mike-311 Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 can high reppin for total pump till failure increase muscle size, just as much as low reppin on ultra heavy?or is it strictly toning and bugger all else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammo Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 It's strictly for noobies and bugger all else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbelldog Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 and by the way there is no suck thing as toning, take it from your vocabulary and destroy it. High reps are great for legs but still need to be done heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammo Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 and by the way there is no suck thing as toning, take it from your vocabulary and destroy it. High reps are great for legs but still need to be done heavy.Agreed.Muscles do two things - get bigger or get smaller."Toning" is just a fancy name for dropping bodyfat.Getting a good pump also means jack in regards to how effective a workout is - all it is is an increased flow of blood to the muscle.Lift heavy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronGame Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 and by the way there is no suck thing as toning, take it from your vocabulary and destroy it. High reps are great for legs but still need to be done heavy.Well put, but I do think high reps do have there place, just not as the main staple of your training. They are good for recovery and creating new capiliries which in turn feed the muscles more nutrients.Lift hard and heavy and maby fininsh of with a high rep set or a drop set every now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keats Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Lift hard and heavy and maby fininsh of with a high rep set or a drop set every now and then.Thats a good and effective way to go, I have been doing this for years and find the occasional drop set fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbelldog Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 and by the way there is no suck thing as toning, take it from your vocabulary and destroy it. High reps are great for legs but still need to be done heavy.Well put, but I do think high reps do have there place, just not as the main staple of your training. They are good for recovery and creating new capiliries which in turn feed the muscles more nutrients.Lift hard and heavy and maby fininsh of with a high rep set or a drop set every now and then.I agree they will actually grow your arteries as well from forcing increased blood flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelk Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 feed the muscles more nutrients. BingoLast night was high rep legs night, 3sets of 15 on the Hack, followed by 5 sets of 20- Putting the weight up by a plate every time-the last 3 sets were absolute murder, followed by Leg Press (6 plates per side) 1 set of 20 and 1 set of 25 (7plates a side).It was fun :twisted: I'm also a big advocate of high rep calf training once a week, pumping the muscle til it's damn near bursting.We go week on week off, ie heavy week/light week.They all have there place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted November 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 [Lift hard and heavy and maby fininsh of with a high rep set or a drop set every now and then.this is how i do my training, im glad there is a place for high reps. i love finishing a heavy routine with a good pump, kinda like somthing to take home to show the missus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamWelly Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 I've trained pretty much the same way for the past 2 years. 6-8 reps to failure with Moderate to High Weight. Seemed to be working well, but I've recently balooned by chucking in a blowout set to each muscle - Ussualy consisting of 12 reps of an average weight with a long range of movement, Kickbacks for Tris, Pullups for Bi's and Reverse flys for back. I'm not a big fan of working to get a pump, I work more towards an exhaution and burn that makes it hard to push the changing room door open on the way out :nod: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig.j Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 and by the way there is no suck thing as toning, take it from your vocabulary and destroy it. High reps are great for legs but still need to be done heavy.toning is the amount of muscle contracted at rest. if you never work out you will have little tone.by lifting 4-6 reps or 20+ reps will increase the tone the muscle keeps at rest.there is no reason to worry about this just get in the gym and work on geting stronger! 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 by lifting 4-6 reps or 20+ reps will increase the tone the muscle keeps at rest.so wat does 7-19 rep range induce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig.j Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 by lifting 4-6 reps or 20+ reps will increase the tone the muscle keeps at rest.so wat does 7-19 rep range induce?im just suggesting that using the muscle and placing stress on it will increase the tone the muscle keeps. the rest is genetics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronGame Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 by lifting 4-6 reps or 20+ reps will increase the tone the muscle keeps at rest.so wat does 7-19 rep range induce?Hypertrophy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbelldog Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 by lifting 4-6 reps or 20+ reps will increase the tone the muscle keeps at rest.so wat does 7-19 rep range induce?Hypertrophy!exactly f**** toning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZPT Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 IronGame wrote:Small wrote:Quote:by lifting 4-6 reps or 20+ reps will increase the tone the muscle keeps at rest.so wat does 7-19 rep range induce?Hypertrophy!exactly f**** toningand muscular endurance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig.j Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 and by the way there is no suck thing as toning, take it from your vocabulary and destroy it. High reps are great for legs but still need to be done heavy.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_toneno references used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 I just learnt something. One of the articles Wikipedia linked to was good too...Tone vs Strength Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 feed the muscles more nutrients. BingoLast night was high rep legs night, 3sets of 15 on the Hack, followed by 5 sets of 20- Putting the weight up by a plate every time-the last 3 sets were absolute murder, followed by Leg Press (6 plates per side) 1 set of 20 and 1 set of 25 (7plates a side).It was fun :twisted: I'm also a big advocate of high rep calf training once a week, pumping the muscle til it's damn near bursting.so what it the total weight with 7 pts a side? 280k?We go week on week off, ie heavy week/light week.They all have there place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelk Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Ahhh people editing my quotes, that'll get you in trouble around here won't it :wink: but I get the gist of the question, I think, yeah 7 plates a side is 7x 20 is 280kg. Sometimes we put a 20 on only one side and call it 7 and a half:)When the body is shattered the brain doesn't want to do the maths of calculating by 20's. I'm busy watching the clock so I'm ready to go again after 2 mins rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 Roger! i didnt mean to f*ck with ya quate mike,i put me question in the wrong spot, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheta Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 I dont do high reps personally. Even when leaning up. I stick all my rep ranges at 6-8.Depends what works for ya I s'pose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 im training like this currently if i do 4 sets for a exercise ill do one at 12 reps one at 10 one at 8 and one at 6 reps. upping the weights as i lower the reps. after the 6 rep on the last set i will sometimes grab a lighter weight and do a mini drop set just to rep it out.this way is just as good as any other way as long as im hitting all the muscle groups.there is no rigt or wrong way to train with out being stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronGame Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 there is no rigt or wrong way to train with out being stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigboy Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 The number of reps depends also on the muscle or group being exercised. For example, calves can do higher reps as compared to say biceps. This is just fundamentally how those muscles are made, and the purpose they were intended to be used for. You can't escape this simply physiological reality -so reps must be put into context of the muscle/group being exercised as oppsoed to generalising rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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