diet for overweight female

[2guns]

she has managed to sneak food (wendy's and burger fuel etc) into her diet. she had a blow out last sat after her awesome losses, with alcohol, and cheesy lasagne. Not only that but she has been only doing the pm workouts and nothing in the am.

omg! waste of time!

people have to want to help themselves beofore they can expect help from others

some people want it all done for them... crazy :roll:

[Evie]

Save yourself some trouble - and adjust her diet and training to resemble Body For Life. Judging from what I've read you may have got her to go to hard to fast.

Starting a person new to training and diet on an AM & PM program seems full on. I hope you aren't getting a newbie to do AM Cardio and PM lifting? That would be far too off putting - which it seems it is if she's not doing the AM at all. Maybe I read it wrong or something...

What about 3 times cardio and 3 time lifting ie:

Mon: Chest & Back

Tue: Cardio 30-45 mins - Calf & Ab's

Wednesday: Legs

Thursday: Cardio 30-45 mins - Calf & Ab's

Friday: Shoulders / Arms

Saturday: Cardio 30-60 mins

Sunday: OFF

Or if she doesn't want to go every week day how about combining weights with training?

Mon: Chest & Back end with Cardio 30

Tue: OFF

Wednesday: Legs - Calf & Ab's

Thursday: OFF

Friday: Shoulders / Arms end with Cardio 30

Saturday: Cardio 30-60 mins & Ab's

Sunday: OFF

Diet could be made easier, with rules and guidlines not strict BB meals:

ie 6 small meals, First 5 meals Carb/Prot/Fat, last meal Prot only, and let her have a 'Cheat Day' if that's what she wants or 2-3 'Cheat Meals' but give a calorie / fat / carb limit for the day - so it could be anything she wants be it burgers, coke, chips, sugar etc ... but once she hits say 3,000 cal that's it! She may be able to find out for herself that if she chooses healthier Cheats she can have more food (like swaping Choc bars for Pro Bars, Coke of Diet coke etc).

Plus winter is a hard time to diet: Comfort food, snacking and lack of motivation to cook time consuming meals.

Low fat soups (can or pack) are good: Add chopped up chicken, tuna, egg whites, salmon (tinned or smoked), then load it with veg... plus in place of crutons or toast rice wafers can be used. It'll seem like a really big meal!

Plus what is her inspration for all of this, is there a specific goal?

Hope you don't think I'm sticking my nose in, and at first I thought oh well just give up on her, but it may take a while to break her habits (Alcohol is a biggie), but small changes that stick with start to work and then the motivation of seeing changes will encourage her to change more ...

It is afterall up too the individual and how bad they want to fit a certain size, weigh a certain number, look a certain way or even compete. Nobody forces you to stay in bed instead of train, no-one forces you to eat that burger or second helping.

These things take time, good for you to even try, I've had a few people ask for my help and not come good ... or even try, it's disheartning and time wasting.

[Evie]

Woosers that was a big post :shock:

I, in no way am qualified, it's just my opinion.

[ED_AISH]

I know this is the Ladies room but if you dont mind...

I have recently lost a lot of weight and the big thing was finding the mental motivation, for me it was seeing a photo of my self in my togs and thinking man is that really me! I used that feeling as my catalist to make a change, now 10 months 30 odd KGs and one body building comp later I sure am glad I did. the other thing that kept me on track was having one day off a week that I would still have 6 meals but change lunch out for a burger fuel burger or something like that and add maybe some cheesecake but ONLY on my one day otherwise strict as.

[frogie2001]

hey thanks guys for all the wisdom, yeah I have told her how i felt about her needing the motivation and discipline for this to be a success. I guess she hasn't reached that point where it dosen't matter what it takes she will do it. So with that in mind and what I have just read, I have changed the following.

she is now doing cardio and weights combined. 5 days a week. and cardio on any other day. one day off from exercise a week. her diet is set out like guidelines, where I have quantified the calories and put it in columns for her, so she can choose any one item form each column for her meal. e.g 1 pro, 1 vege, 1 carb etc.

I've told her not to beat her self up as that is just setting herself up for an even larger failure. So hopefully with another week of exercise and a slight change in diet, even though the loss won't be anywhere near the targets her and I set, hopefully she will lose. as I said before i'm more trying to get the lifestyle change going so it's a permanent thing, as opposed to the quick fix and bounce back.

[deegee]

Any update on this one frogie ?

[frogie2001]

she has now moved to England, and livin in Birmingham, from what she has saidn, she is surrounded by very beautiful (skinny) girls in the CBD. She has told me that she is going to join a gym over there, increase her walking, etc.

I have been trying to get it through again that diet is what is going to make the changes she wants possible. I don't know what the gyms are like over there but at 40 lbs (NZ$120) a month, she could get lipo :grin: so I have sent her the diet again and every now and than we skype and have a catch up. We'll see how it goes after a wee while