My tren experience

[bang_bang]

Finished my first tren cycle a couple of weeks ago so thought I'd share my experience and thoughts on it. Obviously it'll be different for everyone. 

 

First 6 weeks were fucking awesome, I was doing 350mg tren ace and about 500mg test sus a week. Strength went through the roof and I got visibly leaner. Side effects were minimal, all I really noticed was disturbed sleep, sweating a bit at night and being horny as otherwise I just felt fucking unstoppable and I was on track for a mid 700s total. 

 

Week 5-6

 

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After week 6 things started going downhill. I kicked my partner out for no reason. I just decided on the spot without giving it any prior thought. We'd been in a perfectly happy stable relationship for 2.5 years prior to this. I wasn't capable of feeling empathy anymore and didn't give a f*ck about anything or anyone. I started eating and sleeping f*ck all and generally being an absolute predator. My strength quickly started to plummet and I tried to make it up by injecting more tren. Id go a few days without pinning and then pin 6ml in two days. Sides started increasing night sweats were insane I had to sleep on towels, I started to get gyno and losing a bit of hair. Then I started taking speed pre workout. This quickly escalated to lines every day and I was getting very very little sleep. The night before I flew to nationals I took about half a gram and literally didn't sleep before I got on the plane the next morning. Needless to say it didn't go well. I ended up going 230/177.5/265 lol. 

 

Anyway I've been off it for two weeks now and things have returned to normal. It almost feels like I've woken up from a dream. Obviously it's still early days but I'm actually feeling a hell of a lot better. Been sleeping a lot, not doing any drugs and feel like myself again. I don't really regret doing it but I do regret the way I treated my ex. It was disgraceful and I never want to hurt anyone like that again. I'll be a lot more careful in future. I'd only consider using it for 5-6 weeks leading into a meet. I had been using gear for 3 years before using it and it wasn't a decision I took lightly having heard all the horror stories about it. I thought I'd be fine but I wasn't. If your new to gear forget about it there's absolutely no need for you to touch it there are far better options out there. 

 

 

[maccaz]

good post brah, we joke about this kind of shit but its very real.

i was the same, but not to that extent.

def lose all emotion and stop caring about people.

 

i think in future, less dose, for shorter period of time, or nothing.

 

we all think we invincible but end of the day its a strong drug and can affect mentally as much as physically.

 

 

[PETN]

Pretty similar to my experience except I already didn't have empathy/give a f*ck and my strength stopped going up after whatever number of weeks but didn't plummet. Had same thing happen with gf too but wasn't using tren at the time (think test, npp, mast and duramine lol) and just threw my shit in ute and drove off. Got back with her after 9months though. Definitely is something that causes gland growth for me which was main issue I had with it. If it wasn't for that I'd possibly still use it.

 

Run 1g test. Get some TNE and use that preworkout and maybe an oral for few weeks  and stop orals once you start losing appetite, then few weeks off then back on. Superdrol best oral I've tried. No gyno side effects and you look/feel hard as f*ck on it and good strength. Downside is it kills appetite but if you don't run retarded doses it's fine for 2-3 weeks. Make sure you eat properly and train properly..more important than upping the gear as that will just make you eat even less. IME that's way to go for decent strength with minimal sides.

[HarryB]

What led to bumping speed pre workout, tren bad enough on its own, tren + speed... appetite = non existent and rational thinking = minus 1 million 

 

Good informative post thanks for sharing the experience. 

 

 

[bang_bang]

49 minutes ago, HarryB said:

What led to bumping speed pre workout, tren bad enough on its own, tren + speed... appetite = non existent and rational thinking = minus 1 million 

 

Good informative post thanks for sharing the experience. 

 

 

 

I dunno bro I was just off the rails. I've never had a bad drug or alcohol problem. 

[HarryB]

OK just bad decision making. We've all done that lol at least you're past it now and can apply what that experience taught you. 

[kiwicannon]

Fucking Brilliant Post Bro!! Yeah i been there done that too bro so i can relate hard! Cheers for sharing this private informative info with everyone! Respect to you man!

 

I have a love / hate relationship with this drug and ill only cycle this 6 weeks max done 12 wks in the past and ill NEVER venture there again not only did it drastically change me physically it FUCKED me over emotionally!!  The wife and kids suffered badly for it!  Was it worth it?... well Yes and No.

 

Hope all is on track for you again mate.

[tyreguy]

Much respect OP, Thanks for that  insight into what one will do for the love of the sport, and what you sacrificed. Not something id be trying anytime soon. 

 

 

[Skeletor]

6 hours ago, PETN said:

Pretty similar to my experience except I already didn't have empathy/give a f*ck and my strength stopped going up after whatever number of weeks but didn't plummet. Had same thing happen with gf too but wasn't using tren at the time (think test, npp, mast and duramine lol) and just threw my shit in ute and drove off. Got back with her after 9months though. Definitely is something that causes gland growth for me which was main issue I had with it. If it wasn't for that I'd possibly still use it.

 

Run 1g test. Get some TNE and use that preworkout and maybe an oral for few weeks  and stop orals once you start losing appetite, then few weeks off then back on. Superdrol best oral I've tried. No gyno side effects and you look/feel hard as f*ck on it and good strength. Downside is it kills appetite but if you don't run retarded doses it's fine for 2-3 weeks. Make sure you eat properly and train properly..more important than upping the gear as that will just make you eat even less. IME that's way to go for decent strength with minimal sides.

Excuse my stupidity but what's TNE bro?   Funny I'd just been talking with a very experienced strength athlete and his recommendation was pretty much exactly what you just laid out in regard to test and SD. 

