Long term effects on life expectancy?

[Cameron_R]

So it's clear that the focus of this forum is on the short to medium term, positive effects of using. It is a BB forum after all.

But I'm curious about if there has been any research into long term effects?

Does it effect, negatively or positively, life expectancy?

Does it have any other long term effects?

Ta

Cameron

[I Declare War]

So it's clear that the focus of this forum is on the short to medium term, positive effects of using. It is a BB forum after all.

But I'm curious about if there has been any research into long term effects?

Does it effect, negatively or positively, life expectancy?

Does it have any other long term effects?

Ta

Cameron

Don't know whether there's been any research.

It all depends how much (of the drugs - not just AAS) you abuse/use:

If you use a lot, likely you will have to give up any expectancy of hitting the 80's, 90's or 100's. Unless you have lots of money to get over whatever complications come up.

If you abuse a lot and you're lucky, likely you'll die in your 60's or 70's or some heart related problem.

If you abuse a lot and you're unlucky, you could die whenever - probably in your 40's or 50's of some kidney or heart related problem.

Just my take.

[mr-universe]

anabolic steroids reverse the aging process

more steroids = more life

[Kalidane]

It kinda sounds like you're saying people take PEDs for them quick gains without concern for the chances of dropping dead in 6 months which may not accurately portray thinking on the matter.

There just won't be longitudinal studies on the effects of supraphysiological test levels.

I'm sure US-based life extension institutes will have performed or funded studies proving higher test. levels result in increased longevity and quality of life.

I can't help feeling it will be very hard finding 'clean' and robust studies in this area. Keen to be wrong though!

[Diab0lic]

The jury is still out, but it seems that maintaining physiological levels of test does reduce morbidity in older age, which in turn increases life expectancy somewhat. There is also a risk of prostate cancer with increased test levels, especially once you are older than 70. As far as taking superphysiological levels of gear, I doubt there has been a good enough population to admit it to allow good studies, and since it's only really been a factor for 40 years or so, it probably hasn't even been long enough. Taking large doses of harsh steroids over a long period isn't likely to help you in the very long term though. Most users would tend to chill out a bit once they got past 40 anyway and stick to lower doses and less harsh stuff. Once you do get older it seems that calorie restriction, regular exercise, avoiding stress, a balanced diet high in antioxidants and maintaining physiological hormone levels are your best choices to keep going and going and going. I don't see any studies looking at very long term effects of gear "abuse" but there are many looking at test levels in older men and effect on morbidity and longevity. Here is a snippet

Analyzing a large population-based sample, we observed that men have a generally higher risk of incident cardiovascular morbidity and mortality. Furthermore, men with low TT concentrations were identified as high-risk individuals with regard to 10-year CVD and mortality risk.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23182129

The decline in testosterone with age has been associated with specific physical changes that affect quality of life and life expectancy, although a cause-and-effect relationship is yet to be established.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23125330

Despite some promising results in a variety of studies conducted over the past years presently available data do not justify the broad use of hormones for anti-aging purposes. However, although no single hormone can be recognized as a 'rejuvenating' and life extending agent, some of their actions may be beneficial for the aging process.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18389196

The beneficial effects of hormone replacement in nonelderly hormone-deficient individuals and in postmenopausal women raised hope that hormone substitution might prevent or even reverse some of the symptoms of male aging. However, this approach is hampered by the lack of individual age-related hormone reference values and reliable clinical read-out parameters. The findings so far do not support the need for widespread hormone replacement in elderly men. Larger long-term prospective studies are needed to identify clinically useful read-out parameters, and then demonstrate that hormone replacement can translate into functional parameters, thereby providing the individual benefit of treatment for aging men.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11404052

[Cameron_R]

What ages are the old school Mr Olympia's, and similar, living until?

(Obvious assption I'm maki g is that those guys all used)

[mbag012]

frank zane is 71 years old and hes still looking quite a bit better than decent. in fact he looks better than 95% of the guys at my gym still

[Daz69]

So it's clear that the focus of this forum is on the short to medium term, positive effects of using. It is a BB forum after all.

