Natural......or not?

[1day]

:idea2: thought it would be interesting to see what sort of percentage of lifters/bodybuilders use/used a form of steroids, and what percentage are still natural. :-s

now some people will deny they use :^o (for whatever reason) but i thought if it is done as a poll then ur secret is safe and we might acually get a few more honest answers \:D/ so we can see what our nz scene is made up of

and for those they feel like commenting, where do u think the nz scene is heading? will there be more people going on gear (nzfbb)or will the testing get tougher and will it keep more people natural? :-s

[ohjoshua]

re-word the options...

all options say I have used steroids...

lol

[1day]

re-word the options...

all options say I have used steroids...

lol

(edited) :-s ............sure it does :? :pfft:

[boostinggtir]

maybe one day :pfft: :shifty:

[startinfromscratch]

ive ben training PROPERLY for less than 6 months. But with a few years more of consistent diet and training, i would maybe consider it if the passion for training was still there. plus by that time ill be late 20s so would natural levels would be dropping..

[Andrew]

I think you should change the questions to "Banned substances" there are plenty of guys & girls out there that don't take steroids but still take banned substances eg cutting agents, pharmaceutical diuretics, pro hormones etc

[1day]

I think you should change the questions to "Banned substances" there are plenty of guys & girls out there that don't take steroids but still take banned substances eg cutting agents, pharmaceutical diuretics, pro hormones etc

true. (edited)

[Gym rat]

I will stick with be natural plus it is lot more safer with out the use of gear true and very good point made by Andrew :nod: .

[1day]

:think: hrmm, interesting resaults so far

so for those that may jump on sum gear down the track, what do u think the major reason is that theyre not on there now(ie wanting more natural gains first, need to do more research first, dont know where to start/what products to go for?)

[Mrbig]

I think it would be a money issue its quite pricey over hea if you dont have a good source lots of ppl just out to make money so they rip everyone off

[boostinggtir]

:think: hrmm, interesting resaults so f

so for those that may jump on sum gear down the track, what do u think the major reason is that theyre not on there now(ie wanting more natural gains first, need to do more research first, dont know where to start/what products to go for?)

Wait till natural gains plato. Lack of knowledge. Post 25years old, I'm 22 at the mo, only been in the game for 1 year. Learn more about bb in general. Get to 110kg plus naturally with out a stupid bodyfat.

I believe that steroids are an ace card, that you should only play at the right time.

[Hone]

I've done cycles for 2 years

The most anabolic thing you can get is food.

If you have not got your diet nailed down then you are wasting your time and money taking gear, you will get no or very poor gains.

Diet 90%

Gear 10%

[startinfromscratch]

1day, i am one of those people - and there are saeveral things that would need to be in place before i pinned anything.

1 id want to be in great condition to start with ie 10% at most..

2 i would want to have a few years of consistent diet and training(so far so good)

3 id need to do ALOT of research, hell this whole thingf is a constant learning curve..

but with all those things in place, i would be looking at it. imo you dont have to have used up all natty potential to use, you just have to have a sound base knowledge of diet/training AND gear, or you just shouldnt do it at all..

[Andrew]

I've done cycles for 2 years

The most anabolic thing you can get is food.

If you have not got your diet nailed down then you are wasting your time and money taking gear, you will get no or very poor gains.

Diet 90%

Gear 10%

IMO and from what I have seen thats just bs, I've seen guys that train like retards and have diets that resemble what a average person would eat and they still make remarkable gains

[ohjoshua]

I've done cycles for 2 years

The most anabolic thing you can get is food.

If you have not got your diet nailed down then you are wasting your time and money taking gear, you will get no or very poor gains.

Diet 90%

Gear 10%

IMO and from what I have seen thats just bs, I've seen guys that train like retards and have diets that resemble what a average person would eat and they still make remarkable gains

same...

but some of them arent even on gear (esp some Islanders)

I had some Samoan guy (Leo) come in last year for like 6 months just training 2 - 3 *pw and he had 18 1/2 in arms (cut too). I asked him what he ate, he said corned beef, pork and

its just no fair... lol

25% genetics, 25% gear, 25% training, 25% nutrition