + 6ml Fish Oil

Meal 4 - 50g Whey + 2 Tbl Peanut Butter

Meal 5 - 250g Chicken Breast + 1 cup Greens + 6ml Fish Oil

Meal 6 - 8 eggs 3 yolks.

Will be 4L water by days end :nod:

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[Optimass]

Chest: 118cm

Waist: 100

Thigh: 68

Calf: 43

Bicep: 40cm

Forearm 34cm

Bicep flexed 45cm :?

Todays stats vs 19th May >

Chest: 125cm (+ 7cm)

Waist: 100 - no change

Thigh: 67cm (- 1cm)

Calf: no change

Bicep: 43 (+ 3cm) (Flexd 46cm)

Forearm: 33cm (-1cm)

Should have done them start of last week - as low glycogen store could account for the drop n legs 1cm although have lost b/fat on last week also. Waist stays the same... pants defianately looser this week - lower back/obliques reoxidised may affect here but not concerned -mind you I'm heavier with the same waist measure. Bicep up 3cm and chest up 7cm. So shape is definately changing. Will measure again in 3 weeks to add another benchmark during the drop.

[Bobsta]

I wish - to be honest I'm not sure I have ever tried over 220kg ... maybe 240 but not sure.

bench pb = 240kg 5 reps ( about 5 years ago -prior to shoulder injury)

Squat pb = 210kg (took me a long time to figure out technique after spilling over early on when I started out - used to do 120kg lunges instead)

Leg Press Pb = 540kg 4-6 reps (not sure of reps but definate on weight).

Thats a huge bench press compared to your other lifts!! Well actually thats just a huge bench full stop :clap:

Did you use to train specifically for big bench optimass? or are you just naturally a big bencher?

[Android]

I wish - to be honest I'm not sure I have ever tried over 220kg ... maybe 240 but not sure.

bench pb = 240kg 5 reps ( about 5 years ago -prior to shoulder injury)

Squat pb = 210kg (took me a long time to figure out technique after spilling over early on when I started out - used to do 120kg lunges instead)

Leg Press Pb = 540kg 4-6 reps (not sure of reps but definate on weight).

Thats a huge bench press compared to your other lifts!! Well actually thats just a huge bench full stop :clap:

Did you use to train specifically for big bench optimass? or are you just naturally a big bencher?

shoot I missed that one Bobsta...240kg! you freak Optimass :clap:

[Optimass]

I wish - to be honest I'm not sure I have ever tried over 220kg ... maybe 240 but not sure.

bench pb = 240kg 5 reps ( about 5 years ago -prior to shoulder injury)

Squat pb = 210kg (took me a long time to figure out technique after spilling over early on when I started out - used to do 120kg lunges instead)

Leg Press Pb = 540kg 4-6 reps (not sure of reps but definate on weight).

Thats a huge bench press compared to your other lifts!! Well actually thats just a huge bench full stop :clap:

Did you use to train specifically for big bench optimass? or are you just naturally a big bencher?

Proportionally short arms .... since I first started genetically my arms and delts grew the fastest (I used to have 20' arms and didn't have to work too hard to keep them that size) .... I say 5 reps but to be fair the 5th was spotted and you can never fully tell how much the other guy is assisting. I went for a 1 rep maxx on the next set and blew my left rotator cuff. Sounded like two peices of 4by2 being slammed together and took the best part of 16 months before I could bench with a bar again. (took 6 months before I could d/b press more than 25kg d/b without pain) ..... this is why I use predominantly d/bells as my shoulder has never been the same and I don't want to risk an operation. I recommend using a shirt if you plan to lift like that - not very smart :nod:

Just before I quit the gym (business) - I was comfortably benching 200kg for 4 - 6 reps - "Humanperformance" will a test :wink: i found it really usefull for reqruiting more PT clients.

[Optimass]

I wish - to be honest I'm not sure I have ever tried over 220kg ... maybe 240 but not sure.

bench pb = 240kg 5 reps ( about 5 years ago -prior to shoulder injury)

Squat pb = 210kg (took me a long time to figure out technique after spilling over early on when I started out - used to do 120kg lunges instead)

Leg Press Pb = 540kg 4-6 reps (not sure of reps but definate on weight).

Thats a huge bench press compared to your other lifts!! Well actually thats just a huge bench full stop :clap:

Did you use to train specifically for big bench optimass? or are you just naturally a big bencher?

shoot I missed that one Bobsta...240kg! you freak Optimass :clap:

We are talking 5 years ago mate - I a small frie now --- dishaertening thing was just before I tried 265kg my training partner got one out and a second for which I gave him just 5% past the 75% of concentric. (He used to do flies with 45kg d/b - fucken massive chest and completely natural > believe it or not :nod: )