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Is liposuction cheating or part of the game in competitive Bodybuilding?  

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  1. 1. Is liposuction cheating or part of the game in competitive Bodybuilding?

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Thoughts? .... discuss

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The Case of the "Fat" Bodybuilder

I see many bodybuilders on whom I perform liposuction in the belt, neck, and breast areas. These patients tend to be "in shape"- not overweight-and yet they still show fat accumulations in these areas.

I remember a case in which the patient was 32 years old. He had been a wrestler and a bodybuilder. He was in great shape, but he suffered from gynecomastia and fat in the waist area. As a result, he was uncomfortable taking off his shirt in public, essentially making his goal of becoming a bodybuilder nothing more than an unfulfilled dream.

I performed liposuction around his belt line and removed the gynecomastia. Surprisingly, there was almost pure fat in the waist area. After the fat was removed, the contour of his waist changed dramatically. Now a professional bodybuilder, the patient exhibits a lean chest and a taut waist along with his six-pack abs and impressive biceps. -MB

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My wife came second to a woman some years ago that had a tummy tuck. We knew this as she had no belly button ..... she was on and off her diet right through the prep also .... and as the fat cells were completely removed it made it a lot easier for her to maintain the condition.

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That bites. But how did you know she had had lipo and a tuck as usually they will make a new button? My cousin doesn't have a belly button as she was born with a condition and her guts all hanging out, her organs are in odd places and they stitch them back up as best they can as newborns with high fatality rate.

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That bites. But how did you know she had had lipo and a tuck as usually they will make a new button? My cousin doesn't have a belly button as she was born with a condition and her guts all hanging out, her organs are in odd places and they stitch them back up as best they can as newborns with high fatality rate.

she had been a member on and off for some time and had mentioned it to a few people around the club.

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Cheating, most def!

Why? 'cos if it's "cosmetic surgery", its removing something the easy way. If it's medical surgery (i.e. it was needed on threat-to-health grounds), that's a different story, but I'm assuming we're talking cosmetics here.

I have little difficulty with female bodybuilders who wish to retain their feminity thanks to some saline...because they're not being judged on that.

But if you're lean in the abs, handles or thighs thanks to surgery, where the man or woman next to you starved, sweated and lifted weights to build definition, that's unfair.

If you can get an advantage from removing something, why not equally allow an advantage by adding things...I've heard of eg. pec implants for guys, for example. Would that be fair?

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Because its asking two questions...is it cheating? or is it part of the game?

:)

What are we saying yes to?

Darwinstef, basically you got it! Well done. :clap: :clap: One academic gold star to you *

Your second sentence hits the mark completely...'what are we saying yes [or no] to'

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I see many bodybuilders on whom I perform liposuction in the belt, neck, and breast areas. These patients tend to be "in shape"- not overweight-and yet they still show fat accumulations in these areas.

Wouldn't these just be their stubborn fat areas?

...Surprisingly, there was almost pure fat in the waist area. After the fat was removed, the contour of his waist changed dramatically. Now a professional bodybuilder, the patient exhibits a lean chest and a taut waist along with his six-pack abs and impressive biceps. -MB

Surprisingly? What did they expect to find in that area? :-s

Why? 'cos if it's "cosmetic surgery", its removing something the easy way. If it's medical surgery (i.e. it was needed on threat-to-health grounds), that's a different story, but I'm assuming we're talking cosmetics here.

:ditto:

Surgery for Gynecomastia or excess skin I understand.. but imo removing fat cells from the thighs, stomach, arms, waist etc - just sounds like impatience and an easy way out.

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I see many bodybuilders on whom I perform liposuction in the belt, neck, and breast areas. These patients tend to be "in shape"- not overweight-and yet they still show fat accumulations in these areas.

Wouldn't these just be their stubborn fat areas?

I dunno what cosmetic surgery costs, but I'd rather train and diet like hell to eliminate even the stubborn areas, and spend the money on fast cars and faster women :nod:

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Yes Big red - on reflection the opening question is misleading. Specifically is it cheating? YES or, is it part of the game? NO :)

Interesting how the trend is going. nearly 50/50.

for those that voted yes - cheating. what is your stance on the use of steriods then? TFB you posted as cheating and made the connection as its not natural - the easy way.

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How long does it take to heal from liposuction? Surely you couldn't just jump straight up on stage, and therefore would still need to go through the all the dieting too?

recovery is from 6 weeks onwards - but I have been told it can take longer depending on the individual.

have seen a few case studdies done on people that have the treatment but fail to change their eating habits. They look a bit "cabbage patch" as the fat doesn't always redistribute evenly around the body.

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Yes Big red - on reflection the opening question is misleading. Specifically is it cheating? YES or, is it part of the game? NO :)

Interesting how the trend is going. nearly 50/50.

for those that voted yes - cheating. what is your stance on the use of steriods then? TFB you posted as cheating and made the connection as its not natural - the easy way.

but if you say it is the part of the game that would be a yes, however it would no longer be considered cheating ! please rephrase the question

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The correct answer is simple kiddies........

The question was:

Is liposuction cheating or part of the game in competitive Bodybuilding?

Answer:

Do the rules in "competitive Bodybuilding" prohibit athletes from using liposuction? (may vary fed to fed)

If not then it's not cheating, if so then it is cheating.

"Is liposuction 'morally correct' in competitive Bodybuilding" seems to be the question most of you are grappling with; which is a question of personal perspective, for which answers will be typically polarised, so I wont bother putting my 10 cents worth in on this.

Nate

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Nice answer Nate....

New Question then: should they test for plastic surgery?

how would they test for plastic surgery? haha

coz then u can bring it to:

-noes jobs

-jawline reconstruction (especially for those infeminine competitors)

-heck even hair dying

now that may seem extreme but these are all measures that are taken to "improve" a physique; and judges in a competitve (especially pro) figure scene will take all physique aspects into consideration when judging. If your face (hair makeup, nails etc) is not up to scratch, or in alignment with your body then you do get points deducted-in that kind of line up it is all about the entire package

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Many males who are overweight in their teenage years develop a certain level of gyno that just never goes.

I think its fair.

If it isn't, then neither is all the roid use etc.

ive been fat all my teenage years well around 18%bf do you think my chances of geting the fat off and holding it off are reduced?

can you explain what you mean by gyno?

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