My Log: The Journey to 85Kg

[Growth]

cheers man, it is good but certainly not easy, im going to have trouble lifting my arms over my head for the next couple of days. Actually im thinking of doing a cycle of creatine for like 4 weeks and see how that goes, and try to eat a little more. Any advice on this...

Also my left is not only weaker but over an inch smaller, and as a result the left pec is bigger than the right. but it doesnt seem to effect the chest ex's only the shoulder ones. How long would you expect an imbalance to come right cause it has been like this since the beginning and doesnt seem to be going away...

Well eating more is certainly going to be a big plus, heaps of people find creatine gives them a good boost, if youve got the money then i dont see why not, what sort of protein intake do you have, also why only a 4 week cycle of creatine, most of the cycling i have seen is for about 8 weeks.

Not sure how long your imbalance will last, mine seemed to dissapear after the first 6 odd months of training, its really and individual thing, as long as you keep lifting correctly the imbalance will receed. Ive seen some crazy people try to correct imbalances by doing things like one db heavier than the other! Some people like to work the weaker part harder, say if it were a bicep by doing and extra set of db curls for the subsequent arm, personally i would just stick with what your doing and give it some time.

[deegee]

try the creatine for 8 weeks, I dont know if you use dbs for chest exsercises or not by they help with size balance more than a bb will. It takes a few months to correct size difference depending on how much it is but everyone is different

[Simo]

Im trying to incorporate as much DB or Cable in so both sides get the same work done, and of course im making sure the form is good and the weaker side isnt cheating.

As for protein, i get like 150-200g a day, not heaps i know. But it comes from good sources (meat, whey). With the creatine, it says to do the loading phase for like 7 days or something and then maintenence for some longer period. With an 8 week cycle, would you load for two say and then maintain for 6 weeks... Also how much extra water will i be needing to drink, i get only about 1.5-2l at the moment, and would the results be less if i didnt drink as much water.

[Varven]

Simo,

Ive experimented with creatine for a while and finally found what works for me. Id like to think Im a self proclaimed creatine guru :roll: lol but heres what works for me :

week1.

20g of creatine a day taken as 5g servings 4 times a day.

You will find your super energised through this period, if you want to increase the effect, start taking 5g of glutamine with each creatine serving, it does help !

week 2

10g creatine a day, this is the cutting down phase..2x5g servings a day

week 3- 8

5g a day.

take about 2 - 4 weeks off.

Cycle again.

1.5 - 2 LTRS water IS NO WHERE NEAR ENOUGH for anyone engaging in weight training trying to gain size !!!

When Im not loading creatine my average daily water intake is at about 4 - 5 ltrs. On workout days about 6 liters.

On creatine Loading week usually about 6 - 7 liters.

This is how you keep up water intake :

get yourself a 1.5 liter water bottle. set time frames to drink through it.

That way I know at the end of the day ive gone through 4.5 - 6 lts of water. if I go for less than 4 ltrs a day i end up with head aches and cant train. water is a big one bro, dont underestimate it.

[jono]

lol 1-2 L !! :grin:

i drink that per hour.

drink that water!!

[Simo]

OK more water, i got bottles of it, i think im going to need to pee heaps more, haha.

Cheers for that VV. il definatley get the water down when loading.

[jono]

OK more water, i got bottles of it, i think im going to need to pee heaps more, haha.

Cheers for that VV. il definatley get the water down when loading.

i normally have 2 goto bathroom every 30min because of my water intake :grin: damn water

[Growth]

i normally have 2 goto bathroom every 30min because of my water intake :grin: damn water

shit :shock: Im guilty of not getting enough water, i need to force it it like food!

Also simo, VV is pretty much on the money, and when your on creatine you should be drinking even more.

[Pseudonym]

Me too... It's silly, because I know my gains are significantly better with more water, but I probably don't drink more than 2L a day (plus a lot more during workouts of course). In my defense, I don't have a very active job, but still... :?

