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Cheers everyone!!

Enjoyed sharing it all, the things I found that worked for me and the things that i thought would have worked but didn't.

I never got time to try the things that may or may not have worked better, but knowing me I will next time...in another couple of years 8)

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Day 1 back at gym starts today.

Thought I would share the direction the next 3 months is taking me so that the following posts have some context.

I am committing to myself to go back to basic training for 12 weeks. Part of those 12 weeks will be during my PCT phase, and part of it will likely be on cycle. If this changes and I stay off for longer (or shorter) it'll be posted.

Back to basics for me means compound movements for all body parts.

Will do 4 days a week and give more time to family so at this stage looking like:

Mon - Shoulders, Triceps

Tue - Legs

Thurs - Back

Fri - Chest, Biceps

Spent an hour this morning cooking and eating so once I get that sorted and streamlined I will know how much earlier I have to get up for a walk. At the rate and type of food I'm eating I will have to start morning walks by next week.

So Legs tonight, haven't touched them for 12 days now so keen to see how they go.

Another thing I am going to start doing, is stop counting reps. I relaized just how stupid and inteferring this is to mind-muscle connection and just enjoying the pain-filled moments of reps. So I'll be aiming for a maximum of under 10 reps but I don't care what side of that a set falls on. I'll know by weight what sort of range I'm in for and sub-consciously if I only do 4 or 5, or if it's too light and I'm doing 12-15 I'll know what to adjust for the next set.

My aim on first exercise is to do a high rep warm-up, then a 'feeler' set that gets me 15 or so reps out, then 4-6 working sets. So I'll know the weight I do, and the effort I had to put in, just not the number of reps ($50 says I can't stop the counting in my head for weeks LOL but will give it a try and c what happens...music might help).

This morning was the last 50mcg T3, I now go down to 25mcg T3 for a week.

Doing 100mcg GHRP-6 upon getting up, waiting the mandatory 20mins before carbs, then eating breakfast. This was:

- 150gms muesli (1 serving is 50gms) with whole milk

(100gms C, 15gms P, 10gms F)

- 2 vogel slices with butter and honey

(40gms C, 6gms P, 5gms F)

- 50gms WPI shake with a juiced apple and tomatoe, forgot the carrot

(20gms C, 50gms P, 0gms F)

160gms Carbs, 70gms Protein, 15gms Fats = 1055 calories

Tomorrw I will add the carrot and a banana to the shake and have 4 slices of vogel's toast am sure!

Lastly, 20mg Nolvadex and 50mg DHEA in the morning, other 50mg DHEA in arfternoon.

Continue taking BSN Nitrix and just started Creatine (complex blend of monohydrate, hydrochloride, kre-alkayn and others) in the morning and during the day.

I am having a 50gm shake in the morning, and taking 2 to work, 1 is pre-workout with packet of raisins, and 1 is post-workout with one of my home-made bars. My 3 packed meals are for 10am, 12pm, 2pm, the pre-workout shake and raisins are for 4pm. Nicely spaced fedding times.

Will do 100mcg GHRP-6 again post-workout, then same before bedtime as well. Multi-vits of course I take NutriGenix as it's more than a multi-vit and they do the complex Creatine as well.

[biggurl27]

Congratulations Andrew :wink:

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Congratulations Andrew :wink:

Awww, thanks

[thatwaslight]

awesome stuff bro! well deserved win!

[PeterDolan]

Did you get any feed back from the judges?

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awesome stuff bro! well deserved win!

Cheers man, appreciate that

Did you get any feed back from the judges?

Some positive feedback, will call a couple in weekend to get the feedback on areas to improve.

I'd say it'll be Legs, Back depth, lower lats, triceps ... But there could b more :shock:

[soundsgood]

Mean bro, you've got groupies! :pfft: \:D/

J/K

I think you brought a great all round package, every thing big and full.

You have the size and the symettry. Try things a little bit differently pre comp next season (yes you better be competing again next season, none of this 2 years off shit again), and you will definately be in the running for NZ next top Bodybuilder.

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Legs today and I weighed in at 107.5kg and prolly 7% bf. Feels good so I gotta slow down the constant eating soon or it'll be 117kg and 17% bf b4 long...

