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[Android]

Thanks mate!

Ignite and Superpump250 are different things altogether.

I found Nutrex Ignite to be less intense than other pre-workout supps but it's when u get to the end of the hour that you realise, "hey I'm not so shattered right now".

It's time-released and probably why it doesn't HIT you straight away with rapid heart-beat or energy, the energy is sustained. Nothing like Superpump250 in terms of ingredients or effects, only you will know if you react to it with respect to ulcers etc. Good luck let me know how you react to it ay :-)

[Android]

It was Back today, on my own at Les Mills in the arvo.

For big workouts especially I like to go in the afternoon or evening so I can eat enough during the day to sustain a mammoth workout.

I've tried early morning workouts and they suck. Apparently Test levels are higher, but latest muscle mag says in late afternoon that men are stronger, so who knows which is best. I just want to eat the most carbs and protein prior to a workout, then the most after a workout before the next one :pfft:

I ran out of Nutrex Ignite so went for a PlasmaJet, taken about 90mins before the workout started and found my biceps vein out and got a good back pump. Lifting up my arms at the end of the workout and veins were running over them. I think it did a good job of getting oxygen to those parts today I felt strong throughout the workout but not superman. also drank XTend throughout of course. 11 weeks on and I am using the same container there's about a weeks worth left!

Straight up it was wide-grip chins. I went for 30 reps and this took me 5 sets to complete: 8, 6, 6, 5, 5.

Hang all the way down and pullup with the elbows only which fires up my lats. I didn't get any bicep pump from these so I was happy I didn't use biceps to pull myself up. I can do sets of 12 otherwise if I do.

Then onto the seated machine row, looks and behaves like a seated cable row this one. Worked down to the stack then did 4 sets of 8 reps. I concentrated n using just the back so 8 reps was my max and I contemplated a drop-set but decided not to, for no reason whatsoever.

Then on to pull-downs, some hot chick was using it so I asked if I could and she relinquished the whole machine to me, pity really, but I was there to workout...focused. I worked down to a reasonable weight where 10 reps was only just do-able and 12 was murderous. 3 sets later and my lats were swelling up and biceps were getting pumped :-| damn can't help it sometimes.

Next exercise is t-bar rows and I refrained from loading this up like I do with a training partner. I warmed up on 40kg for 20 reps and threw 1 more plate on for 60kg, doing really strict, back squeezing reps for 4 sets. It felt really good for my rhomboids especially on the way down when the weight stretches them out just before hauling that weight right back up again.

Last but/and not least was bent-over dumbbell rows. I did conventional on-handed ones as most benches were taken I had planned on leaning forward on an incline bench and doing both dumbbells together. Was a light weight 25kg rows but pause-hold at the top for a squeeze of my back and always trying to re-adjust my position to be front on///if you know what I mean it's easy to start leaning away from the side you're doing which actually prevents full range of motion, kind of like leaning back on cable rows, should sit up a bit and get a full squeeze in - i think.

Back felt wide and pumped as I left the gym, downed a double-serve shake with glucose and headed home a happy bodybuilder. Dinner was beef and white rice, supper will be beef and baked beans and I will load a shake for 1:30am when I feed Andrea.

[Android]

This Shoulder workout today was numero uno!

Charged up on everything pre-workout and gave it everything from start to finish.

PlasmaJet taken 1 and 1/2 hours before, Energy Shot taken 30mins before, and Lee Labarda's Extreme N.O (not avail in NZ) 20 mins before.

I was set on not doing presses today, Shoulders were just done last Thursday, this is a double whammy to give them some growth. I wouldn't normally do this and Legs get put off until Thursday which is 9 days apart. I can't fit a double workout in AND keep all other workouts on schedule, not because of time constraints but really recovery, I go to muscle exhaustion all the time and would be walking a fine line for over-training if I did. I wish I could!

First up was front raises with plates. 10kg warmup 45 reps, was super light but straight after the veins came out to play. I did 4 working sets with a 25kg plate after that. 8 reps was hard but squeezed out 10, 12, 12, 15 for the remaining 4 sets. Seemed to warmup or maybe longer rests meant I could do more as the sets went on. Either way muscle exhaustion is where I go with it.

After front raises it was side raises with dumbbells, this time with 12.5kg, 10kg, 8kg dropsets. No warmup sets straight into it, last set was forced reps from training partner behind helping to lift my weakened arms up again and again on the 12.5kgs and I finished with 8's but they felt like 80's LOL.