*swigs the remainder of his drink bottle*

[deegee]

I find water can become addictive after a whhile if you keep drining large amounts, I know how it sounds yes, but I find I dont need to force the water in I just keep drinking it all day

[Marcus]

I think the key to drinking enough water is having a big bottle by your desk at work & having a big bottle in the car. I just use a 1.5L soft drink bottle & whenever I look at it I always just start drinking.

[jono]

I find water can become addictive after a whhile if you keep drining large amounts, I know how it sounds yes, but I find I dont need to force the water in I just keep drinking it all day

i agree im addicted to water too :grin:

[jono]

I think the key to drinking enough water is having a big bottle by your desk at work & having a big bottle in the car. I just use a 1.5L soft drink bottle & whenever I look at it I always just start drinking.

yep. always carry a bottle of water at all times

[Simo]

Fridays Workout

Tricep Pushdown + Dip Super Set

24 x 12 SS BW x 10

33 x 8 SS BW x 8

33 x 8 SS BW x 8

39 x 6 SS BW x 8

BB Curls (in the squat rack) :grin:

20 x 6

30 x 6

35 x 4

40 x 3

45 x 3

50 x 1

EZ Bar precher

10 x 15

30 x 10

30 x 8

35 x 8

40 x 3

EZ Bar Tricep Extention

10 x 15

30 x 10

30 x 8

35 x 8

Hammers

8.5 x 10

10 x 10

11 x 8

13.5 x 10

Thought i would do an arm day, as triceps have been negleted of late, also i do bicep with back, and im usually pretty stuffed after back, so it seemed to be a good idea. I was surprised i hadnt lost any strength in tricep work, so il push that alot harder. They feel pretty sore today.

Ur all be pleased to know i got 3L of water beside me now, not quite addited to it yet tho. :pfft:

[deegee]

keep sipping away on the water!

[Growth]

Good job on the bb curls mate, looking very strong.

[jono]

those bb curls are VERY strong. i hope your form is good man.

keep the water coming..

[Simo]

Todays Workout

Squats

60 x 10

70 x 8

75 x 7

80 x 5 (such a weakling)

Lying Leg Curl

24 x 10

30 x 8

30 x 8

30 x 8

Seated Calf Raise

36 x 10

54 x 8

42 x 10

Did a few other things, abs etc, but my legs were pretty sore after this.

I regret neglating them now, as they are pretty weak, will have to try harder. Squats were very tiring.

[Simo]

Also got water upto about 3L, damn hard tho

[Growth]

Nice workout, hows the weight comming along? getting closer to 85? hows your progress been?

[Simo]

I havent got any scales aye, none at the gym either, slack i no, but i no i am heavier, probably just busting 80kg, but yeh dunno, if i dont make it hopefully the water retention from the creatine will push me over, even tho that doesnt mean anything. Strength is going better than ever before so thats good, just need more protien i think.

[Growth]

Just get that food down ya mate. IF your getting the protein your need, the good fats you need, then your going to increase in weight and strength like no tommorow, the creatine will help.

Good job.

[deegee]

If you think you need more protien chances are you do.Make sure that the diet is up there or you are just cheating yourself.

Creatine will help if you respond well to it otherwise you just carry extra water

[jono]

my policy is : id rather eat too much and gain a little fat, than not eat enough, an WASTE my TIME in the gym.

[Simo]

Fridays Workout

BB Bench

20 x 15

60 x 10

70 x 6

90 x 1

DB Press

30 x 8

32 x 4 (right arm failed the last rep, damnit)

Cable Crossover

18 x 8

24 x 8

30 x 8

Pec Fly Machine

39 x 10

51 x 8

63 x 7

Shoulder Press (smith, weight added only)

0 x 10

20 x 8

30 x 6

35 x 4

DB Rear Delts

7.5 x 10

8.5 x 10

10 x 8

11 x 8

Side Laterals

7.5 x 10

8.5 x 10

8.5 x 8

10 x 8

Felt ok today, need more shoulder work, or so it first as im always a little tired after the chest stuff. weight is a little lower as im really concentrating on the form. My pbs for BB Bench is 105x1 and DB Press 32x8, so im working to beat them in the near future. Im eating 4000cals solid and getting about 3l water, today was damn hot and was more like 4l, 8)