Test/Anavar/Slin. long time listener, first time caller.

[kiwicannon]

Oh fark jus noticed yeah old as thread shiet!

[Riccardo]

OP is died RIP

[HarryB]

Must have been the insulin that killed him

[donz]

I thought the min sorta dose for a guy running var was round 100 a day to see any sort of benefits?

[HarryB]

I seem to get a decent response from 20 ms a day of anavar

[donz]

Really? Damn I'm just basing it off reading shit as it's pretty fkn expensive here unless you're a female running 10 a day for a show - i assumed that 100 was needed and was like "f*ck that f*ck this i aint paying that for 10 days worth" ahah might give it a jam this summer

[HarryB]

Most guys just take too much cos they think they have to. 20mg is fine for me if running with injectables. Note that the females I know who use it get good results using as little as 5mg/day. I also know tiny little guys who use 60 to 100mg a day and somehow manage to stay tiny. I guess it's down to the individual.

[Hardballs]

Anavar? Really? Keen

[woody]

some might disagree completely but imo putting your self into hypoglycemia in a controled enviroment,ie with company and glucose or the like on hand,just so you can reconize when your entering hypo glycemia in the future is worth considering if your thinking of using insulin.getting your self a blood glucose monitor is also helpfull.

[Daz69]

2 hours ago, woody said:

some might disagree completely but imo putting your self into hypoglycemia in a controled enviroment,ie with company and glucose or the like on hand,just so you can reconize when your entering hypo glycemia in the future is worth considering if your thinking of using insulin.getting your self a blood glucose monitor is also helpfull.

 

Be careful.. Glucose won't help if you lose consciousness, unless its IV, or have IM glucagon on hand.. As well as someone to recognise and administer...

[woody]

by company i meant someone suitably qualified,for me signs of hypoglycemia became quite reconizable early onshaking ,sweats anxiety,a definate adrenilin burst around 4.0mg/litre blood,well before any chance of unconciousness.on the topic what are your thoughts on b/b deliberately dropping their blood glucose levels to critical levels in hope of the gh released at these levels.is it even viable!.

[Daz69]

On 27/03/2016 at 9:03 AM, woody said:

by company i meant someone suitably qualified,for me signs of hypoglycemia became quite reconizable early onshaking ,sweats anxiety,a definate adrenaline burst around 4.0mg/litre blood,well before any chance of unconciousness.on the topic what are your thoughts on b/b deliberately dropping their blood glucose levels to critical levels in hope of the gh released at these levels.is it even viable!.

 

I'm not aware of adrenaline release associated with hypoglycaemia..!!

[EDIT-I'm a retard]

 

The body's initial response to low blood glucose is an increase in hormones that promote higher blood glucose levels such as glucagon, cortisol, growth hormone and adrenaline..

Adrenaline release is part of the sympathetic response via the adrenal gland...

 

[maccaz]

4 hours ago, Daz69 said:

 

I'm not aware of adrenaline release associated with hypoglycaemia..!!

lol prob a fair bit of adrenaline is released when you mentally acknowledge that in a short time you will die if you don't do something.

[nate225]

5 hours ago, Daz69 said:

 

I'm not aware of adrenaline release associated with hypoglycaemia..!!

Save the epipen for legs day.....that adrenaline gets the respiratory rate up something wicked tho! At least that's what my mate Dave told me.

[Daz69]

10 hours ago, nate225 said:

Save the epipen for legs day.....that adrenaline gets the respiratory rate up something wicked tho! At least that's what my mate Dave told me.

 

Sorry Nate.. There is a initial release of adrenaline via the sympathetic nervous system..  My bad..!!

 

[woody]

On 3/28/2016 at 10:08 PM, nate225 said:

Save the epipen for legs day.....that adrenaline gets the respiratory rate up something wicked tho! At least that's what my mate Dave told me.

are some really doing this(using an epipen to assist training)????

[woody]

On 3/28/2016 at 9:14 AM, Daz69 said:

 

Sorry Nate.. There is a initial release of adrenaline via the sympathetic nervous system..  My bad..!!