Warmed up with Leg Extensions and then hit the squat rack. Few warmups and then 4 working sets. Was as hard not counting reps as I thought it would be but last 2 sets I just knew I would do roughly same number of reps as first 2 sets...but still kept counting :cry:

Stance was shoulder width and toes outward a little. Muscles feel tight like they are full, guess they are after the rebound, so Squats felt good and I felt strong.

Next did stiff-legged deadlifts and warmed Hammies up then did 4 working sets, trying to keep heels firmly on the ground to engage Hammies as much as possible. Guys next to me were doing same but were taking about leaning forward more to engage Hammies...2 different stories, will have to check this out for myself to confirm which it is now.

Hack Squat machine next with feet together and 3/4 up the plate. Warmed up and then 4 5 working sets of I dont know how many reps. I was able to stop counting after first working set of 12. Just watched quads working and didn't do ass to ankles like I always do. I was feeling the main stress on the quad 3/4 down so dropped just below that then drive it up again past the main stress point.

Lastly 4 working sets on the seated calf raises and counting reps again dammit! Oh well I'll persevere for a while longer. I had left my iPod at home so didn't have music as planned.

50gm WPI PWO shake and one of my bars in the car.

Got home and did a peptide shot, and dinner waiting for me was beef strips, red onion, capsicum, avocado, lettuce, tomato, beans, bean sprouts, and rice. I waited 15 mins and then wolfed it down, followed by 1/4 blueberry cake/crumble and hokey pokey ice-cream.

Needed a coffee in the evening to stay awake.

At 9:15 had last peptide shot and 20mins later rice crackers which totaled 30gms carbs, and a 50gm Casein protein shake, followed by a small apple.

[Android]

Mean bro, you've got groupies! :pfft: \:D/

J/K

I think you brought a great all round package, every thing big and full.

You have the size and the symettry. Try things a little bit differently pre comp next season (yes you better be competing again next season, none of this 2 years off shit again), and you will definately be in the running for NZ next top Bodybuilder.

Haha I train with a few of them when I am in their part of town it's inspiring to train the way others do instead of my same old style.

Will think about it next year and definitely tie-down a simpler pre-contest regime. I thought I was big enough but am not 3D enough IMO.

Def want to give receptors a break and in the meantime study new nutrition data a bit more and study muscle physiology as well in the hope it will help better exercise choices.

I'll see you on stage bro :twisted:

[Shutupandsquat]

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LOL shocking pic mate she made me do that like 3 times...wish they'd stay out of backstage tbh and just take pics of the show

This week is screwy being short week so today was Chest and Tris to fit in with a mates program as well. He's been watching Phil Heath so we did Phil's workout today instead of mine :-| wtf

Incline dumbbell press first up, slight incline not as steep as I usually do and we warmed up 3 times up the rack and then 4 sets of 50kg for 10-12 reps. Straight away I notice I am pumped almost to same level as taking insulin. I don't know if it's the peptide or the rebound or both. I am now 10kg heavier 5 days after the official weigh-in so I suspect it's carbs and fats. The large pizza for lunch will have some effect :-)

Whatever it is I'm strong and muscles are full-as. Especially since it's been 7 days since my last 0.6ml Prop shot and 6 days since my last 0.6ml Tren-A shot and Winny tab. My test levels should be lowering substanitally.

I expect that if I am going to crash it will be 7-10 days after last short-acting shot/ oral.

Next up it was incline dumbbell flyes and worked up to 20kg dumbbells and 4 sets of 10-12 reps again.

All benches were taken so couldnt do flat bench barbell press so we did seated HammerStrength version of a flat bench. We did 5 sets with 40kg each side.

Finally for Chest we did 7 sets on the Pec Dec. Apparently Phil does 7 sets for the last exercise of a bodypart...? Chest pumped up like a mofo and striated to hell.

Triceps was rope pushdown, again aftger warmup it was 4 sets of 10-12 reps.

Then dips, I could only do 8 reps at a time...

Then we did Smith machine close grip press with 60kg on the bar for 4 working sets.

Finally a 7-setter which was lying dumbbell skullcrsushers using hammer grip.