We tried a 'different' exercise next, lying on a bench head over the front of it and doing 4kg dumbbell front raises. Never felt like much and I got cramp at the back of my neck when I tried to squeeze and hold at the top of the motion. 2 sets into it and we flagged that exercise as 'too hard' and not effective.

The side raise machine was up next but this time I did mine with single arm, straight to the stack. Suprisngly whether you use both arms together or just one the weight on the arm is the same. I enjoyed being able to concentrate on one arm at a time and I squeezed out forced reps on almost every set, the final one I alternated until I couldn't stand the pain anymore. The pain was a deep muscle/ joint pain. not a tweak but an ache which is a good pain I get for shoulders. Shoulders for me ache when they get lactic acid, unlike biceps which burn.

Then we did a shoulder press movement on a machine. Light-as reps for 30 I think it was hurt in the arm from being held up during the whole movement and forearms were killing me. We went heavy a few from the bottom and then changed grip to lift the whole stack. We're not the only ones doing stacks on these machines btw, some even add 20kg plates on top of that.

Overall I'd rate this shoulder workout as a 10 out of 10. It was uniquely different, no press until the end all lat raises, starting with front raise, doing single side raises, almost every exercise was unlike what we normally do which is what we aim for to shock some growth.

I weight just under 105kg, dropped back but I was hungry after work and didn't eat I had baby fall asleep on me. I would have eaten a can of baked beans but by the time I got up it was time to go for the workout and too late to eat.

Made up for it with a big dinner, 300gms beef, broad beans, brocolli, white rice.

Will down a tuna before bedtime and have a shake at 1:30am again for baby's feed. I will grow from this I am sure, it might not be measurable but if I keep this up the measurements will change...they have to :shock:

[Android]

Woke up this morning not that hungry, it's the 2am protein shakes doing it I suspect.

Still I downed the mandatory 200gms of oats and water and a double-serve protein shake with a multi-vit.

Today's food while at work consists of 800gms of beef, 3 cups of cooked rice, 300gms of oats and fruit and another multi-vit.

Will force-feed myself some beef before 9:30am with a coffee, hunger should return as the day progresses.

REST day coming up tomorrow, I need it and will consider a B12 shot in the weekend and a massage this week...we'll see how that all pans out.

[Android]

Last night was Biceps, quite a specific workout really but even moreso since we just did Bicep peak exercises. Still did Hammers (kind of) and supinating curls but jsut concentrated on the peak and not on the full muscle belly (e.g no full arm extension on the preacher).

The end result was just swollen biceps that although they hurt the pain was numb and it gave me a bit of a euphoric feeling when i squeezed them.

It didn't start out like that though! The last 2 workouts were Shoulders, Back.

Pre-workout was a 2-stage pre-workout 'thing' I don't remember the name of the sample, taken 45 mins and then 15 mins before the workout. Also Gaspari PlasmaJet and Xtreme NO...pretty loaded up more than I normally do.

The first exercise was just Olympic bar curls (no weight warmup, then 5kg each side). They hurt after 10 reps and struggled to beat the pain to get to 15 reps. It wasn't muscle exhaustion it was lactic acid pain and I wish I had taken a panadol :-) yeah pussy I know!

We did 3 or 4 working sets with shoulder width grip and I didn't fully extend my arm. The pain was in the tendon at the bottom (hence why I decided to hit the peaks today, was kind of co-erced into it via my pain receptors).

The next exercise was Frank Zane inclines, lying chest down and curling dumbbells together. This is where the pain turned numb, with every set the bicep pumped up and the pain numbed more and more. By the last 2 sets I felt 'high' after completing 12 reps of 12.5kg dumbbells.

I've felt 'high' before during a leg extension/ leg curl superset session btw, once.

We went over to preachers next but gripped it close and with the bent bar it was like a hammer curl grip. I never went all the way down and am sure people in the gym were thinking, sloppy exercise but I squeezed the hell out of the peak at the top and last set was 4 reps of the stack. Probably a bit of ego in there as my mate couldn't do a single rep (oh am I supposed to say that.... :-)) Despite my high fat content veins were visible and the pump was as intense as it has ever been.

We headed over to single-arm cable curls next and repped out 3 sets at a good weight, the continuous tension kept the pump going and again I felt a bit of a buzz from this as I squeezed the bicep. I stretched out my arm throughout this workout as the bicep always felt like it was so tight, in my mind was fascia stretching, so I held the arm straight despite the pain this caused for as along as I could and then released it to do the other arm. I think we all do this anyway so not sure if I was doing it right.

