back to basics

[rose]

should pain/discomfort when hanging at bottom of chin.

Im not bouncing, slow controlled descent -

Have been doing dislocations with no results

Do you do any other shoulder rotation/supraspinatus/rear delt work, e.g. BOLR, facepulls, fatman rows or horizontal rotations etc?

Thinking about it, I've never done wide grip pulls before doing some kind of warmup or other exes first.

I think Pman has mentioned info re wide grip being a bad option for people with shoulder issues. He might be a good one to ask.

[jono]

where abouts is the pain coming from specifically?

feels like an internal thing?

WG chins 8)

should pain/discomfort when hanging at bottom of chin.

Im not bouncing, slow controlled descent -

Have been doing dislocations with no results

i get this too, but only at the very bottom. just a twinge in the meat of the delt. if i leave a slight bend in elbow it usually is sweet.

i used to do weighted wg chins with no probs so i am not sure what is up

should pain/discomfort when hanging at bottom of chin.

Im not bouncing, slow controlled descent -

Have been doing dislocations with no results

Do you do any other shoulder rotation/supraspinatus/rear delt work, e.g. BOLR, facepulls, fatman rows or horizontal rotations etc?

Thinking about it, I've never done wide grip pulls before doing some kind of warmup or other exes first.

I think Pman has mentioned info re wide grip being a bad option for people with shoulder issues. He might be a good one to ask.

currently no - i think my shoulders are being pulled forward and up via muscle imba - instead of back and down like they should be. been working on this for a while

[Growth]

:S Id you had to guess, would you say the pain comes from muscle, connective tissue or joint? Its it a permanent feeling throughout all sets or does it subside once your a few sets in?

[jono]

:S Id you had to guess, would you say the pain comes from muscle, connective tissue or joint? Its it a permanent feeling throughout all sets or does it subside once your a few sets in?

its not comming from the main delt muscles it feels internal - but not joint pain.

[jono]

squats 120 x 8 x 4

fronts 80 x 8 x 4

legpress 7pps x 10 x 10

changing the way i perform reps on all ex now - no rest pause

[rose]

currently no - i think my shoulders are being pulled forward and up via muscle imba - instead of back and down like they should be. been working on this for a while

Had a quick look back and couldn't see any rear delt work? I'd look at incorporating some, especially if you suspect an imbalance. Bent over DB lateral raises, face pulls, fatman rows, etc etc. I also personally like doing stuff that works the supraspinatus (e.g. horizontal DB rotations, light ones as a warm up before bench/shoulder work, and heavy ones as a shoulder exe every so often, as well as the old empty cans exe).

[jono]

currently no - i think my shoulders are being pulled forward and up via muscle imba - instead of back and down like they should be. been working on this for a while

Had a quick look back and couldn't see any rear delt work? I'd look at incorporating some, especially if you suspect an imbalance. Bent over DB lateral raises, face pulls, fatman rows, etc etc. I also personally like doing stuff that works the supraspinatus (e.g. horizontal DB rotations, light ones as a warm up before bench/shoulder work, and heavy ones as a shoulder exe every so often, as well as the old empty cans exe).

rear delt work now has become part of my routine.

Shoulders feeling great atm. 8)

[drizzt]

Good to have ya back sir :salute:

[Big john]

Where ya been Hibernating mate?! good to see ya back jono :nod:

[Growth]

welcome back dude! :grin:

[rose]

.

[jono]

Good to have ya back sir :salute:

thanks boss

Where ya been Hibernating mate?! good to see ya back jono :nod:

thanks mate

welcome back dude! :grin:

growth! are you training yet? :grin:

.

\:D/

[jono]

chest

flat db press

24 x 12 x 4

incl db press

24 x 12 x 4

dips

8 x 6

variety of tri work all high reps massive pump

changed my training a fair bit doing a lot more reps, less weight

bw = 84 (lean)

[startinfromscratch]

welcome back ronnie!

[Growth]

growth! are you training yet? :grin:

Yeah man! been training again for maybe the past 4-5 months straight!

Were you still training even though you weren't posting here?

84 kilos? geez what you been up to man?? :shock:

[jono]

growth! are you training yet? :grin:

Yeah man! been training again for maybe the past 4-5 months straight!

Were you still training even though you weren't posting here?

84 kilos? geez what you been up to man?? :shock:

yeah mate- been cutting 8)

strength still the same as pre cut - only i weigh around 10kg less

[jono]

Having just run around lake taupo- the great lakes relay

Time to post up a workout..

Mon

Legs

Squats 4 sets - 90*8

Front squats 4 sets 40*8

Leg press 4 sets 6pps*6

Tues

Chest

incl press 6 sets 24's*8

flat press 6 sets 20's*8

dips 6 sets bw*4

Tris

pushdown 6 sets 40somthing*15

v pushdown 6 sets 25*12

1 arm ext 4 sets 6*8

Weds

DL 6 sets 120*4 x 2, 100*5 x 4

1 arm row 24*8 x 2 25*6 x 4

pulldown 6 sets 47*12

cablerow 6 sets 42*12-15

ez bar curls 6 sets 10*8

db hammer 6 sets 10*8

Fri

Delt

DB press 6 sets 20*8

Mach press 6 sets 25*12

DB raise 6 sets 8*12

Managed to T up a descent training partner .. 8)

BW 80kg

[Pseudonym]

Love the way you casually post this up as though you'd never stopped. :grin:

[startinfromscratch]

bro!!!!!!!

[jono]

Love the way you casually post this up as though you'd never stopped. :grin:

:grin:

simply rested, never stopped. :grin:

[jono]

bro!!!!!!!

mate...

[jono]

legs

squats 6 sets 90*6

front squats 6 sets 50*8

legpress 6 sets 6pps*6-8

[Big john]

...now this is a blast from the past!, WB mate!

[Growth]

I was almost certain this was some kind of cruel thread necro!

Welcome back mate :grin:

[jono]

...now this is a blast from the past!, WB mate!

thanks mate.. long time