Great pump, best and biggest I've had for a while it's been 2 months since I've been this size again and looking forward to being totally off gear and sitting around 110kg again. I guess I willl end up 10-12% b.f at this weight but that's ok I enjoy the constant stretch of the skin that excess carbs gives me. I am dying to know if it's just the rebound or also the poptide giving me an insulin-like feeling and strength. I will will know in 2 weeks which it is was and will also know how it helps with the PCT as well.

Good times ahead I hope

[Gym rat]

I also do seven sets as well for the last muscle group or I do seven sets for bicpes first including triceps as well which is knowen as FST-7 which is fun plus it is a great way to shock any muscle group ie chest,back shoulders,quads etc

[thatwaslight]

fuark man that is one thick chest! no homo!

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fuark man that is one thick chest! no homo!

yeah man, can kind of see the depth of the deviated septum in this shot.

Was always quietly worried in the off season what the chest would look like and hoped I wouldn't find gyno once the fat was stripped off LOL.

Stupid thing to worry about but when they get some bulk on them they hang a bit, especially when you sit down and your fat-as belly comes up to meet them...its gross :shock:

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Back today and went back to basics which kind of felt weird. Still didn't have enough time to cover the basics imo but will do a few different ones next time.

Deadlifts first and warmup, feeler set, then 3 working sets of 12 reps nothing to failure, 140kg.

Pullups next, I used the machine and 5 plates. I got out 8 reps for 4 sets doing this, one of the sets dropped back to 3 plates but was a struggle. I need to get to 0 plates and then onto the 'big mans' bar and do real pullups.

I weighed 110.5kg today :-) bit on the hefty side after just 5 days am up 12kg.

Next was dumbbell rows and just did working sets with 25kg for form. Really focused on keeping torso straight and shoulders forward for 4 sets.

Finally was shrugs and 60kg each side of machine, did 7 sets of these for 12 reps each.

Nothing to failure, just form.

I felt slightly weak walking into the gym but I've had an upset stomach all day and feel 'loose'. Either bad food or am hitting low-point off the gear. Will watch and see if it is or not. Once I got into training I put up with it and got a pump, felt good and strong and held myself back on all exercises (except pullups...I really couldn't do these without plates assisting LOL)

Tomorrow am training at the Uni gym with Small ;-) will knock off work early arvo and do Shoulders and Biceps with her.

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Shoulders and Biceps today, Friday stomach still not right at all but better now.

Seated dumbbell press and just getting form right. Concentrated on keeping lower back against the seat so working sets were 30kg. Found if I went below parallel there was more pressure to arch back so kept weights up parallel at least.

Smith machine front press next and same deal, pushing inner back against the seat...harder for this exercise thanthe last. Bar had 15kg on each side was good warmup then working sets with extra 20 each side.

Kneeling side raise machine next, strict as, not much to say about this except delts were fully pumped and hard halfway through this one.

Incline dumbbell rear delt raise last, light weight.

Incline dumbbell curls working sets were 15kg and was a good 5 sets supinating the wrist and enjoying the stretch.

Last was single arm cable curls, 2 different positions... across body and in front of body. Arms pretty big and solid pump.

I'm still 110kg and suspect the stomach ache was hormone stress related. I took B12 shot yesterday to help immune system and just feel slight cloudy head coming on which for me is asign am hitting low Test levels (or hormones related to that...adrenal, pituitary etc), but strength and pump in the gym still superb so if my Test is now hitting zero I'm not caring about any muscle loss happening :-) just continue to take DHEA and Nolvadex, with peptides and creatine and arginine. Timing of hitting low Test and just finishing T3 taper wasn't planned like this, but don't expect body to freak out, pituitary gland is supposed to b pretty smart.

[I Declare War]

Shoulders and Biceps today, Friday stomach still not right at all but better now.

Seated dumbbell press and just getting form right. Concentrated on keeping lower back against the seat so working sets were 30kg. Found if I went below parallel there was more pressure to arch back so kept weights up parallel at least.

Smith machine front press next and same deal, pushing inner back against the seat...harder for this exercise thanthe last. Bar had 15kg on each side was good warmup then working sets with extra 20 each side.