[PETN]

13 minutes ago, Skeletor said:

Excuse my stupidity but what's TNE bro?   Funny I'd just been talking with a very experienced strength athlete and his recommendation was pretty much exactly what you just laid out in regard to test and SD. 

 

TNE = test no ester. Test base dissolved in oil/solvents. Solvents are a bit different to your standard BB BA mix. EO and guaicol too so probably why not so available? To me it seems pretty comparable to using an oral. Definitely notice I'm weaker if I forget to pin some compared to previous session doing same excercises where I didn't forget.

[bang_bang]

5 minutes ago, PETN said:

 

TNE = test no ester. Test base dissolved in oil/solvents. Solvents are a bit different to your standard BB BA mix. EO and guaicol too so probably why not so available? To me it seems pretty comparable to using an oral. Definitely notice I'm weaker if I forget to pin some compared to previous session doing same excercises where I didn't forget.

Popular with tested athletes apparently 

[kiwicannon]

28 minutes ago, PETN said:

 

TNE = test no ester. Test base dissolved in oil/solvents. Solvents are a bit different to your standard BB BA mix. EO and guaicol too so probably why not so available? To me it seems pretty comparable to using an oral. Definitely notice I'm weaker if I forget to pin some compared to previous session doing same excercises where I didn't forget.

TNE (Test Suspension) is a Water based injectable like Stanazolol using a PEG and polysorbate 80 etc you can brew using non PEG which i prefer,  or OIL based using Ethyl Oleate and Guaiacol but godamn that Guaiacol stinks to high heaven!! and some users have an allergic reaction to EO.

 

 Best to Pin TNE multiple times ED due to having no ester attached

 

Strength athletes tend to utilise Halo pre train 

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

the video says yes but the words says no, nice write up bangs

[PETN]

I just use the TNE  preworkout only as well as use an esterified test. I don't see why you'd do a TNE only (in terms of test) cycle which would be the only reason for pinning it every few hours in tiny amounts. That's why they make terrified compounds, so you don't have to pin often to maintain relatively stable hormone levels. Whole point of using TNE though is to get a big test spike going you're training.

 

On days I don't train I wouldn't use it. Probably why it's lasting so long lol.

[woody]

unfortunately bang bangs experience is more common than youd think,have heard the same from many first time tren users.,and turning to other drugs while on tren almost seems to be a trend.simply being aware of the way tren seems to sneak up on one self and some how changes our very character is something you need to stay mindfull of through out the entire cycle,if you feel yourself confused or unsure of aspects of your life you were fine with before tren,remind yourself your taking a substance known for exactly that. and leaving things for a few weeks no matter how convinced you are your thinking is "on track" is a good idea.

[Realtalk]

That's really really sad man. Should have just stopped and thrown the competition in. Not worth it.

[Pseudonym]

Bang_bang, thanks for sharing your story. I think there's an unfortunate tendency among the steroid using community to make light of the side effects. You know... "Aggression's not really a problem unless you're unstable in the first place." Or "It's only a problem if you take massive doses." Or "There's a difference between use and abuse."

 

I think that's what everyone wants to be true. That it won't happen to them. But the fact is, this can and does still affect normal people doing not-that-massive doses. Unfortunately you're living proof of that.

 

I have a question, and I hope this doesn't sound too harsh... From where I'm sitting it looks to me like you lost an awful lot through this cycle (relationship, health, competition, rational thinking), and gained relatively little (short-term strength and physique gains). But you say that you don't regret doing this. My question is: what do you feel you gained from this that outweighed the losses?

 

Again, thanks for posting this. I'm pleased you're on the path back to normality. Hopefully you can even recover that relationship.

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

from my point of view he gained a strong life lesson relatively early on in life and lived to share the the tale to others, those kind of mistakes once you learn it you generally dont repeat unless you really do have a problem. probably even a few here who may have been on the fence who are now reconsidering. thx for sharing the experience , both good and bad

[jlnz]

This was very informative, thanks.

[ratz99]

Does anyone else here not go fuckn nuts on it ?? Sometimes I snap a bit and get angry but I don't think you can completely blame Tren for your agression. My sides (night sweats etc) subsided after 8 weeks. I feel I  can control it if I just chill and think about it as I go. Then again, i don't really run outrageous doses lol.  People probs say well your stuffs under dosed but progress indicates otherwise. IDK, just interesting to see how it affects everyone differently...

[bang_bang]

@Pseudonym basically what FOTR said. What I gained didn't out weigh the losses but I learnt a hell of a lesson and I feel a lot wiser for it. It was something I wasn't going to learn until I'd experienced it myself. Also despite what happened, it certainly wasn't all bad. The confidence and feeling of invincibility tren gives you is something else. 

 

@ratz99 I didn't have any issues with aggression whatsoever. 

[MightyThor]

Awesome post bro, insightful, honest and informative. I haven't done a cycle of anything yet, although I'm keen to try test e but I'd likely respond to tren similarly and throw some speed in there to deal with the fallout, I'm susceptible in that way. Hope you get your girl back if she was something special to you man. 

[ratz99]

17 hours ago, bang_bang said:

@Pseudonym basically what FOTR said. What I gained didn't out weigh the losses but I learnt a hell of a lesson and I feel a lot wiser for it. It was something I wasn't going to learn until I'd experienced it myself. Also despite what happened, it certainly wasn't all bad. The confidence and feeling of invincibility tren gives you is something else. 

 

@ratz99 I didn't have any issues with aggression whatsoever. 

Yeah allgood man, when I said go nuts I mostly meant how it made you lose empathy etc. I had that for a few days but I think it was because I crashed my estrogen taking too much adex. Do feel a little distant sometimes. Crazy shit either way that you had. Hope it all works out with recovery for you etc.