Riding my bike

[Leeroid]

Not really srs about it, just replacing my arms training on Saturdays with arm wrestling. May take up rugby soon if I get my cardio up. Everyone reckons I should get into it

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

ah thats how it is. well i bet you got pretty good forearms too from your powerlifting days which explains your success so far, grip is afterall the most important aspect in arm wrestling. pls stay safe on arm days, don't become another victor martinez. and asians in rugby? never heard of it mate :pfft:

[jimmybro1]

Not really srs about it, just replacing my arms training on Saturdays with arm wrestling. May take up rugby soon if I get my cardio up. Everyone reckons I should get into it

I'm going to take up rugby next session want to use my strength for something useful!

[Leeroid]

Bench

40kg x12

Paused bench

60kg x5

80kg x5

100kg x3

110kg x1

115kg x1

Incline DB bench

30kg x10, 8, 6

Dips

x15, 12, 12

Machine press

x12, 12, 15

Leg press calf raises

x12, 6 sets

Standing calf raises

x12, 3 sets

DB flyes

15kg x20, 2 sets

80.75kgs

Shoulder was pretty good, could feel it starting to get sensitive so didnt push too hard. Really happy with 115 bench. Was a bit slow but felt like 120 may be possible on a good day.

[Leeroid]

Arms

Wrist curls

27kg x12, 3 sets

Reverse curls

27kg x10, 3 sets

DB curls

20kg x6, 4 sets

Close grip bench press

60kg x12

100kg x5

80kg x9, 6

Incline curls

10kg x10, 3 sets

Skullcrushers

27kg x12, 3 sets

Preacher EZ bar curls

27kg x10, 8, 6

Reverse tricep pushdowns

x20, 15, 15

Hammer curls

Drop set 17.5kg x8, 15kg x4, 12.5kg x5, 10kg x5, 8kg x6, 2 sets

Tricep pushdowns

x12, 3 sets last set drop set

Hanging leg raises

x15, 10, 8

Incline situps superset with plank

x12, 1 min, 2 sets

81.35kg

Drank about 2 litres of water during my workout so I was a bit heavier. My preworkout arrived today so I'm looking forward to trying it out tomorrow. Got some Craze. I've never used preworkout before in my life so it'll be interesting to see how I feel. I'm only planning on using it on days I feel down.

I felt really strong today, reps were up and weights were feeling lighter too. May be the tren dosage kicking in as I'm now on 350mg tren since last Tuesday. Still don't really feel anything from the tren but if my strength keeps increasing, it'll convince me that it's legit.

[rapz]

just got some craze today bro, slammed 2 scoops before my workout a couple of hours ago, shit is potent, dont think ill be sleeping tonight :pfft:

apparently the guy at my supplement shop reckons craze might be getting banned for ingredients that are not supposed to be in it, whether hes talking shit or not i wouldnt know.

hope to see some good progress from tren, been doing a lot of reading on this compund, have you seen much change in body comp?

[Leeroid]

just got some craze today bro, slammed 2 scoops before my workout a couple of hours ago, shit is potent, dont think ill be sleeping tonight :pfft:

apparently the guy at my supplement shop reckons craze might be getting banned for ingredients that are not supposed to be in it, whether hes talking shit or not i wouldnt know.

hope to see some good progress from tren, been doing a lot of reading on this compund, have you seen much change in body comp?

Yeah heard some good reviews about it from multiple people so decided to give the Craze a go.

Not really any change from the tren. Haven't noticed any hardening up, or extra vascularity which is why I'm wondering about the potency of this tren.

[soundsgood]

just got some craze today bro, slammed 2 scoops before my workout a couple of hours ago, shit is potent, dont think ill be sleeping tonight :pfft:

apparently the guy at my supplement shop reckons craze might be getting banned for ingredients that are not supposed to be in it, whether hes talking shit or not i wouldnt know.

hope to see some good progress from tren, been doing a lot of reading on this compund, have you seen much change in body comp?

Yeah heard some good reviews about it from multiple people so decided to give the Craze a go.

Not really any change from the tren. Haven't noticed any hardening up, or extra vascularity which is why I'm wondering about the potency of this tren.

Craze is way over the top for me. Come down is a bitch!

[Pseudonym]

What brand tren u using bro?

Ahem. No brand names, please. :naughty:

Remember?