Kneeling side raise machine next, strict as, not much to say about this except delts were fully pumped and hard halfway through this one.

Incline dumbbell rear delt raise last, light weight.

Incline dumbbell curls working sets were 15kg and was a good 5 sets supinating the wrist and enjoying the stretch.

Last was single arm cable curls, 2 different positions... across body and in front of body. Arms pretty big and solid pump.

I'm still 110kg and suspect the stomach ache was hormone stress related. I took B12 shot yesterday to help immune system and just feel slight cloudy head coming on which for me is asign am hitting low Test levels (or hormones related to that...adrenal, pituitary etc), but strength and pump in the gym still superb so if my Test is now hitting zero I'm not caring about any muscle loss happening :-) just continue to take DHEA and Nolvadex, with peptides and creatine and arginine. Timing of hitting low Test and just finishing T3 taper wasn't planned like this, but don't expect body to freak out, pituitary gland is supposed to b pretty smart.

Good stuff man, keep in there! Sucks a bit coming off cycle but you're doing your body a big favour. You'll rebound soon enough... and when you next hit it you'll respond like mad.

You doing your incline db's on the non-adjustable 90 degree seats?

One thing I've found re dumbbell presses is to do them on an adjustable incline bench on the highest setting just off 90 degrees. that little offset makes it easy to keep back in the seat and not have to fight falling forward.. easy to put all your effort into pushing upwards.

Did ya end up meeting SG for a train today?

Also, where do you get your B12 shots from.. I've been thinking about getting some myself.. anything you can recommend?

Hope to catch up with u sometime soon!

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Shoulders and Biceps today, Friday stomach still not right at all but better now.

Seated dumbbell press and just getting form right. Concentrated on keeping lower back against the seat so working sets were 30kg. Found if I went below parallel there was more pressure to arch back so kept weights up parallel at least.

Smith machine front press next and same deal, pushing inner back against the seat...harder for this exercise thanthe last. Bar had 15kg on each side was good warmup then working sets with extra 20 each side.

Kneeling side raise machine next, strict as, not much to say about this except delts were fully pumped and hard halfway through this one.

Incline dumbbell rear delt raise last, light weight.

Incline dumbbell curls working sets were 15kg and was a good 5 sets supinating the wrist and enjoying the stretch.

Last was single arm cable curls, 2 different positions... across body and in front of body. Arms pretty big and solid pump.

I'm still 110kg and suspect the stomach ache was hormone stress related. I took B12 shot yesterday to help immune system and just feel slight cloudy head coming on which for me is asign am hitting low Test levels (or hormones related to that...adrenal, pituitary etc), but strength and pump in the gym still superb so if my Test is now hitting zero I'm not caring about any muscle loss happening :-) just continue to take DHEA and Nolvadex, with peptides and creatine and arginine. Timing of hitting low Test and just finishing T3 taper wasn't planned like this, but don't expect body to freak out, pituitary gland is supposed to b pretty smart.

Good stuff man, keep in there! Sucks a bit coming off cycle but you're doing your body a big favour. You'll rebound soon enough... and when you next hit it you'll respond like mad.

You doing your incline db's on the non-adjustable 90 degree seats?

One thing I've found re dumbbell presses is to do them on an adjustable incline bench on the highest setting just off 90 degrees. that little offset makes it easy to keep back in the seat and not have to fight falling forward.. easy to put all your effort into pushing upwards.

Did ya end up meeting SG for a train today?

Also, where do you get your B12 shots from.. I've been thinking about getting some myself.. anything you can recommend?

Hope to catch up with u sometime soon!

Yeah I use the adjustable seats, high back and slight incline don't like the short back ones for shoulders.

B12 is available online in NZ for $25 u get 3 1ml ampules, or any chemist should have have it OTC. They'll ask u why, I tell em I take steroids and they hand it over no worries at all, some charge $20 some charge $35. Kingsland chemist is $20, Queen St $35.

Missed SG today by 10mins I reckon, next time ay.

If you're training around 4:30 weekdays let me know mate, can do a lunch train some days too I quit my job this week. Looking for more money and career jump. After 25th Nov if I don't have work I'll b able to train all day every day lol

[I Declare War]

Yeah I use the adjustable seats, high back and slight incline don't like the short back ones for shoulders.

