Alternative to caber/bromocriptine ; anti prolactin/progeste

[clebbens]

Since these two compounds are not really available in nz, what is the best way to avoid prolactin/ Tren induced gyno?

I see people taking Tren on these boards but none of them have anti prolactin.

Last time I took Tren A, there was bit of secretion from nipples so definitely gyno prone and would like to hear some thoughts on how to minimise the risk.

Ta.

[yeelang]

How much/were you running testosterone with it?

[clebbens]

Started with test 500 and Tren a 70mg eod. Ever since bit of gyno, reduced test to 400/wk and increased Tren to 60ed. So Tren and test were dosed at about same mg/wk.

Letro seemed to work in reducing gyno.

[clebbens]

anyone?

[Daz69]

anyone?

If the gyno persists you could drop the Tren to 50mg EOD..

Just a personal opinion, I wouldn't mess with a D2 agonist..

Tren is not meant to aromatise, and is not measurable estrogenic but can display a significant binding affinity for the progesterone receptor. Progestins augment the stimulatory effect of estrogens on mammary growth tissue.. However you need increased estrogen levels to have synergy with progesterone to convert to prolactin at the pituitary, you could use an AI to stop your testosterone aromatising into estrogen..

The initial gyno might just have been a reaction to the start of your cycle and could just disappear, if not and it gets worse even with an AI maybe Tren is not for you and drop it...

I would be interested in Riccardo's or DiabOlic's response...

[clebbens]

, There is a theory where if you run Tren mg > Test mg/wk, you prevent test conversion to estrogen to start with, and Tren does not aromatise so prolactin issues could be avoided.

what is confusing is there are quite a few in nz who have done Tren cycles but no one mentions caber/ bromo in their plan. but overseas forums pretty much say hell no to Tren unless caber on hand..

[Riccardo]

Like I said in PM killing estrogen with letrozole will prevent any gyno issues however since it has already flared up it might not help you straight away. A low dose of test can be used to prevent estrogen build up and allow you to use a lot more tren but the testosterone wouldnt be much more than an HRT dosage.

Lower your estrogen and you wont have problems.