Big_J Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 Does anybody know whether the nzfbb has ever considered lowering the prices for teenage and possibly junior members? or those studying at uni?Alot of people talk about teenagers getting into the sport and unless your family backs you and wants to spend quite alot of money on helping you to do a show or persue a passion in this sport then your paying what is alot of money even for full time workers let alone students.the majority of people on this board may not agree with me as most of you are probably not teens.. and i personally know that if it wasnt for my parents i would not be competing due to $$ .. tanning products alone cost alot.. i also know of teenagers that would love to compete but dont simply due to cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 get a job or sell some drugs u bum :pfft: :pfft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterTel Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 That's not a bad idea, Big_J, but event entry fees are only a very small part of the overall cost of preparing for and competing in a bodybuilding show. Up until recently, NZFBB regional event fees have been $15, which is not really a lot for a competitor to pay compared to the hundreds or even thousands of dollars that an average competitor would spend on gym fees, groceries, supplements, posing trunks, tanning products etc over a 6-12 month period.Just a note - NZFBB regional event fees have now been raised to $25 per event. It may seem like a big jump in one go, but it is at least 7 years since the fee was last increased, so it's just keeping up with inflation and ensuring we help cover event costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_J Posted August 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 so for registration and entry its $70?25 for event and 45 for registration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterTel Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 It's now $25 for the entry (or registration) fee - what you refer to as the registration fee is the annual membership fee. This membership fee also has gone up - from $45 to $60. As with event fees, the membership fee had been $45 as long as I can remember (since 2001).Some people will claim this is unfair, but keep in mind that this membership fee helps fund various NZFBB expenses like postage & fax, phone rental & tolls, photocopying, accountant fees, IFBB affiliation fee, lawyers fees, executive meeting costs (airfares, conference calls) etc. The total of these misc expenses was just over $18,000 in the 12 months to June 30, 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 mastertell i think u woukld make a good president for the nzfbb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterTel Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 mastertell i think u woukld make a good president for the nzfbb Ha ha, - thanks for the compliment, 2guns, but I'm more than happy to just organise events and do my bit on the Executive.Assuming that Mark Stewart does step down in 2009 and/or someone else stands against him, it will be interesting to see who gets the job (NZFBB President) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbelldog Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 I bet Moe puts his hat in the ring, nothing more sure, in fact I'm going to be a little contriversial and say he almost runs it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw53 Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 It's now $25 for the entry (or registration) fee - what you refer to as the registration fee is the annual membership fee. This membership fee also has gone up - from $45 to $60. As with event fees, the membership fee had been $45 as long as I can remember (since 2001).Some people will claim this is unfair, but keep in mind that this membership fee helps fund various NZFBB expenses like postage & fax, phone rental & tolls, photocopying, accountant fees, IFBB affiliation fee, lawyers fees, executive meeting costs (airfares, conference calls) etc. The total of these misc expenses was just over $18,000 in the 12 months to June 30, 2007.Excellent post mate.Seriously, complaining about $15-$25 is ridiculous. Comps don't run on fresh air. What Master Tel has listed above is what you are paying for. As you can see, everyone gets paid except the guy running the show.You are getting a great deal, stop complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_J Posted August 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 i will complain where i want to... and it wasnt even a complaint to start, more of a suggestion.. if you dont want to read then dont.. i dont understand why people on forums get all angry when there are disagrements, nothing is perfect and everbody has a different view on different things. what is a forum if everything agrees on everything? there would be no topics for discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw53 Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 i will complain where i want to... and it wasnt even a complaint to start, more of a suggestion.. if you dont want to read then dont.. i dont understand why people on forums get all angry when there are disagrements, nothing is perfect and everbody has a different view on different things. what is a forum if everything agrees on everything? there would be no topics for discussionO.K then, go ahead and complain, who cares.I wasn't angry, you're the only one getting angry around here, but I do disagree.