But I'm curious about if there has been any research into long term effects?

Does it effect, negatively or positively, life expectancy?

Does it have any other long term effects?

Ta

Cameron

Would an extra few years added on to life in your 70's or 80's be worth it, against not having a life time on gear....?

[Leeroid]

Would an extra few years added on to life in your 70's or 80's be worth it, against not having a life time on gear....?

This!

Would rather shine brightly for a few years than live dully for an eternity

[I Declare War]

Would an extra few years added on to life in your 70's or 80's be worth it, against not having a life time on gear....?

This!

Would rather shine brightly for a few years than live dully for an eternity

lol yololollololl

Sure while we are young we think this way... but as you get older... will you still think like that?

Do you really want to stuff up your chances of living to 100? With the rate of technological advance, maybe in 50-60 years we will be at a stage where all/most bodily systems can be swapped out/replaced/upgraded. Wouldn't it be a shame if you died in 30 years time when you're 50 years old. You'll miss out on becoming a cyborg that can bench 10,000kgs.

Yes, YOLO, but YODO too.

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

Would an extra few years added on to life in your 70's or 80's be worth it, against not having a life time on gear....?

This!

Would rather shine brightly for a few years than live dully for an eternity

lol yololollololl

Sure while we are young we think this way... but as you get older... will you still think like that?

Do you really want to stuff up your chances of living to 100? With the rate of technological advance, maybe in 50-60 years we will be at a stage where all/most bodily systems can be swapped out/replaced/upgraded. Wouldn't it be a shame if you died in 30 years time when you're 50 years old. You'll miss out on becoming a cyborg that can bench 10,000kgs.

Yes, YOLO, but YODO too.

pretty sure if you ever end up having kids that mindset will take a u-turn.

and this argument well umm.. most common thing i hear from people is "Arnold's still alive and kicking"

[Murhf]

Personally I sacrificed at least 20 years, just to live thru my twentys. Quite happy to drop years off the end for short-mid term gain. The benefits far out weight the draw backs.

To live with regrets is just a waste of space, saying all that Iam single, still get laid alot, boys grown up.

[Murhf]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/ ... on294a.jpg

Picture of Frank Zane 5 years ago...64.

[Daz69]

Would an extra few years added on to life in your 70's or 80's be worth it, against not having a life time on gear....?

This!

Would rather shine brightly for a few years than live dully for an eternity

lol yololollololl

Sure while we are young we think this way... but as you get older... will you still think like that?

.

I am older Marty...... :wink:

[Kalidane]

This!

Would rather shine brightly for a few years than live dully for an eternity

lol yololollololl

Sure while we are young we think this way... but as you get older... will you still think like that?

.

I am older Marty...... :wink:

lol shot bro

Thought I heard that you are dead for tax purposes? Sounds complex...

[I Declare War]

This!

Would rather shine brightly for a few years than live dully for an eternity

lol yololollololl

Sure while we are young we think this way... but as you get older... will you still think like that?

.

I am older Marty...... :wink:

Tongue-in-cheek Daz

I rationalise it this way... could get hit by a bus tomorrow. So, just do it.

[Cameron_R]

What ages are the old school Mr Olympia's, and similar, living until?

(Obvious assption I'm maki g is that those guys all used)

 

I've still been thinking about this, and being a geek I just put together this using Wikipedia. Basically it doesn't help me with my original question at all, but I thought I'd share it anyway.

 

• Larry Scott    74 years old and alive
• Sergio Oliva    71 years old and alive
• Arnold Schwarzenegger    65 years old and alive
• Franco Columbu    71 years old and alive
• Frank Zane    71 years old and alive
• Chris Dickerson    73 years old and alive
• Samir Bannout    57 years old and alive
• Lee Haney    53 years old and alive
• Dorian Yates    51 years old and alive
• Ronnie Coleman    49 years old and alive
• Jay Cutler    39 years old and alive
• Dexter Jackson    43 years old and alive
• Phil Heath    33 years old and alive

[Pseudonym]

You have far too much time on your hands, mate! Interesting, though...