Up tren or nah?

[Realtalk]

700 tren?

[ratz99]

f*ck it ima up the tren. 

[PETN]

Do you think you had subconsciously made a decision before posting here? I.e. always going to do that irrespective of what people said in this thread?

[HarryB]

Yes I think he did

[bang_bang]

Lol

[ratz99]

Haha perhaps. I really was on the fence though. Like you said earlier can always try it and lower it if its not worth it. I think it was you anyway? Someone said it lol

[maccaz]

Same as usual. People gonna do what they gonna do, but last step was to post about it and hope he gets at least one person encouraging him 

[ratz99]

23 minutes ago, maccaz said:

Same as usual. People gonna do what they gonna do, but last step was to post about it and hope he gets at least one person encouraging him 

Well it was good to hear peoples experiences anyway. At least to make an informed decision. For example I won't go over 700 as from what people have said here it isnt worth it. The responses were a bit mixed really.

[Realtalk]

The problem I see all too often is to do with priorities. People missing meals and gym sessions but would never miss Their tren shot.

 

makes no sense to me.

 

look if 450mg a week ain't doing shit for you, then trust me 700 won't either.

[ratz99]

34 minutes ago, Realtalk said:

The problem I see all too often is to do with priorities. People missing meals and gym sessions but would never miss Their tren shot.

 

makes no sense to me.

 

look if 450mg a week ain't doing shit for you, then trust me 700 won't either.

Unsure if thats directed at me but Who said it wasn't?  Lolz I just want more and faster. Im making great progress imo. Im curious to see what its like.  2 months ago I was a little runt now im back to where I was and more after not gyming for yonks. Really pushing my shit this time. 

[Realtalk]

29 minutes ago, ratz99 said:

Unsure if thats directed at me but Who said it wasn't?  Lolz I just want more and faster. Im making great progress imo. Im curious to see what its like.  2 months ago I was a little runt now im back to where I was and more after not gyming for yonks. Really pushing my shit this time. 

 

Not directed at you. Just commenting on the thread. I could say lots more but I best not. 

[ratz99]

7 minutes ago, Realtalk said:

 

Not directed at you. Just commenting on the thread. I could say lots more but I best not. 

Haha Allgood mate. Kinda fair if you were. I probably have come across the wrong way with the OP then deciding to up it anyway. None the less if you wanna say it fire away, im always keen to hear from more experienced people. Can't promise I wont make the wrong decisions anyway though ha.

[HarryB]

Well if  nothing else upping the dosage will give you a reference point for what's effective for you. When guys amp up their dosing it's always interesting to see if there's a corresponding increase in size and strength. For the most part if someone has been running say a gram of test and 500 tren for a couple of months then increasing the dosing by 50% doesn't give a corresponding increase in gains. Often it doesn't provide any extra benefit. But that same lifter adds 20% to his calories and keeps the drug intake the same he starts to grow and get stronger again. Or if he backs off and has a break then when he starts again he will exceed his previous plateau with the same amount of gear. I guess it's down to the individual but who wants to run a shitload of gear to be lifting very average weights and if the mentality is just to take more and more.. how far do you take it? It's a circular argument and trying to convince someone that more gear isn't better is always hard. Funny how every c*nt is easily convinced it's more productive to train less though ;)

[ratz99]

1 hour ago, HarryB said:

Well if  nothing else upping the dosage will give you a reference point for what's effective for you. When guys amp up their dosing it's always interesting to see if there's a corresponding increase in size and strength. For the most part if someone has been running say a gram of test and 500 tren for a couple of months then increasing the dosing by 50% doesn't give a corresponding increase in gains. Often it doesn't provide any extra benefit. But that same lifter adds 20% to his calories and keeps the drug intake the same he starts to grow and get stronger again. Or if he backs off and has a break then when he starts again he will exceed his previous plateau with the same amount of gear. I guess it's down to the individual but who wants to run a shitload of gear to be lifting very average weights and if the mentality is just to take more and more.. how far do you take it? It's a circular argument and trying to convince someone that more gear isn't better is always hard. Funny how every c*nt is easily convinced it's more productive to train less though ;)

Yeah thats true, it may well do nothing as some people have said. Either way as you said a reference point to see what works best will be good.

[Bigken1985]

On 7/14/2016 at 3:07 PM, HarryB said:

Well if  nothing else upping the dosage will give you a reference point for what's effective for you. When guys amp up their dosing it's always interesting to see if there's a corresponding increase in size and strength. For the most part if someone has been running say a gram of test and 500 tren for a couple of months then increasing the dosing by 50% doesn't give a corresponding increase in gains. Often it doesn't provide any extra benefit. But that same lifter adds 20% to his calories and keeps the drug intake the same he starts to grow and get stronger again. Or if he backs off and has a break then when he starts again he will exceed his previous plateau with the same amount of gear. I guess it's down to the individual but who wants to run a shitload of gear to be lifting very average weights and if the mentality is just to take more and more.. how far do you take it? It's a circular argument and trying to convince someone that more gear isn't better is always hard. Funny how every c*nt is easily convinced it's more productive to train less though ;)

#bostinLoyd

[woody]

for me 800mgs is when things really start to change.both sides and gainstren being the only steroid by the end of the cycle im actually pleased its over,and to be honest i dont think the  xtra gains you can obtain are worth the extra sides you have to tolerate.

heres a few quotes i keep in mind while on a tren cycle

tren has destroyed many solid relationships

you may love "the new you"on tren but your probably the only one

never make any life changing decisions  while on a tren cycle.

personally i dont beleive in "roid rage"and although tren does have an impact on agresion or as i like to put it "competitiveness"you do need to stay aware and show some restraint at times most tren sides are in your face and very obvious.however the mental sides you need to stay aware of the possible potential mental sides from this steroid.