[Leeroid]

Legs today

Squat

60kg x8

100kg x5

140kg x5 (belt)

180kg x2

200kg x1 (belt and knee wraps)

Walk outs

220kg x1

240kg x1

Squat

220kg x0 (belt and knee wraps)

140kg x12 (belt only)

Front squats

100kg x10, 6

Lying leg curls superset with good mornings

x12, 60kg x10

x10, 60kg x10

x10, 60kg x 8

Leg extensions superset with lunges

Full stack x12, x26

Full stack x10, x20

79.9kgs before workout and 80.4kgs after.

Took preworkout today. Got the lemonade berry flavor and it was really nice. I couldn't really say I felt much from it though, only had one scoop. Maybe I'm just really tolerant to stims despite never taking anything.

Ended up with an insane pump in my legs though. I could hardly walk, had to waddle like a duck to stop my adductors from rubbing together.

Pretty disappointed that I didn't get 220kgs, it was pretty close. I reckon I'm weaker than I was in week 8 of my first cycle back in the middle of Janurary cos I did 200 for 5 reps then and today 200 for one rep was a grind. I think it's cos I was really focusing on my hamstrings and posterior chain on my first cycle whereas the last few months I've pretty much ignored that muscle group and focused on arms. At least my bench has improved a bit.

Here's a vid of my failed 220kg attempt, using Metal Black knee wraps 2.5m. I find that they're not stiff at all compared to the T1tan THP knee wraps. All the reviews claimed that they were stiff as hell but if I knew how stretchy they were I would've just bought a 2.5m pair of THPs. I probably get the same amount of carryover due to the fact they're longer and the THPs are quite worn out now.

Also attached picture of quad pump

[Rxx]

Quads look huge! Not far off that 220 either man, nice work.

[Leeroid]

Lateral raises

10kg x12, 3 sets

Barbell seated shoulder press

40kg x12

60kg x6

50kg x10

DB shoulder press

20kg x8, 3 seys

Delt triad 7.5kgs, 2 sets

Cable lateral raises

x10, 2 sets

81.3kgs

[jimmybro1]

Legit depth man, you were almost out of the hole.

My knee wraps arrived yesterday going to give them a tear tomorrow.

[I Declare War]

Lateral raises

10kg x12, 3 sets

Barbell seated shoulder press

40kg x12

60kg x6

50kg x10

DB shoulder press

20kg x8, 3 seys

Delt triad 7.5kgs, 2 sets

Cable lateral raises

x10, 2 sets

81.3kgs

Not too sure what the goal is here? It looks like you don't train shoulders hard enough. You could do all this and recover from it naturally.

Not hating... I understand that you can only do what you can do. But, If I were you I'd try build some bigger peaks into the exercises though. Side raises, you could do a set or two with a heavier dumb bell. Get a feel of what you can do every workout, and aim to work where you are at, rather than at a pre-defined weight. That delt triad also seems pretty light and pumpy. You should be able to front raise what you can side raise..

With them presses, say if you did 3 good sets at the right weight with either dumb bell or barbell you'd probably make more progress with strength. 55kg on the Barbell would probably give you a good workout, or 27.5kg DB's look to be what you could handle. All about picking the right weight to work with.

[Leeroid]

Yeah man, usually I try and do 10+ sets of heavy presses and Ive worked up to 35s for 6 reps before. But my shoulders have been pretty niggly and always play up if I push them too hard so Ive decided to try and pre exhaust them and go for a burn and a pump rather. I didnt have any shoulder discomfort yesterday which was nice for a change.

Chur

[ohjoshua]

Cant beleive you didnt make that squat, you were so far up.

Video made me LOL when he had to drop the camera and run to help.

Good work on your training mate. Nice frequency keep it up.

[tomsammce]

What do u expect from tren? Ur getting stronger aren't you?

[Leeroid]

What do u expect from tren? Ur getting stronger aren't you?

I was expecting to get ripped vascular and put 30kgs on my bench lol. Or thats what sounded like should happen haha

[tomsammce]

Ur expectations are too high, probably due to certain individuals on this forum letting their imaginations run wild and posting their deluded opinions on how they feel on tren.

if you don't have alot of muscle mass like you Tom (not being a smartarse) u won't notice much as far as body composition changes such as vascularity or looking leaner and harder. Will be good for strength gains and you should still be gaining weight if ur eating enough protein. Drink lots of water too.

