DOMS discussion - your opinions please

[poos_n_wees]

does this occurance count as evidence towards DOMS being an indicator for a successful workout?

DOMS & the success of a workout have nothing to do with each other.

Its a lost cause... :clubbed:

[johnny&co]

shucks, i had too google DOMS to find out wat it stood for, shame on me..

:wink:

for me personally,

usually sets in about 24 hours after a work out, but really kicks in 48 hours, and its gone within about 5 to 6 days after setting in

but as for legs its usually straight away, must be coz i train legs till they're wobbly, coz like i really stress them... *is that a good thing?*

which brings me to a question of my own...

when i train biceps, i can never seem to get a doms effect,

even wen i do reps till i burn out, it just doesnt happen for me in that area,

i do this routine with a mate that i train with, and it works fine for himso i stick to wat he does, but for me would adding a few more exercises or upping the weight help with this? dont get me wrong, i mean like sure i feel sore and all after the routine we do, but the next day its like i feel like i never even did a bicep routine, so... help pl0x? idunna :?

routine is as is

alternating db curls

10kgs x 20

14kgs x 15

17kgs x 15

17kgs untill failure

standing bb curls

olympic bar only hehe x 15

'' '' x 15

adding 5kgs each side untill failure x 2

thats bout it......

some times we swap the barbell curls for sets of 21's

ps* does it even matter than i dont feel sore the next day in biceps?

hope wat i wrote makes sence? lol i prolly answered my own question huh? :shifty: :shifty: :shifty:

[ExpensiveUrine]

There's overlap between exercises, so frequency of your bicep training will be higher.

[ohjoshua]

Johnny&co-

Im a big fan of DOMS.

I was like you Biceps was one of the only muscles that didnt get DOMS for days after. Now Ive got it sorted.... here are three things that help me get DOMS.

1. exulsive bicep day. This is an hour long high intensity session where you only do bicep curlz. Involving lots of supersets and dropsets.

2. chin-ups + chin-ups negatives + bicep curls. This is a chin up seeion where you do continuous sets of chin-ups to failure, followed by negatives (jump up and slowy lower youself), followed by a few sets of bicep curls (as many as you can stand).

3. suprisingly enough I first started experiencing DOMS in my biceps after my flys.... Just 3-5 sets with very straight arms and reasonably heavy weight. Then 'cheat' by bending your arm on the way up.

hope this helps.

go DOMS... lol

[poos_n_wees]

1. exulsive bicep day. This is an hour long high intensity session where you only do bicep curlz. Involving lots of supersets and dropsets.

For the love of God.... WHY??? :shock:

Why would you dedicate a whole hour's training to just biceps? Just to get DOMs the next day?

[big MAC]

Johnny&co-

Im a big fan of DOMS.

I was like you Biceps was one of the only muscles that didnt get DOMS for days after. Now Ive got it sorted.... here are three things that help me get DOMS.

1. exulsive bicep day. This is an hour long high intensity session where you only do bicep curlz. Involving lots of supersets and dropsets.

2. chin-ups + chin-ups negatives + bicep curls. This is a chin up seeion where you do continuous sets of chin-ups to failure, followed by negatives (jump up and slowy lower youself), followed by a few sets of bicep curls (as many as you can stand).

3. suprisingly enough I first started experiencing DOMS in my biceps after my flys.... Just 3-5 sets with very straight arms and reasonably heavy weight. Then 'cheat' by bending your arm on the way up.

hope this helps.

go DOMS... lol

The way your training is going, you're probably never going to be that strong. You're not going to be nearly as big as you could be. It might get you laid and your buddies might think you're the man for walking around in pain all the time, but it's just alot of wasted time you're putting in.

That's the truth. Dunno why I even care, though I think its just hoping that you won't get a convert to your style of training at your gym.

[ohjoshua]

The way your training is going, you're probably never going to be that strong. You're not going to be nearly as big as you could be. It might get you laid and your buddies might think you're the man for walking around in pain all the time, but it's just alot of wasted time you're putting in.

That's the truth. Dunno why I even care, though I think its just hoping that you won't get a convert to your style of training at your gym.

:cry: what did i ever do to you?

Thanks for feedback.... But im my opinion any thing that might get you laid isnt a waste of time.

[Marcus]

I think BM is meaning that you're overdoing it man. There's no need to just bicep curl for an hour. Do you squat for an hour too?

It makes no sense to train that way.

[JoseCharez]

Johnny&co-

Im a big fan of DOMS.

I was like you Biceps was one of the only muscles that didnt get DOMS for days after. Now Ive got it sorted.... here are three things that help me get DOMS.

1. exulsive bicep day. This is an hour long high intensity session where you only do bicep curlz. Involving lots of supersets and dropsets.

2. chin-ups + chin-ups negatives + bicep curls. This is a chin up seeion where you do continuous sets of chin-ups to failure, followed by negatives (jump up and slowy lower youself), followed by a few sets of bicep curls (as many as you can stand).

3. suprisingly enough I first started experiencing DOMS in my biceps after my flys.... Just 3-5 sets with very straight arms and reasonably heavy weight. Then 'cheat' by bending your arm on the way up.

hope this helps.

go DOMS... lol

The way your training is going, you're probably never going to be that strong. You're not going to be nearly as big as you could be. It might get you laid and your buddies might think you're the man for walking around in pain all the time, but it's just alot of wasted time you're putting in.

That's the truth. Dunno why I even care, though I think its just hoping that you won't get a convert to your style of training at your gym.

OWNED. lol

[big MAC]

The way your training is going, you're probably never going to be that strong. You're not going to be nearly as big as you could be. It might get you laid and your buddies might think you're the man for walking around in pain all the time, but it's just alot of wasted time you're putting in.

That's the truth. Dunno why I even care, though I think its just hoping that you won't get a convert to your style of training at your gym.

:cry: what did i ever do to you?

Thanks for feedback.... But im my opinion any thing that might get you laid isnt a waste of time.

What did you do to me? Nothing, you just didn't listen to my good mate Expensiveurines advice. The guy knows a ton, understands bodybuilding and is well on his way to becoming one of the strongest men ever in NZ. It hurts a small bit for me to see people training in a stupid way despite more knowledgeable people showing them otherwise. I taught myself to lift when I was younger, I did some dangerous and unhelpful things and I've mostly got out of that pattern thanks to listening to people who know better.

[Phantomb]

Here's my $0.02.

I find that DOMS comes from two places.

1. Beginning training a new area

2. Making my training more effective and more intense.

So for my current state, I've had some pretty serious DOMS all over - my tris seem to get it particularly bad anyway.

But as far as keeping that going? I'm going to have to find new ways to make it hurt.....but that's not going to involve over-training.

eg. If I want to kick-start my biceps then I'll do what I did this morning. Nice and slow.