$15-$25 bucks is not going to make much difference to your expenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_J Posted August 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 How do you know im getting angry?im not it was merely a suggestion.. dont blow up about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 in fact I'm going to be a little contriversial and say he almost runs it now! :pfft: :pfft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterTel Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Regardless of whether anyone is "angry" - it was an interesting suggestion in the first place, Big_J.Like I said earlier, and backed up by Outlaw - an extra $15 to $25 is not a lot compared to the overall cost of competing. Sure, teenagers may struggle to find the $$$ to compete, but so do older competitors who have families to support, mortgages to pay etc. There are plenty of sports that cost a lot more.Perhaps one thing the NZFBB could do to reduce competitor expenses is to help them raise money e.g. have a raffle where members get a % of each ticket they sell off their membership/registration fees? The NZFBB would also be able to make some money on it. I might raise this at our next Exec meeting next month?I also reckon that more competitors should try and get their own sponsorship - even if it's from their local supermarket or other small businesses. Every little bit helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 jus to let uno nabba does discount for teenage competitors..atleast peter hardwick does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 yes peters a really good guy, looks out for wats best for the sport and helps out competitors not wats best for his pocket like some involved in the sport.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_J Posted August 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 yea i prefer nabba.. pity there nationals are in chch or else i wouldnt be doing nzfbb.. but ohwell hopefully the extra prices mean better prizes :pfft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterTel Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 yes peters a really good guy, looks out for wats best for the sport and helps out competitors not wats best for his pocket like some involved in the sport..I agree that Peter is, like all other event organisers I know, doing their utmost for the competitors and bodybuilding in general. But, being an event organiser myself, I can't see how anyone could fit the description of the 2nd part of your statement. Can you elaborate, 2guns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 yes peters a really good guy, looks out for wats best for the sport and helps out competitors not wats best for his pocket like some involved in the sport..I second that. Peter's always good for a yarn too. He's got a few good stories!MT, I second 2gun's statement before. You should run for President in 2009. There's a good reason why NZ's political powerbase is in Wellington not Auckland, why shouldn't the NZFBB be the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outlaw53 Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 I've judged with Peter once over here in Aust. He is definitely a nice bloke.So how much is it to enter a NABBA show in NZ & what sort of discount is it for Juniors.I still think this is a bit of a storm in a teacup.If you were to plan to compete & were to give yourself a 12-16 week lead-in, all you would need to do is to save $1-$2 per week & you would have your Entry Fee paid for.This works out to around 15c-30c a day. It can't be that hard.We used to do paper rounds or mow neighbours lawns for a few spare dollars over here in Aust. Perhaps you guys could do the same?You could factor the exercise into your cardio program. Get rich & shredded at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterTel Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 MT, I second 2gun's statement before. You should run for President in 2009. There's a good reason why NZ's political powerbase is in Wellington not Auckland, why shouldn't the NZFBB be the same?Thanks, Waldo, but I'm happy doing what I'm doing now. My personal opinion is that the next President should not also be loaded with the extra responsibility that Mark Stewart currently has - multiple event organiser, judge and part-time secretary for the NZFBB.Don't get me wrong - Mark has always had my full support and admiration for what he does, but I doubt anyone else could handle that workload as effectively as he has done for so many years.Plus I also want to continue competing for several years, and as things currently stand I am not allowed to compete for anyone outside the NZFBB while I am on the Exec. I would love to do more NABBA events in the future and perhaps an INBA show, but I'd have to resign from the Exec first. I don't agree with that "rule", but that's the way it is at the moment. I'm still very keen to continue organising NZFBB events as long as they want me to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 MT, having dealt with the NFZBB for a little while now, my opinion is they would be absolutely mad to lose you from the Exec. You have bent over backwards for them in the past, and that should be acknowledged. I sincerely hope you can get the nationals to Wellington in 2008. Wellington's nightlife would serve up a far better post competition session than Auckland. :pfft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoan_muscle Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Wellington's nightlife would serve up a far better post competition session than Auckland. :pfft:Awww c'mon...nothing beats flight lounge or spy :pfft: :pfft: :pfft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Ok, so Spy can be good on any given night. I don't like it's proximity to the Viaduct though. Would much rather be up at Ink! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted August 7, 2007 Report Share Posted August 7, 2007 Plus I also want to continue competing for several years, and as things currently stand I am not allowed to compete for anyone outside the NZFBB while I am on the Exec.im sorry MT, but i have never heard of such bullshit. u should be able to do wat u want with regard to that, wat rubbish.who made tht 'new rule' anyway? marc stewart or moe mossawi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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