wanting to do bodybuilding

[whola89]

Hi,

So i live in Upper Hutt but i go to Hutt City Les Mills gym like maybe twice a week when i have time. I am wanting to seek a challenge and i had looked up bodybuilding and was interested straight away. I am looking for a PT that can get me in bodybuilding shape.

Does anyone have any recommendments?

any advice would be much appreciated

Thanks

[god-of-bodybuilding]

if you want to do BODYBUILDING then first you need to train more than twice a week

eat a high protein, mod carb, low fat diet everyday

and u need to be willing to use bodybuilding drugs for as long as you want to do the sport

[Pseudonym]

Welcome Whola89.

G.O.B. is right with his first two points (training "twice a week when you have time" probably isn't going to be enough). But as for the drugs, that's totally dependant on how far you want to take your bodybuilding. And you certainly don't need to think about them at this stage of things.

As for a Hutt City PT, hopefully some of our local members can offer suggestions. Good luck.

[jimmybro1]

god-of-bodybuilding wrote:

if you want to do BODYBUILDING then first you need to train more than twice a week

eat a high protein, mod carb, low fat diet everyday

and u need to be willing to use bodybuilding drugs for as long as you want to do the sport

[god-of-bodybuilding]

lol cmon man dont spread that false information around...

 

high protein (200-500g daily) wont damage normal healthy kidneys. 

you'll only run into problems if consuming too much protein in one sitting, like drinking 200g whey protein in 5 mins then that will put stress on kidneys and they will start to ache and feel painful. each serving 50-75g protein is ok!

[jimmybro1]

god-of-bodybuilding wrote:

lol cmon man dont spread that false information around...

 

high protein (200-500g daily) wont damage normal healthy kidneys. 

you'll only run into problems if consuming too much protein in one sitting, like drinking 200g whey protein in 5 mins then that will put stress on kidneys and they will start to ache and feel painful. each serving 50-75g protein is ok!

[Leeroid]

I don't really believe that Kai would be eating less than 300g protein. Maybe he is but I find it hard to believe. In any case, protein is utilized to a far greater extent when using steroids but I agree with jimmy in saying that 300g would be the upper limit for a natural bodybuilder.

To the OP, a PT is not really necessary. There's plenty of information on the internet but it sounds to me like you just want to do a comp as a one off challenge. Bodybuilding is really a lifestyle and you have to be dedicated to it 24/7 and you will definitely have to train more than twice a week. You need to think about why you want to compete and whether you're willing to sacrifice a part of your life for it.

[Dinahlady]

Firstly - there are some BBing trainers in the hutt...  but i wouldn't necessarily recommend them... I'm personally warey of people who really buy into the fitness industry garbage and have the old school "no pain no gain" "go hard" mentality which I think is unrealistic for most and will chew up and spit out most unless you are extremely genetically gifted or know and trust your body more than you trust them... 

Basic PT qualifications are pretty naff, and consequently a lot of PTs have a very small amount of real knowledge about how the body works compared to other health professionals such as doctors or physiotherapists that you put similar amounts of time and money into. Yet PTs can prescribe you whatever type of exercise and diet they like and it can be based on no more than preference. So really do your research on - imo "they have done bodybuilding before" or "they look really good" or just les mills desciples telling you "omg they are totally the best trainer" isn't a reason to trust someone to mess with your body. 

Ultimately It's your health and you body you are paying someone to manipulate and it is your responsibility to know if what you are following and the ideas they are putting to you isn't causing you harm - because there are no regulations at all in place to stop that from happening.

Not saying there aren't ANY good PTs out there - its just very hard to know without knowing something yourself first.... 

Enough of the cynisism 

 

Imo I'd look for an online training program that's free that you can follow first and I definitely think before you hire a trainer you should do your own research into bodybuilding and the main ideas out there for you to try.

An example of a program is Jamie easons live fit trainer- im sorry it looks really girly but there is a male version of the program and it is a pretty good program... (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/jamie-eason-livefit-trainer.html) its free and is a really good starting point for a periodised training and nutrition plan that has complete instruction for exercises and is a great introduction to bodybuilding style training. Whilst following something like this you can take it at your own pace food and training wise and listen and learn to be responsive to your body ... and mix it with some other of your own research, http://www.t-nation.com is also a good place to look for articles and information about bodybuilding training - as well as this forum  

Gaining your own knowledge and your own sense of your body is much more healthy and productive way to appraoch bodybuilding and you will get much more out of it for your training and for life skills than just sponging off a trainer. 

If anyone else knows any other training programs then pls recommend - I dont really know many complete training and nutrition programs. 

 

On the Protein stuff: 

I agree with Jimmybro here but slightly differently. 

Yes high protein wont damage the healthy average kidney.

Different people have different tolerance of protein amounts before it causes issues in the long term - there are studies/information that show the individual differences out there. 

But how many people have actually checked their kidney capabilities? 

Mild to moderate kidney issues are reletively symptomless. 

if you prescribe high protein at 250g+ to every 70kg guy you meet and advocate it endlessy then at some point you are going to be prescribing that to someone with sub-average kidney function or capability to deal with that high protein. 

it's not just about damaging kidney its about functioning optimally and healthily and I also believe that much over 200g protein for natty people is unneccessary for muscle growth and you're pretty much wasting calories that could be much better spent on carbs or fats as your muscle/brain actually use these as fuel for workouts and most other processes in your body that are also essential for health. 

Put it this way... your "WHOLE BODY" only turns over about 130p per day and 70g of which is completely recycled and reabsorbed therefore unneeded in dietry requirements... that is all the processes and proteins and cells being replaced in your body. The amount of muscle you can actually naturally gain doesnt warrent another 250g of protein (twice your whole bodies turnover) on top of that... 

A real life example is Mcmass is 5ft7 95kg natty and he eats around 200p and can gain muscle fine (very well infact ). 

At the end of the day i'd feel pretty shit if I prescribed high protein to even one person with duff kidneys and then fucked them up, especaily if it was unneccesary amount of protein.... but each to their own...