We then tried something different and on the smith machine lay under it and did pullups. I know this is a back exercise but it uses biceps and ours were poked by now so although I could feel the lats pumping up it was the bicep that gave out first. The squeeze ant the top was really hard to do which I did like but apart from that it was a mediocre exercise.

Finally, concentration curls with 9kg dumbbell to squeeze anything left in the biceps, right out.

Had post workout shake, dinner, more meat before bedtime, and another shake at 2am. I'm in heaven right now although I'm walking around like a zombie with semi-sleep deprivation. Am sure growth hormones don't like being woken up in the middle of the night :-|

I will take some photos when i get a chance, probably in the weekend of progress.

Today is REST day yayy! I didn't get to the massage yesterday will try again today and make this a really enjoyable REST and grow day.

[startinfromscratch]

hey android, tried the nutrex ignite, tummy was fine but not the intensity id hoped for. will stick with the superpump i think. could you clarify the diff between superpump and plasmajet? same brand, just not sure how theyre diff. great web prices btw!

[Android]

hey android, tried the nutrex ignite, tummy was fine but not the intensity id hoped for. will stick with the superpump i think. could you clarify the diff between superpump and plasmajet? same brand, just not sure how theyre diff. great web prices btw!

You're welcome

Yeah I have to agree with you on Ignite, it doesn't hit you with a rush of anything. Kind of like taking multi-vitamin pills ay, you don't feel anything.

I'll send you a couple of PlasmaJet packets (they come in blister packs, 10 capsules per serve to take at least an hour before a workout). Try one for an arms workout at least and see if you like it (Will drop them into your letterbox, if you don't mind that is, you're just down the road LOL)...weekend probably.

[Android]

I'm not sure if my scales at home are playing games with me but last night they said I was 102-103kg.

Haven't weighed myself since I was 105kg on the gym scales so my head is playing with me right now.

Have the 1am wake-up calls affected me? Am I eating enough to maintain a larger size?

I know my appetite has decreased since being tired, I used to get to work and start eating meat by 8:30 or 9 at the latest.

Now I don't start eating until 9:30am. (Of course I still have breakfast at 7:30am, and a protein shake at 2am).

Tonight is the night our 12 mth project goes into Prod environment so it's 10:30 - 2am on site for all developers while it happens - yay more sleep deprivation.

I'll do a Legs workout at 5pm in City Xpress then go home for dinner and a nap before heading back to the city around 9 or 10.

I've brought with me just the PlasmaJet so might buy a carb drink at the gym for an energy boost.

It's been 9 days since the last Leg workout and I have another big one with a training partner next Tuesday.

So tonight's will be high-rep work to pump blood into the muscle, leaving Tuesday for the heavy-as weights when I have a spotter to watch me.

This last week it was Shoulders that got a double-hit with workouts just 5 days apart, this and next week it's Legs that get the shock treatment for growth.

Don't know if anyone else does this, but I put the name of the bodypart that I work on into my phone's calendar.

So when I need to know what to do next I can just go back through and see which parts are due for another workout.

I used to find I would have a hard time training body parts I didn't like to train until I did this.

I would train what I wanted to train rather than following a plan and until I did this my legs and abs suffered because I would either put them off for another day or if someone wanted to train with me I would pick a strong body part.

My Legs have grown alot since doing this, still along way off before being ready for the Nationals this year which leads me to the comp countdown.

The NZFBB Nationals in early October are my sole focus, just 253 days to go, or 36 weeks.

Take off 12 weeks for cutting down and it's 24 weeks left of bulking-up, which at 1 bodypart per week is just 24 Leg workouts left!

I can't afford to have a single mediocre Leg workout can I? That kind of reality motivates me!

I wish I could compete in more competitions than just the Nationals. Got an invitation to compete in the 2009 Asia-Pacific champs in ChCh but I promised myself I would make improvements and it really does take a year to do that for me.

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You're welcome

Yeah I have to agree with you on Ignite, it doesn't hit you with a rush of anything. Kind of like taking multi-vitamin pills ay, you don't feel anything.

I'll send you a couple of PlasmaJet packets (they come in blister packs, 10 capsules per serve to take at least an hour before a workout). Try one for an arms workout at least and see if you like it (Will drop them into your letterbox, if you don't mind that is, you're just down the road LOL)...weekend probably.

yea man that would be fantastic, ill take em before chest/tris, is it ok to stack the plasmajet with the superpump? i do 2 scoops of superpump. i know some peeps do 3 scoops but for my weight i feel 2 is enough kick!

thanks again

H

[Android]

Try 1 pack on its own first time, then with Superpump250 next pack.

