back to basics

[jono]

Shakes are no comparison to real meat. You still get your protein with a shake but there is alot of other goodies in meat.

Good thing us vegetarians have got shakes then :grin:

I just completely dropped soy products from my diet, so I've had to find up to 50 grams of extra protein a day from somewhere else. Just what I need to make my boring diet even more mind numbing.

wow a vegetarian bb. im shocked. i cant imagine what that would be like

[Ash]

wow a vegetarian bb. im shocked. i cant imagine what that would be like

I wrote a brief outline about how I eat in this thread:

http://www.nzbb.co.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=362

[jono]

wow a vegetarian bb. im shocked. i cant imagine what that would be like

I wrote a brief outline about how I eat in this thread:

http://www.nzbb.co.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=362

interesting stuff man.

why did you become a vegetarian ?

[Ash]

wow a vegetarian bb. im shocked. i cant imagine what that would be like

I wrote a brief outline about how I eat in this thread:

http://www.nzbb.co.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=362

interesting stuff man.

why did you become a vegetarian ?

Health reasons mostly. I was eating too much red meat, so I started to cut back. It just kind of got away from me and the next thing I knew, I was a vego. :?

[jono]

I wrote a brief outline about how I eat in this thread:

http://www.nzbb.co.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=362

interesting stuff man.

why did you become a vegetarian ?

Health reasons mostly. I was eating too much red meat, so I started to cut back. It just kind of got away from me and the next thing I knew, I was a vego. :?

health reasons ?? you miss a ton of nutrients not eating any meat. seems kinda weird. i dont think i would ever become a vegetarian

[Growth]

^^^^^ dito, i drool at the site of a nice big raw red steak.

[Ash]

you miss a ton of nutrients not eating any meat. seems kinda weird. i dont think i would ever become a vegetarian

Nutrients schmutrients

I have a theory that vegetarianism works for some people and not for others.

I generally feel great as a vego, as does my wife but for some strange reason, there are people out there who eat a very good vegetarian diet and still end up being sickly and anemic. I've heard theories about people with certain blood groups being more suited to being vegetarian, not sure how valid those theories are though.

Maybe it's all in the mind?

[Varven]

Ash,

how come you choose to cut off eggs? its not soo anti vegetarian is it ?

4 whole eggs and 6 whites only would bump in another wonderfull 40 g of protein to your overall diet everyday !

Well guys I can consider Ash's point of view, Im not a big fan of read meat either, my proteins from chicken, eggs, tuna, seafood and once or twice a week lamb for a change.

But then again red meat eaters do have it easy to get massive whallops of protein in one go right ?

[Ash]

Ash,

how come you choose to cut off eggs? its not soo anti vegetarian is it ?

4 whole eggs and 6 whites only would bump in another wonderfull 40 g of protein to your overall diet everyday !

No real reason. Just didn't really fancy eggs for a while.

I added them back to my diet last week.

[jono]

^^^^^ dito, i drool at the site of a nice big raw red steak.

:grin: steak is the way to go

[jono]

you miss a ton of nutrients not eating any meat. seems kinda weird. i dont think i would ever become a vegetarian

Nutrients schmutrients

I have a theory that vegetarianism works for some people and not for others.

I generally feel great as a vego, as does my wife but for some strange reason, there are people out there who eat a very good vegetarian diet and still end up being sickly and anemic. I've heard theories about people with certain blood groups being more suited to being vegetarian, not sure how valid those theories are though.

Maybe it's all in the mind?

i doubt its in the mind. im sure you are missing out on SOMETHING being a vegetarian.

[jono]

Ash,

how come you choose to cut off eggs? its not soo anti vegetarian is it ?

4 whole eggs and 6 whites only would bump in another wonderfull 40 g of protein to your overall diet everyday !

Well guys I can consider Ash's point of view, Im not a big fan of read meat either, my proteins from chicken, eggs, tuna, seafood and once or twice a week lamb for a change.

But then again red meat eaters do have it easy to get massive whallops of protein in one go right ?

i used to eat chicken as my main source of protien. since ive changed that too beef my gains have gone up significantly

[jono]

Ash,

how come you choose to cut off eggs? its not soo anti vegetarian is it ?

4 whole eggs and 6 whites only would bump in another wonderfull 40 g of protein to your overall diet everyday !

No real reason. Just didn't really fancy eggs for a while.

I added them back to my diet last week.

i used to eat a lot of eggs, now not so much. but eggs are still a good protein source.

[jono]

btw shoulder update: its feeling ok today. so hopefully its nothing major like last time. i feel a lot better about it now

[deegee]

steak everyday jono? I use chicken as my main protien source. steak gets expensive!!

[Ash]

I doubt its in the mind. im sure you are missing out on SOMETHING being a vegetarian.

Could be - I had a full blood test last week. Just about everything is spot on - Haemoglobin is at the upper end of the scale, which is good for a vego.

The only thing that's low probably doesn't have anything to do with being a vego. My testosterone is way down, which is obviously not great news. :cry:

I'll be starting another thread soon to discuss this issue and my "road to recovery".

[Ash]

btw shoulder update: its feeling ok today. so hopefully its nothing major like last time. i feel a lot better about it now

That's great news. My back is still giving me grief but I am managing to train round it.

[Growth]

My testosterone is way down, which is obviously not great news. :cry:

Do you take a multi? Zinc is very important to natural test levels, not sure about the content in meat but i would speculate thats where most of us non-vegens get it from. Did your doc discuss with you how to raise your test levels?

[jono]

steak everyday jono? I use chicken as my main protien source. steak gets expensive!!

i have beef everyday, not always steak. i spend all my money on food basicaly. damn bb :grin:

[Ash]

Do you take a multi? Zinc is very important to natural test levels, not sure about the content in meat but i would speculate thats where most of us non-vegens get it from. Did your doc discuss with you how to raise your test levels?

I take a very good multi but I am still deficient in zinc for some reason I haven't quite figured out yet. I have added elemental zinc every evening.

Check out my new journal thread for details.

[jono]

I doubt its in the mind. im sure you are missing out on SOMETHING being a vegetarian.

Could be - I had a full blood test last week. Just about everything is spot on - Hemoglobin is at the upper end of the scale, which is good for a vego.

The only thing that's low probably doesn't have anything to do with being a vego. My testosterone is way down, which is obviously not great news. :cry:

I'll be starting another thread soon to discuss this issue and my "road to recovery".

low test. that sucks man

[jono]

btw shoulder update: its feeling ok today. so hopefully its nothing major like last time. i feel a lot better about it now

That's great news. My back is still giving me grief but I am managing to train round it.

damn back problems suck. hope it heals up soon man

[jono]

My testosterone is way down, which is obviously not great news. :cry:

Do you take a multi? Zinc is very important to natural test levels, not sure about the content in meat but i would speculate thats where most of us non-vegens get it from. Did your doc discuss with you how to raise your test levels?

i agree on this. multi/zinc is pretty much standard issue for the bb

[deegee]

Good to hear your shoulder injury is not very serious. How much are you spending on food in a week at the mo.

Ash bad news on the test. is that free test or total. look forward to your thread on this

[jono]

Good to hear your shoulder injury is not very serious. How much are you spending on food in a week at the mo.

Ash bad news on the test. is that free test or total. look forward to your thread on this

$100-120

no takeaways.