[I Declare War]

Yeah man, usually I try and do 10+ sets of heavy presses and Ive worked up to 35s for 6 reps before. But my shoulders have been pretty niggly and always play up if I push them too hard so Ive decided to try and pre exhaust them and go for a burn and a pump rather. I didnt have any shoulder discomfort yesterday which was nice for a change.

Chur

Cool. I get niggly shoulders from heavy presses as well, so I know how you feel! What I've been doing lately is shift the focus to and from presses. When I go lighter on the presses I go heavier on the iso exercises, usually putting the presses at the end in a machine to guide the plane of motion (helps save the shoulders a lot, especially when you start failing). Seems to be working great, been working with weights on the iso exercises that I've only ever dreamed of this year. At some point I'll focus back on the presses again and I'm sure I'll come back at it hard.

Don't worry about the drugs too much at this stage I'd say. Sure, some may think my ranting about tren when I'm on the stuff can get a bit deluded... for me it's not so much strength I get from it, it's the elevated mood (I go off the rails on it) and increased confidence. Strength... Dbol, can't argue with Dbol... you'd get the +30kg on your bench if you pick your weights well for a month or two while on a moderate dose of that stuff!

And... maybe your bloody tren is fake? I'd expect you to be raving about it given it's the first time on it. I love the shit... but i'm bi-polar as f*ck (so maybe if affects me more than others?) and it slams me in to the ground hard if I'm not careful.

[train hard]

What do u expect from tren? Ur getting stronger aren't you?

I was expecting to get ripped vascular and put 30kgs on my bench lol. Or thats what sounded like should happen haha

lol go hard leeroid

[train hard]

Don,t get me wrong tren is one of the strongest steroids with some of the worst sides but i find its muscle building effects are abit overrated compared to what you read about on paper and i have tried all sorts of tren

[Optimass]

Lateral raises

10kg x12, 3 sets

Barbell seated shoulder press

40kg x12

60kg x6

50kg x10

DB shoulder press

20kg x8, 3 seys

Delt triad 7.5kgs, 2 sets

Cable lateral raises

x10, 2 sets

81.3kgs

Not too sure what the goal is here? It looks like you don't train shoulders hard enough. You could do all this and recover from it naturally.

^^ Agree : Interesting you do a separate arms workout. Your arms get a lot of work on Chest/Back/Shoulders any way. Haven't read through your whole journal bro but I suspect you want size and strength. Why such an elaborate arms workout when you can merge bis and tris with a major group and economize on time with essentially the same result. Arm curls and tricep extension are not going to improve your bench and will not add as much mass as heavy rowing movements and heavy pressing movements.

Also sometimes changing your frequency around workouts and hitting body part twice in 7 days on rotation would nett good results given your recovery should be very quick. i.e 2days on, 1 off, 2 days on (4 day split) and then repeat after a another rest day.

Again - haven't read your whole journal so may not have the full picture.

[Leeroid]

^^ Agree : Interesting you do a separate arms workout. Your arms get a lot of work on Chest/Back/Shoulders any way. Haven't read through your whole journal bro but I suspect you want size and strength. Why such an elaborate arms workout when you can merge bis and tris with a major group and economize on time with essentially the same result. Arm curls and tricep extension are not going to improve your bench and will not add as much mass as heavy rowing movements and heavy pressing movements.

Also sometimes changing your frequency around workouts and hitting body part twice in 7 days on rotation would nett good results given your recovery should be very quick. i.e 2days on, 1 off, 2 days on (4 day split) and then repeat after a another rest day.

Again - haven't read your whole journal so may not have the full picture.

Thanks for your feedback Opti. But the thing is I used to do that (incorporating bis/tris in with other major body parts). And the result was nothing.

Since I started giving my arms a separate day, they have been feeling a lot more stimulated and they have grown.

As for not training shoulders hard enough, as I mentioned before I would go a lot harder if it wasn't for my bad rotator cuffs.

[Leeroid]

What do u expect from tren? Ur getting stronger aren't you?

I was expecting to get ripped vascular and put 30kgs on my bench lol. Or thats what sounded like should happen haha

lol go hard leeroid

You didn't have to edit your post. There was nothing wrong with it lol.

And I wasn't being entirely srs. Just that I was expecting a bit more. I just can't tell that I'm on tren at all at the moment. I'll probably just ditch the tren after I finish what I have and stick to simpler stuff after. I was just itching to try it after reading some crazy stuff about it (GH15's post on tren http://gh15biblebodybuild.blogspot.co.n ... facts.html).