Gyno from Anavar?

[thatwaslight]

I'm running 250 test and 120mg var ED and for the first time other than running tren I've got gyno?

It was my understanding that Anavar did not aromatise? It's only in one side but is really hard and sore, much harder and more tender than when I've had gyno from tren. The obvious answer is take less but I'd rather not do that lol. Have ran 60mg in the past with not a whisper so I'ts a bit weird. Light dose of anti e?

cheers

[yeelang]

Can't get gyno from DHT drugs, 

Looks like you are crusing, what were you on before that might of spilled over?

[kiwicannon]

Letro

[Daz69]

I'm running 250 test and 120mg var ED and for the first time other than running tren I've got gyno?

It was my understanding that Anavar did not aromatise? It's only in one side but is really hard and sore, much harder and more tender than when I've had gyno from tren. The obvious answer is take less but I'd rather not do that lol. Have ran 60mg in the past with not a whisper so I'ts a bit weird. Light dose of anti e?

cheers

 

Gyno? I don't believe there is such a thing as Tren gyno, if your Tren was 100% Tren..!!

How confident are you that your Anavar is legit..??

Both progesterone and estrogen inhibit prolactin action, but elevate or maintain prolactin levels. Prolactin becomes active when there is a sharp drop in estrogen and progesterone, such as when you go from a high estro cycle to a cutting cycle including the notably anti-progestagenic trenbolone, explaining why tren can cause temporary lactation in very rare case where these factors coincide, without actually affecting tissue growth.

With AAS in the system you shouldn't be producing any progesterone ...
On top of that, high progesterone would block lactation from prolactin.

I honestly think if you know what you are doing, don't unnecessarily use or abuse anti-e's etc, then Gyno is a very rare occurence. I know very few people who have actually had gyno. Cases on the internet are quite abundant, but in almost all cases there is mention of stupidity like long standing preventive use of anti-e's when there was previously never a problem. 

There is some degree of interindividual variance in terms of sensitivity, and of course if you are fat etc, you are at more risk, but not to the point where you should ever consider gyno more than a rare side-effect if you know what you are doing.

Did you ever get prolactin checked ? If you have a prolactinoma, low dose caber every couple of days may not be to much avail. Tren will block PR, if your estro was extremely low, two major culprits in activating an abundance of prolactin, causing lactation. Prolactin being in high normal to high range would be a prerequisite, which, can only be the case if you suffer prolactinoma. Worth checking out.

The principal treatment for gyno is Nolvadex... Not Letrozole..

[thatwaslight]

Daz, tren/deca has always given me severe gyno and yes there is no doubt they were both legit.

I haven't ran over 500mg test in a few years now so it's a bit strange, and anyway even at 3+ grams of test a week I never had gyno once. The var I'm using is the same var I've used many times In the past so it's just weird I'm getting it now. I have radically changed my diet tho coud that have influenced things? Eating lots of fruit and veges religiously. 

Also I'm terrible with my frequency of injections; I'll always miss a week here and there prob doesn't help?

[Daz69]

Daz, tren/deca has always given me severe gyno and yes there is no doubt they were both legit.

I haven't ran over 500mg test in a few years now so it's a bit strange, and anyway even at 3+ grams of test a week I never had gyno once. The var I'm using is the same var I've used many times In the past so it's just weird I'm getting it now. I have radically changed my diet tho coud that have influenced things? Eating lots of fruit and veges religiously. 

Also I'm terrible with my frequency of injections; I'll always miss a week here and there prob doesn't help?

 

Peter Van Mol is a research biochemist whom has worked and published extensively on gyno, this is his thinking regarding frequently discussed issues pertaining to gyno:

In the end you never dismiss singular accounts, and even bro-science. It originates from somewhere. But the whole tren gyno thing is quite ridiculous in how it's played out. I've worked with literally hundreds of people on tren, first hand, and never once seen tren gyno (to be honest, I've not see many cases of gyno period, that were actual gyno, if you know what you are doing), and when I see someone like Bill Roberts, whose worked with at least as many and probably more given he has been in the business longer, say the same thing, along with the science to back it up, it's easy to say it doesn't exist.

But anecdotal reports remain. On the one had such reports are notoriously biased because they'll usually be from people who believed in, and were scared of, the existence of tren gyno prior to using it, and as with most people who have an irrational fear of more harmless side-effects, likely taking a lot of other things that factor in as well, and confound matters further.

So I think more than just establishing the facts about gyno, I can really only urge people to never take drugs they have no reason to take. Especially anti-e's and dopamine agonists, and learn what the thing you fear is. gyno is NOT normally accompanied by itching or pain. Itchy or painful nipples are NOT gyno, nor symptoms thereof. If more people could keep their use of compounds simple, learn to properly diagnose problems, not panick, and then start treatment (only if necessary) from the ground up, I think a lot of people will find that gyno is an extremely rare occurence with the levels of androgens we use. 

But I've long suspected that extensive previous (possibly preventive) use of anti-aromatase drugs somehow increases your chances of developing problems after cessation.

[donz]

Daz, tren/deca has always given me severe gyno and yes there is no doubt they were both legit.

I haven't ran over 500mg test in a few years now so it's a bit strange, and anyway even at 3+ grams of test a week I never had gyno once. The var I'm using is the same var I've used many times In the past so it's just weird I'm getting it now. I have radically changed my diet tho coud that have influenced things? Eating lots of fruit and veges religiously. 

Also I'm terrible with my frequency of injections; I'll always miss a week here and there prob doesn't help?

Not sure I'm understanding you.. "has always given me gyno" you make it sound like your gyno comes and goes? I was under the impression once the scar tissue has formed properly you're stuck with it until you have it cut out. I understand that if you're starting to feel the onset of it you can use letro etc to get rid of it, possibly.

Sorry if that seems dumb, just confused me a bit.

[kiwicannon]

NOt dumb at all bro, thats what i thought too.*scratch_one-s_head*

 

[AZIDE]

nah ive had same experience with tren as TWL. as soon as i stop tren it goes away, even on 1200mg test plus superdrol and anavar the lumps i had from using tren dissapeared. have progress pics that show this pretty clearly. lumps have been 'supermarket grape sized' on tren then have returned to 'pea sized or less'. no letro, just dropping tren and continuing to use aromasin.

dunno if scar tissue formed for me but size of lumps definatly increases hugely on tren then decreases when i stop using it. every fucking time

[Leeroid]

Was using deca test eq then started getting lumps when I swtiched to test and tren (lower total dosage). Kept using tren but just increased aromasin dosage and lumps shrank again.

[donz]

Man that's some weirddddd shiz

[crazyfacials]

can we atleast have a pic of it OP?

 

 

[thatwaslight]

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