You might get enough from just one pack and can save the SuperPump250.

PlasmaJet increases blood pressure on me, i get a slight headache after 20-30 mins that goes away after an hour so take it easy first time and if all is good go for both. If your fat content is 10-12% you'll see the results, I felt stronger on it so will be interesting too see what you can bench taking it.

[biggurl27]

Its hardcase how you are counting down the workouts till Nattys. Do you need to do a qualifier first or did you do the last show last year? I'm seriously considering it again Sept/Oct.

[Android]

Its hardcase how you are counting down the workouts till Nattys. Do you need to do a qualifier first or did you do the last show last year? I'm seriously considering it again Sept/Oct.

Oh do it, do it :clap:

I won overalls as a Novice at last years Coromandel Classic, 2009's first NZFBB qualifier. Also qualified for NABBA Nationals winning Open Mens tall but will be in China end of October so just got the NZFBB Nats this year.

I'll tan you up if you do it ;-) go on!

Is there anything stopping you? Prior commitments or anything else

[biggurl27]

Nope nothing stopping me, had the dates set in my diary as soon as they were anounced, just want to come in in better condition so I have been humming and harring about it for the last few weeks, whilst trying to get my ass back into proper regime again. Once I set a goal I stick to it, 8 months should suffice

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wildo android, il let you know how it pans out! :nod:

[buck002]

morning hope your not feeling to tried after work :shock: im up for a sample of a 10 lb bag of protein could you drop it off in my letter box dont worry the wife said it was ok :nod: are you up for training tonight give me a txt or pick up the phone and give me a ring

[soundsgood]

im up for a sample of a 10 lb bag of protein could you drop it off in my letter box dont worry the wife said it was ok

:ditto: :protest: :pfft:

Hey quick question Android. Will you be competing in the NZFBB nats in the Novice or Open division? I know you qualified as a novice but your still able to go up to Open if you choose to right?

[Android]

morning hope your not feeling to tried after work :shock: im up for a sample of a 10 lb bag of protein could you drop it off in my letter box dont worry the wife said it was ok :nod: are you up for training tonight give me a txt or pick up the phone and give me a ring

LOL sure Buck Rogers:

- 10lb sample is on its way

- can't do training I finished work at 4am this morning

- will take care of wife for you ;-)

- will never pick up the phone if you ring me

[Android]

im up for a sample of a 10 lb bag of protein could you drop it off in my letter box dont worry the wife said it was ok

:ditto: :protest: :pfft:

Hey quick question Android. Will you be competing in the NZFBB nats in the Novice or Open division? I know you qualified as a novice but your still able to go up to Open if you choose to right?

I was told that the rules state I have to compete as a Novice in the Nationals as I didn't qualify via Open class. Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I have asked that from a head judge and got a surprise, because I thought like others, that winning the Overalls would put me up into Open class automatically. Apparently not.

I think it's unfair for other Novices, I am going to give it 118% for the Nationals Overall title and I'd prefer to compete against the Open guys for that spot in the Overalls.

There was one guy who decided not to do Coromandel Classic Novice, he saw me 2 days before the show he was all tanned up and looking big, ready for the trip down to Thames, and I think that's really sad tbh it doesn't make me feel good like you might think it would.

I was treated fairly by NABBA who put me into Open class at North Harbours when they heard I had won the NZFBB Overalls and I had to work hard to win that class. The Novice winner was awesome too and he also deserved to win his class so I was happy with the way they worked it out for us all.

How about you, whats your plan mate?

[soundsgood]

Im competing in Novice NZFBB too, so we will be in the same class.

To get around your conundrum you could always compete in one of the regionals in the open division to qualify for the open's and the nationals. There's only a week or two between the CNI's in Tauranga and the nats in Hamilton.

Im not saying I wouldnt want to compete next to you, even though in all likelyhood I wouldnt beat you, thats not the point is it. I think that guy who pulled out after he saw you was pretty average.

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cheers dude, youre a fucken legend!!!

btw, if any of yous want samples you should get them how i normally do:- buy stuff off sportstrition and get your samples then.. cheeky fuckers :grin:

[Android]

Im competing in Novice NZFBB too, so we will be in the same class.

To get around your conundrum you could always compete in one of the regionals in the open division to qualify for the open's and the nationals. There's only a week or two between the CNI's in Tauranga and the nats in Hamilton.

Im not saying I wouldnt want to compete next to you, even though in all likelyhood I wouldnt beat you, thats not the point is it. I think that guy who pulled out after he saw you was pretty average.

