BR 2/4 cycle.

[Murhf]

Can someone please tell me what this cycle is about?

" The closest to avoiding total suppression is BR 2/4 cycle.. and this is often never attempted/done correctly as it uses alot of drugs and is difficult. ie. short acting drugs with high doses (IIRC HCG) for the two weeks and clomid and anavar for the 4 off IIRC".

Read this somewhere, was regarding a 2 week pct cycle.

[kiwicannon]

^ Sounds interesting Murhf,

[god-of-bodybuilding]

useless mumbo jumbo

 

forget you ever heard of it

[kiwicannon]

god-of-bodybuilding wrote:

useless mumbo jumbo

 

forget you ever heard of it

[Pseudonym]

I'd like to see more from both sides on this. More about what a "BR 2/4 cycle" actually is and why it might work. And more from G.O.B. about why he thinks it doesn't.

[god-of-bodybuilding]

it is a waste of time cycling steroids like this because you grow muscle best with consistancy, not blasting it for 2 weeks then off for 4. how much muscle will you gain in 2 weeks? lol. not much

it is better to stay consistant doing either 8 week long cycles then 4 weeks off & repeat. or 16 week cycles with sufficient time off & repeat

 

[Daz69]

god-of-bodybuilding wrote:

it is a waste of time cycling steroids like this because you grow muscle best with consistancy, not blasting it for 2 weeks then off for 4. how much muscle will you gain in 2 weeks? lol. not much

it is better to stay consistant doing either 8 week long cycles then 4 weeks off & repeat. or 16 week cycles with sufficient time off & repeat

 

[Terrymundo]

HPTA shutdown must really have some people shitting themselves*wacko*

 

I like the theory of BR2/4 but I think itsNOT worth the hassle. If you can effectively bring your HPTA back after a traditional cycle or even a few cruises and blasts, why would you need to run BR2/4??? You can't argue you can achieve the same result off of 4weeks of short esters then a PCT. You need to run a longer cycle to "cement" the gains. If the keyboard wizards can find a way to keep the natural test pumping during a 20week heavy cycle I would look at it*yahoo*

[Murhf]

I think this cycle is based on the theory that your test does not shut completly down for 2 1/2 weeks. So you stop before this happens. But its such a short time, I.d barely get a result...so it would seem this would only work for touching up some muscles before a contest and/or using hard gear and alot.

[Terrymundo]

I think its for people who spend more time thinking than lifting. *mail1*

 

[god-of-bodybuilding]

if you're gonna cycle steroids properly then you need to get used to the idea that you're gonna be shut down lol

i've been shutdown for over a year now and probably won't be doing any pct for another couple of years

[Murhf]

Its not the shutting down I have a problem with...its the restarting that concerns me.

[god-of-bodybuilding]

HCG & Clomid and you will be ok bro

[Daz69]

god-of-bodybuilding wrote:

HCG & Clomid and you will be ok bro

[kiwicannon]

And trying to find Legit Pharm Grade HCG is another story all together...

[yeelang]

 

god-of-bodybuilding wrote:

HCG & Clomid and you will be ok bro

With regards hCG: I don't understand why anyone would want to create another level of suppression in their HPTA? IMO there is really no use for hCG, it desensitizes leydig cells in your testes to Leutinizing hormone so that when you eventually cease using hCG it takes a while for your testes to become sensitive to your own body's natural LH, thus prolonging your recovery. The use of hCG in males is limited to increasing fertility in HRT such that guys have enough viable sperm for their partners to conceive. When you are "shut down" your testes actually become more sensitive to LH due to receptor up-regulation. All that hCG will do is prolong your recovery.

 

[Daz69]

My mistake Yeelang... I'd already quoted him on the previous page of this thread and thought I had also in the last post, I clearly hadn't..

Sorry Riccardo..!!

There's a lot I could put on hCG as oppinions have changed over the years as more studies have been conducted, but as Riccardo has already summed it up better than I ever could I don't think there's any point..!!

 

 

[Kalidane]

Its not the shutting down I have a problem with...its the restarting that concerns me.

Is there something you don't like about the usual PCT scenario?

[Murhf]

 

 

Its not the shutting down I have a problem with...its the restarting that concerns me.

Is there something you don't like about the usual PCT scenario?

No mate, just curious about it. Pct works fine.