best PCT

[Muscles96]

Am in my 40's and had low testosterone prior to starting cycles.  Did 2 short cycles of 250mcg test e with great results (as well as hard gym work and good diet). Had 10 weeks break in between cycles to recover and cut back down. Just finished an 8 week cycle at 500mg test e.  Had no side effects and felt great during cycle.  On the lower dose I had no problems stopping without PCT. However am now 3 weeks post and am having low testosterone symptoms and some reduction in testicular size.

 

Would clomid be best to restart my natural testosterone production? It also seems effective as restoring testosterone in general (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22951175). Is anybody taking this long term? 

 

Or would arimistane be better?

 

Cheers

 

 

 

[Daz69]

7 hours ago, Muscles96 said:

Am in my 40's and had low testosterone prior to starting cycles.  Did 2 short cycles of 250mcg test e with great results (as well as hard gym work and good diet). Had 10 weeks break in between cycles to recover and cut back down. Just finished an 8 week cycle at 500mg test e.  Had no side effects and felt great during cycle.  On the lower dose I had no problems stopping without PCT. However am now 3 weeks post and am having low testosterone symptoms and some reduction in testicular size.

 

Would clomid be best to restart my natural testosterone production? It also seems effective as restoring testosterone in general (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22951175). Is anybody taking this long term? 

 

Or would arimistane be better?

 

Cheers

 

 

 

 

Research shows you'll probably recover fine without inducing GnRH , LH, FSH via Clomiphene..

 

A slow taper off end of cycle whilst employing a very low dose AI might have been a better option, to lower estradiol as testosterone lowered also..

[Muscles96]

Thanks for the reply daz.

Yes things should return back to normal:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6788960/

 

Is anybody getting clomid prescribed, as it doubles your baseline testosterone and can be used long term with minimal side effects 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5182219/

 

It seems like in  europe it is easy to get, but in nz it is off label for men. You would think maintaining endogenous test production with clomid would be better than long term test supplementation. 

[Wheytimeisover]

9 hours ago, Muscles96 said:

Thanks for the reply daz.

Yes things should return back to normal:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6788960/

 

Is anybody getting clomid prescribed, as it doubles your baseline testosterone and can be used long term with minimal side effects 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5182219/

 

It seems like in  europe it is easy to get, but in nz it is off label for men. You would think maintaining endogenous test production with clomid would be better than long term test supplementation. 

Some get permanent vision side effects from clomid

[Daz69]

On 02/11/2019 at 9:09 PM, Muscles96 said:

Thanks for the reply daz.

Yes things should return back to normal:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6788960/

 

Is anybody getting clomid prescribed, as it doubles your baseline testosterone and can be used long term with minimal side effects 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5182219/

 

It seems like in  europe it is easy to get, but in nz it is off label for men. You would think maintaining endogenous test production with clomid would be better than long term test supplementation. 

 

Estrogen is essential to our physiology you don't want to be antagonising receptors over long periods..