Ice_Man Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Hey Team, wanted to know if any one has tried any of the EAS supplements, particular the muscle building ones. I get a pretty big discount with them which is hard to turn down. Im currently on the Eas whey protein and Thermo DynamX fat burning pills from them and soon to be nitron 5, right after I finish my Metaphysics Rampage (Recommend). If any one has tried the Muscle Armour, Nitron 5, Phosphagen Elite, or any other EAS product then I would love to know what you thought of it. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Man Posted June 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 As for the 100% whey Protein and Thermo DynamX.EAS 100% Whey proteinAll the normal Nutrients that go into any whey proteinAmount per serving: 30gProtein- 23Calories- 120Fat- 2Carbohydrates- 2Cost at store about $90-100 for 5 lbs (Allot cheaper for me)Servings per Container- 75Taste- The best I have had, due to naturally and artificially flavoursPersonally I believe it is the best protein I have taken due to its taste, ez of mixing, and results. For the shop value price I would give it a 3.5/5, but for myself 5/5 due to what I get it for.EAS Thermo DynamXThis is a Thermogenic Fat Burning product.Got so many names confusing ingredients that im not worrying about typing them all out how ever it does contain allot of caffeine 200mg per serving.Price- $100 at storesSize- 120 capsulesServing Size- 2-3 capsules twice a dayImportant notes are :Do not exceed 5 days per weekConsume on an empty stomachI have had previously taken Dymetadrine Xtreme fat burning pills a year ago and have to say the EAS product is way above it. However it has 4x the caffeine levels as the Dymetadrine.4/5 great for shredding the fat off you and keeping you buzzing all day long, just make sure you do not take it to late in the afternoon other wise you will never get to sleep :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZPT Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 i really rate the phosphogen elite creatine from EAS! definatly gave me the best creatine fueled workouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Zero Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 How cheap do you get this stuff and how do you get the discount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Man Posted June 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 How cheap do you get this stuff and how do you get the discount?I recieve them from 40-50% off all EAS products. Its a specail army discount. :gunfire: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbelldog Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 40-50%..............F....k :shock: I rate the phos elite also, use that and the protein the rest is overated IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 I recieve them from 40-50% off all EAS products. Its a specail army discount.u could make some extra cash if u wanted!ive used nitron 5 works good! gives good pump if u take bit extra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Zero Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 Yeah was gunna say! Make some extra cash, man. Hook us up. :pfft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 I recieve them from 40-50% off all EAS products. Its a specail army discount. :gunfire:Where do I sign up?! :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Man Posted June 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 I would, only I don’t want to compromise the deal the army has with them, being that we can not give any one any information about this. For all I know there might be a user on this site that is from EAS.But looking at the order form I can tell you I think they class us as almost a shop, buying every thing at the whole sale price.Sorry about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Man Posted June 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 ive used nitron 5 works good! gives good pump if u take bit extraDid you take that stuff with creatine as well? I not sure about the Nitric Oxide products. And can you remember if you took it twice a day as directed or just 30min before work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 How cheap do you get this stuff and how do you get the discount?I recieve them from 40-50% off all EAS products. Its a specail army discount. :gunfire:So how much of a mark up are we being charged ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Man Posted June 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 deegee So how much of a mark up are we being charged ?Well I think the middle men are getting a lot out of it. Even looking at the internet NZ supplement website it's still at a ridicules amount. I guess that’s why its a billion dollar industry, people will pay allotted for them.I think bodybuilding.com is the way to go for the cheapest stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 deegee So how much of a mark up are we being charged ?Well I think the middle men are getting a lot out of it. Even looking at the internet NZ supplement website it's still at a ridicules amount. I guess that’s why its a billion dollar industry, people will pay allotted for them.I think bodybuilding.com is the way to go for the cheapest stuff.If anyone thinks 30 odd bucks gross profit off a tub of protein is good I'd like to see you go into business and make a decent living out of it. Believe me the margins aren't that good once you have to pay the bare essentials like Tax, GST, ACC, wages, rent, power, phone/internet, freight, accountants, credit card merchant fees, eftpos fees, insurance, alarm monitoring, and then a whole host of other costs.You'd be fooling yourself if you think you're going to get rich selling protein in New Zealand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 deegee So how much of a mark up are we being charged ?Well I think the middle men are getting a lot out of it. Even looking at the internet NZ supplement website it's still at a ridicules amount. I guess that’s why its a billion dollar industry, people will pay allotted for them.I think bodybuilding.com is the way to go for the cheapest stuff.If anyone thinks 30 odd bucks gross profit off a tub of protein is good I'd like to see you go into business and make a decent living out of it. Believe me the margins aren't that good once you have to pay the bare essentials like Tax, GST, ACC, wages, rent, power, phone/internet, freight, accountants, credit card merchant fees, eftpos fees, insurance, alarm monitoring, and then a whole host of other costs.You'd be fooling yourself if you think you're going to get rich selling protein in New Zealand.Im in buisness myself and shit like this that f***s it for buisness owners .People never take into consideration overheads they think we buy product for bugger all put 400 percent on it and all drive around in lamborginis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 deegee So how much of a mark up are we being charged ?Well I think the middle men are getting a lot out of it. Even looking at the internet NZ supplement website it's still at a ridicules amount. I guess that’s why its a billion dollar industry, people will pay allotted for them.I think bodybuilding.com is the way to go for the cheapest stuff.I saw one of these middlemen before. He walked around in gold-plated shoes, laughing to himself until his stomach was sore about how much money he just made of the last sucker that bought a five pound tub of whey from him. Man that $15 is going to go a long way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheeman Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 One way that you all may get a discount is by buying in bulk for a club/organization. For example, you can start your own organization like this website. If there is a group of you who are willing to buy at regular intervals in bulk, you might get a good discount. Its a practice quite common in Europe and the USA. The bigger the amount your organization is willing to buy, the bigger the discount you can ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 One way that you all may get a discount is by buying in bulk for a club/organization. For example, you can start your own organization like this website. If there is a group of you who are willing to buy at regular intervals in bulk, you might get a good discount. Its a practice quite common in Europe and the USA. The bigger the amount your organization is willing to buy, the bigger the discount you can ask for.What kind of discount you are able to get is dependant on the mark up though. no one is going to take a loss. I dont think protein is a big margin product here in Z certainly not for quality stuff anyway. I have been told that fat burners and associated products are given a good margin. I guess this would be true for some stores and not others.At the end of the day with so many things, you get what you pay for.Cheap stuff today is discovered to be underdosed etc tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Man Posted June 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Im in buisness myself and shit like this that f***s it for buisness owners .People never take into consideration overheads they think we buy product for bugger all put 400 percent on it and all drive around in lamborginisI understand what you are saying, as I use to work in the business industry myself and I know that there are allsorts of extra costs that go into selling product and keeping you're store alive, especially if you are a very small shop. And as 'bheeman' man said buying bulk you do get more of a discount and that’s where the small shops miss out. Don't think for second that I am saying stay away from the shops, I am always going to be buying something from them for the reason that you can trust the products they sell, the staff know there stuff and it can some times be a dam lot easier then searching all over the internet just to save a few $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheeman Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 A lot of truth in what all of you are saying. I own a few B&M stores and had also owned a gym in the past. A B&M can never compete with an online-only retailer. They have very little overhead. As mentioned before, a B&M will have major overheads. An online trader can make a higher profit with less expenses, while a B&M can make a lower profit with more expenses. The best way I compete with the online-only retailer is by having a great customer service and providing the 'human' element that comes with having a B&M. Also as a previous gym owner, my gym used to supply branded and generic supplements, gym attires, etc. I used to get a bigger discount if I bought in bulk and sell it to my members in the gym. Selling supplements in the gym was a service I provided to my members. I didn't make any profit out of it. My members and friends always complained of the high price of supplements in the stores. Many of them were everyday folks who had very little extra disposable income. Thus it made me happy that I was able to help my members in this way.I learned a lot from mistakes. But what I learned, I apply. B&Ms provide a wonderful service that customers appreciate. I believe that a B&M with bad customer service shouldn't be around. I know ( I also make sure my staff knows as well) many of my customers by face and provide that personal touch to our service. After all, it is my customers who provide me with a living and I will do my best in making sure they good a experience in coming to my B&Ms..even though the price is higher than a e-tailer. By the way..B&M means Brick and Mortar. It is a physical place. I kept using the term without really explaining what it was! I apologize for not clarifying that in the begining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Man Posted June 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 That was very well put there 'bheeman', couldn't of said it beta myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Did you take that stuff with creatine as well? I not sure about the Nitric Oxide products. And can you remember if you took it twice a day as directed or just 30min before work out.didnt use creatine with it.yes my serving (think its 2 caps?) twice a day so 2 caps in morning and another 2 caps bout 20mins b4 training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 sorry 2 go back - Staff, wages, holiday pay, rent increases, raw material price increases (top quality instantised whey protein concentrate - Alacen 450 - up 60% in cost from Fonterra in last 2 years alone!) all make running a business difficult, top that off with a 35% increase in petroleum manufacturing costs (packaging such as containers, labels and freight etc) and then have the consumer hit by rising petrol prices, interest rates reducing discretionary income and the like and only the well established or diversified business operators will survive that have adequate profit margins. I think a lot of consumers would be suprised how little is left in actual profit after all the costs are taken into consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogie2001 Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 ahh man that sucks! when i was in the RNZE we didn't even get told about supplements, wish i had as I might have actually gained and kept some size from my years there, instead i wasted away to a 75kg wiry bastard. honestly the only thing i have used is the myoplex meal replacement and the thermo's. Thermos did nothing much, but the myoplex I found was a good weight gainer meal replacement. i my mind creatine is the same everywhere as long as it's made by a quality lab, the lab symbol on it says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gym rat Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 I have used EAS 100% whey proetin. I thought it was not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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