Weight gain help

[BAE]

Im no medical expert but going off his leanness id say he isnt eating enough or that his body for some reason isnt utilising enough of the food that he does eat.

 

If it was my mate or something..normal non diabetic person..who was that lean complaining about not being able to gain weight its pretty obvious that they should eat more.

 

What type of insulin is he using (slow or fast acting or blend..might as well say product name) and what doses, and timing of doses?

[Daz69]

1 hour ago, BAE said:

Im no medical expert but going off his leanness id say he isnt eating enough or that his body for some reason isnt utilising enough of the food that he does eat.

 

If it was my mate or something..normal non diabetic person..who was that lean complaining about not being able to gain weight its pretty obvious that they should eat more.

 

What type of insulin is he using (slow or fast acting or blend..might as well say product name) and what doses, and timing of doses?

 

I believe he is eating 7-8 meals a day, but according to his specialist considerable blood glucose is being excreted via urination, maybe he is depleted of intra/extracellular water.. Maybe this could contribute to an inability to gain weight..

[GyzzBrah]

looking at the pictures of him he looks pretty big for his age so he must have been gaining weight very easily at some point. When did he stop gaining weight OP?

[Hannelie]

6 hours ago, GyzzBrah said:

looking at the pictures of him he looks pretty big for his age so he must have been gaining weight very easily at some point. When did he stop gaining weight OP?

He's been between 72 and 75kg for the past few years. 

[tyreguy]

Intriguing.. OP has he ever stopped working out for x amount of time?

then just eat the same or more and seen any changes?

[Hannelie]

1 hour ago, tyreguy said:

Intriguing.. OP has he ever stopped working out for x amount of time?

then just eat the same or more and seen any changes?

Lol...he doesnt want to stop. Gym junky lol. When he stopped competition bb years ago he lost heaps of weight and struggle ever since

[maccaz]

i would say daz is correct and you need to find a solution for this or raise it with a doctor.

[Wookie]

9500 calories in a bottle of olive oil.

 

Go to town.

[maccaz]

28 minutes ago, Wookie said:

9500 calories in a bottle of olive oil.

 

Go to town.

 

a few years back someone on here was promoting drinking olive oil to get extra calories in. i gave it a try a bit, the  smell of olive oil makes me feel uneasy to this day lol

[Daz69]

On ‎13‎/‎12‎/‎2015 at 11:24 AM, Hannelie said:

Yes... the diabetic specialist told him that his metabolism is extremely fast and everything he eats...instead of transforming into fat, he pees everything out.

 

I've been speaking with my tutor and he believes exogenous insulin is responsible for transporting too much glucose into the cell, as opposed to endogenous insulin via slower pulsatile release, hence fast metabolism, burning energy too quickly and for too long.. 

[maccaz]

Just now, Daz69 said:

 

I've been speaking with my tutor and he believes exogenous insulin is responsible for transporting too much glucose into the cell, as opposed to endogenous insulin via slower pulsatile release, hence fast metabolism, burning energy too quickly and for too long.. 

what is the fix?

 

[Daz69]

4 minutes ago, maccaz said:

what is the fix?

 

 

Don't be a type 1 diabetic..lol

 

Seriously, I wonder if reducing the number of reps, slower reps higher weights might see some improvement..

[maccaz]

Just now, Daz69 said:

 

Don't be a type 1 diabetic..lol

 

Seriously, I wonder if reducing the number of reps, slower reps higher weights might see some improvement..

ah ok, so there is no medical solution to this problem (if that is the problem) ? 

[GyzzBrah]

6 hours ago, Wookie said:

9500 calories in a bottle of olive oil.

 

Go to town.

 

And since olive oil isnt a sugar then will this be a foolproof workaround for him pissing out all his glucose? Or can his diabetes still affect fat digestion?

Daz?

[HumanPerformance]

Hanniele, can you list his exact training schedule at all? Am wondering if over training is a contributing factor. Especially since he's a "Gym junkie". Also is he in a stressful job?  Is he under stress in general? He sleeps well (8 hours or more)??

[GyzzBrah]

19 hours ago, maccaz said:

 

a few years back someone on here was promoting drinking olive oil to get extra calories in. i gave it a try a bit, the  smell of olive oil makes me feel uneasy to this day lol

 

What about cream?

[maccaz]

Just now, GyzzBrah said:

 

What about cream?

what about food, chicken, beef, etc.

 

[GyzzBrah]

Just now, maccaz said:

what about food, chicken, beef, etc.

 

Yeah all that stuff is good. I mean for whoever likes to drink olive oil, why not cream? Much nicer to have.

[maccaz]

28 minutes ago, GyzzBrah said:

Yeah all that stuff is good. I mean for whoever likes to drink olive oil, why not cream? Much nicer to have.

both are shit really. drinking olive oil or cream isnt going to make you strong

[Wookie]

10 minutes ago, maccaz said:

both are shit really. drinking olive oil or cream isnt going to make you strong

 

Failing to get a calorie surplus doesn't make you strong either. If you can get 50ml a day of olive oil into you, you're all of a sudden in a 500 cal surplus daily. When you're eating "so much food", that's an easy aid.

[Realtalk]

Key word here being "extra". The problem is people ingesting olive oil, cream and other calorie dense foods out of laziness. If you need 2500 calories a day and you are getting 1000 of those from cream and olive oil then you're doing it wrong. If you need 6500 calories and are getting 1000 of those from olive oil and cream then that's a different story. What's of benefit to one individual may not be of benefit to another.

[maccaz]

21 minutes ago, Realtalk said:

Key word here being "extra". The problem is people ingesting olive oil, cream and other calorie dense foods out of laziness. If you need 2500 calories a day and you are getting 1000 of those from cream and olive oil then you're doing it wrong. If you need 6500 calories and are getting 1000 of those from olive oil and cream then that's a different story. What's of benefit to one individual may not be of benefit to another.

Yeah thats what i meant, just put it a bit blunt because the person i was responding to is likely to go and drink it as his main calorie source 

[nelly bunton]

On 13/12/2015 at 10:35 PM, Hannelie said:

Type 1 on insulin. After 2 hours of gym...

This also could be as simple as someone with a fast metabolism compounding the problem by training for this long.. why not shorten the sessions for a few weeks, cut some volume and see where that leaves him? 

I'm also type 1 diabetic so if there is anything else at play it'd be interesting to know!

[gazza]

If you're struggling for a few extra calories and are like a number of people that get that "2am call of nature" you could try prepping a protein shake before you go to bed. Then if/when the urge grabs you in the night chug it down while the other end drains. 

I know of people that have done this for a couple of weeks straight and found it helped, one guy even went as far as setting his alarm just to get up and down a shake. 

Probably wouldn't deliberately go disrupting sleep, but if you're getting up any way it surely couldn't hurt. 

[Pseudonym]

^ I used to do this, and have the glass right beside the bed waiting for me. God, that takes me back.

 

I think I must have made it with milk, because I remember it was okay as long as I drank it in the middle of the night, but by morning it always had a definite tang to it (don't ask me why I didn't put it in the fridge...)