Hey sounds good soundsgood I'll check out the date of the CNI's. If they are within 3 weeks of the Nationals I'll do it. I'm happy to compete either way as well, nothing is a given ay

[Android]

Have had 3 days off from workouts and went into Back today totally refreshed and loaded up with passion and strength again.

This is a new phase for me, I've been hitting Shoulders pretty hard which I will continue to do but now it's Legs and Back I want to really bring up in the next month.

I'm off to the Aussie Pro Grand Prix in mid-March, VIP all the way looking for added motivation and inspiration from the event and the workshops they're putting on.

Okay Back today, got up late at 9am and had oats, shake, baked beans and 300gms beef, a plum, Xtremem NO, PlasmaJet, multi-vits, and probably about 2 litres of water all before the midday workout.

Went into seated cable rows first up, working our way down the stack with plenty of rest between sets. First set pumped out about 30 reps, subsequent sets I stopped at 12 to save it for the hard sets. Last set was the entire stack, I was egged on when I put the pin about 4 from the bottom, being told someone else can do the stack stroked my ego the wrong way so I dropped the pin to the floor. I got out 8 reps, the first 6 were great, last 2 were really hard and partial. Dropped the weight to 3/4 stack and repped out stricter ones.

I tweaked my rear shoulder doing this and vowed not to bother doing the stack again. (Kinda like drinking really where you say you'll never do it again....until the next time comes around LOL).

Pulldowns were next and I went super-light first set to get a feel of my shoulder which tweaked with joint pain a bit. As we went heavier it warmed up and came right, not restricting me in any way but I didn't go super-heavy rather super concentrated squeezes and on the way up head forward to get a really good lat stretch. 3 working sets later and we moved on to the next exercise.

Incline dumbbells rows, these I like better than a barbell row because you can pull them back further. With a barbell it stops when it hits your chest or stomach and you can't pull back any further so why do them? Dumbbells can be pulled right back for a good squeeze. warmer up on 20kg each arm and did 3 working sets of 30kg and 12 reps.

Over to T-Bar rows which is like the dumbbell row but slightly different in angles and wider grip than a dumbbell. Didn't go super heavy just up to 70kg but it was all controlled and I squeezed my back on almost every rep. Training partner squeezed more out of me with forced reps and a whip.

Next up was dumbbell shoulder shrugs I just went straight for 40kg dumbbells. I wish I had straps I need them to get my traps bigger, will invest in some soon. I tried them seated but although it was stricter I couldn't get a big movement out of it so went back to standing. 4 working sets of these.

Finally hyper-extensions with a 10kg plate and lat-squeezes at the same time. This was shown to me by a PT and works lower back, lats, and hammies all in one.

My lower back muscles on the drive home were killing me it felt weak, I guess I just need to harden up and do more of these to build this area up. It's a weak point for me I slouch in an office chair all day and if I ever sit at a table I always put elbows on it, which is taking pressure off the lower back muscles so they really aren't being used much daily. As much as I am aware of it I don't seem to change my habit easily so will trash it more often in the gym and as it strengthens I will try more often to sit up straight etc.

Awesome day, awesome workout.

Cam home and ate a can of baked beans with a can of tuna. Next up is chicken and rice.

Tomorrow is probably Shoulders (ay partner;-)) and Tuesday Legs.

[Gym rat]

Android I am very envious you going to the Aussie pro Grand prix in March plus VIP as well have fun dude.

[soundsgood]

I'm off to the Aussie Pro Grand Prix in mid-March, VIP all the way looking for added motivation and inspiration from the event and the workshops they're putting on.

:shock: So jealous. Those workshops will be awesume!

So has your weight crept back up over your rest days? I always gain the most weight on rest days :think:

[Android]

I'm off to the Aussie Pro Grand Prix in mid-March, VIP all the way looking for added motivation and inspiration from the event and the workshops they're putting on.

:shock: So jealous. Those workshops will be awesume!

So has your weight crept back up over your rest days? I always gain the most weight on rest days :think:

Yeah it's gone back to about 105kg.

My appetite is coming back as well, think it was the shock of being woken up at 1am and working until 4am that did it. I'm just going to keep pushing myself now and see how far it takes me :twisted:

I'll be changing my workouts to straight after work soon so I can be home from 7am onwards for a nap, dinner, bath the baby, sleep before 1am wakeup and protein shake, etc. I think this routine will work out ok :-)

Current one is get home from work, spend time with baby, go to workout...by the time I get home at 8:30 it's too late to take a nap.

Napping during bulking up is important to me for recovery and HGH (not the kind u buy)