 

my thinking is the release of adrenilines main purpose is to counteract the drowsiness brought on by the lowblood glucose,enableing the individual to react to the possibly critical position hes in,that coupled with the intense hunger,that i can only describe as ravanish,goes towards ensuring action is taken to rectify the situation.of course some people dont react in the same way,some take on an agressive,drunken like state,and are incapable to take the apropiate steps in which case an epipen is the only answer,however this is usually only the case when the first response carnt be met such as when food isnt readly available.

[Daz69]

6 minutes ago, woody said:

my thinking is the release of adrenilines main purpose is to counteract the drowsiness brought on by the lowblood glucose,enableing the individual to react to the possibly critical position hes in,that coupled with the intense hunger,that i can only describe as ravanish,goes towards ensuring action is taken to rectify the situation.of course some people dont react in the same way,some take on an agressive,drunken like state,and are incapable to take the apropiate steps in which case an epipen is the only answer,however this is usually only the case when the first response carnt be met such as when food isnt readly available.

 

Endogenous adrenaline release is part of the body's sympathetic response to low blood glucose levels especially in the brain.... It's trying to increase blood supply and with it blood-glucose levels, but it doesn't work because the blood glucose levels are critically low.... 

 

Oral glucose is the correct treatment for a conscious patient....

 

But if unconscious or unable to consume oral glucose then an injection of IM glucagon is needed NOT adrenaline by means of epipen..!!

 

Epipen is for severe systemic anaphylactic reaction..!!

 

If the patient is low on liver glycogen IM glucagon won't work, IV glucose is then needed...

 

[woody]

wasnt meaning an injection of adrenaline,rather epipen of im glucagon,which for joe public is the next step if a patient refuses oral glucose.good luck trying to administer intravenous glucose to an unco-operative hypoglycemic individual.

[woody]

9 minutes ago, Daz69 said:

 

 

 

On 3/28/2016 at 9:17 PM, maccaz said:

lol prob a fair bit of adrenaline is released when you mentally acknowledge that in a short time you will die if you don't do something.

actual dying from hypoglycemia is extremely un common,and wont occur in a "short while"....brain damage ,thats a different story.

[Daz69]

9 minutes ago, woody said:

wasnt meaning an injection of adrenaline,rather epipen of im glucagon,which for joe public is the next step if a patient refuses oral glucose.good luck trying to administer intravenous glucose to an unco-operative hypoglycemic individual.

 

Epi-pen = Epinephrine = USA name for Adrenaline..!!

 

If a patient is hypo and uncooperative, they won't last that way for long, they will eventually go unconscious, then IV is an option... Otherwise we call Police for restraint then give IV..

[woody]

my mistake,sorry....the im pen is often but wrongly referred to by many as an epipen...and agree in the right situation an im glugagon dose can be administered to an irate patient ,often even un noticed.i guess every situation would need to be accessed ,but back to the subject....gh release being benificial if induced by hypoglycemia,,,i mean gh for no financial cost on tap.there must be a serious floor in the whole idea,makes me wonder though why then are so many still doing this.

[Daz69]

2 hours ago, woody said:

my mistake,sorry....the im pen is often but wrongly referred to by many as an epipen...and agree in the right situation an im glugagon dose can be administered to an irate patient ,often even un noticed.i guess every situation would need to be accessed ,but back to the subject....gh release being benificial if induced by hypoglycemia,,,i mean gh for no financial cost on tap.there must be a serious floor in the whole idea,makes me wonder though why then are so many still doing this.

 

In hypoglycemia, blood glucose is dangerously low, if blood glucose is low there will be no insulin release.. Insulin is responsible for many things, such as protein synthesis by increasing amino acid transport into cells and ribosomal protein translocation via mRNA...

 

Low blood sugar = No insulin = No proteins synthesis..

 

Can't have everything...

[nate225]

Re epipen  (adrenaline). 

Lots of comments from PL's quite some time ago about seeing guys using these at the world's (IPF,  tho this practice definitely banned). 

Have seen a guy locally try it, amusing but not something I'd recommend on the regular lol

[Daz69]

58 minutes ago, nate225 said:

Re epipen  (adrenaline). 

Lots of comments from PL's quite some time ago about seeing guys using these at the world's (IPF,  tho this practice definitely banned). 

Have seen a guy locally try it, amusing but not something I'd recommend on the regular lol

 

Makes you feel like shite apparently...