B12 is available online in NZ for $25 u get 3 1ml ampules, or any chemist should have have it OTC. They'll ask u why, I tell em I take steroids and they hand it over no worries at all, some charge $20 some charge $35. Kingsland chemist is $20, Queen St $35.

Missed SG today by 10mins I reckon, next time ay.

If you're training around 4:30 weekdays let me know mate, can do a lunch train some days too I quit my job this week. Looking for more money and career jump. After 25th Nov if I don't have work I'll b able to train all day every day lol

Cheers bro - I'll try and see what my local Pharmacy sells them for tomorrow.

Yep I'll let you know, either or is good for me, lunch usually I need to keep it to 40 minutes tho.

Good luck job hunting... sometimes a change is best. I hope you find something quick.

[thatwaslight]

Yeah I use the adjustable seats, high back and slight incline don't like the short back ones for shoulders.

B12 is available online in NZ for $25 u get 3 1ml ampules, or any chemist should have have it OTC. They'll ask u why, I tell em I take steroids and they hand it over no worries at all, some charge $20 some charge $35. Kingsland chemist is $20, Queen St $35.

Missed SG today by 10mins I reckon, next time ay.

If you're training around 4:30 weekdays let me know mate, can do a lunch train some days too I quit my job this week. Looking for more money and career jump. After 25th Nov if I don't have work I'll b able to train all day every day lol

often they will tell you you need a script and wont give it to you OTC, but just tell them to get fuarked then he/she checks with head pharmacist and they hand it over. you don't need to tell them anything man

Cheers bro - I'll try and see what my local Pharmacy sells them for tomorrow.

Yep I'll let you know, either or is good for me, lunch usually I need to keep it to 40 minutes tho.

Good luck job hunting... sometimes a change is best. I hope you find something quick.

[Android]

yeah to true TWL, have had funny looks b4 but dont care just give me what I ask for :-)

Today was non-eventful.

Started a Leg workout and got major cramps. Can only put it down to the upset stomach and loose bowels I've had since late last week LOL. It puts your minerals out of balance and I need to recover.

Pain too cos I felt good for a Leg workout. Got thru Squats and did 1 set of front squats then stopped it seemed unsafe with full-on cramps in the Quads. I switched to Hack Squat so if I fell it was ok, but still I could feel if I pushed a 4th set out I'd be on the floor in pain.

I changerd to Leg Curls and did a few sets as the Hammies weren't cramping but I realised I was pushing it and I should just recover fully.

Left the gym, and carried on with my PWO measures as if I had done something. Legs are sore but its from cramp not from DOMS - doh!

Will make sure I consume salty foods tonight and add to my chicken tomorrow, and will have a couple of Electrolyte drinks during the day so that Chest and Triceps workout isn't affected. If I had known about today I would have done the same but there was no warning until I started Legs.

[I Declare War]

cheers for the advice TWL. lol that reminds me of when I was a newb and didn't know abt the exchange.. getting pins at pharmacies was a right pain.

sucks about the cramps Android!

[HarryB]

Cramps are just your body getting used to be loaded with glycogen and recovering from all the stress you have put it through. Won't last much longer.

Sucks to be looking for work at this time of the year man but no doubt you will get yourself sorted.

Just re off time, are you still running peptides? I found the ghrp6 helped me retain so much in this last break I had.

[Android]

Cramps are just your body getting used to be loaded with glycogen and recovering from all the stress you have put it through. Won't last much longer.

Sucks to be looking for work at this time of the year man but no doubt you will get yourself sorted.

Just re off time, are you still running peptides? I found the ghrp6 helped me retain so much in this last break I had.

Yeah totally agree with you so far mate, am running them and impressed.

Muscles are full all of the time, appetite is good at all meals, and I don't feel unmotivated in the gym at all despite getting close to 2 weeks off last Prop pin.

Biggest ups for peptides during this PCT is I never feel like not eating or training and I think this has to be why size is maintained.

But some guys over here are saying they are getting nothing noticeable from it which is a shame. I don't know their timings, and people just deal out the vials without much info apart from their recommended dosage, so who knows what the others are doing to themselves.