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I train at counties fitness, 151 manukau road, Pukekohe. I have been doing OL related training for about 7 month.

Its a bit hard when you don't have bumper plates and cheap barbells.

In fact I just had a very minor wrist injury when i tried to lower the weight after a jerk. :cry:

I am thinking about getting a weight set to train at home.

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Do you have a coach or someone who watches you lift?

The trouble with do-it-yourself OL is that if you learn a bad motor pattern (skill training) and reinforce it with months of training, it will be hard/very frustrating for you to re-learn and correct that technique. Of course it will depend just how bad the technique really is. I would recommend to train with someone who knows proper technique or maybe getting a coach so they could give you some immediate feedback on your technique.

What are the numbers that youve done so far?

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I ususally get my dad to watch me and the mirror. I have a "online coach" lol. I know someone that work as a coach in a chinese female provincial team. Former world champ. I actually went there and watched them train for 3 weeks in mid 06, that helped a lot. I try to read up all the info that I can. Watch plenty of video etc.

My current best lifts are 70 sntach (done yestoday), my squat under is a bit slow in snatch. 95kg CJ, done this morning.

best clean so far 105kg, i can do more if my technique is spot on.

general strength: 155 back squat, 135 front squat, overhead press 80x4, push press 100kg.

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Nice lifts! Keep drilling the technique.

Chinese lifters are great to watch, I have trained with them also. Very inspirational. What they say is true, somewhere in China a little girl is warming up with your max weights.

How did you manage to get such an opportunity? Can you tell us about their usual training day?

I want to go to Russia and train there.

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My uncle is the dean of sports faculty of the university that particular weightlifter / coach studied. So I asked him to hook me up :grin:

In China, atheletes ususally finishes their university studies after they retire.

This particular provincial training centre had about 8 female junior lifters, (they have 18 now). The seniors trains at a different facility. The lifter range from 12 to 18 yo, from seceondary school. They live on site. Training schedule is twice per day, mon, wed, fri, once per day + active recovery on tue, thur, sat. sunday off. I told the coach about Abajev's methods. I think some of the lifters train 3x per days now. They think it's a good way to cut down their spare time, so they don't have the engery to stay up all night ( bad for recovery). :shifty:

For a typical day the schedule is like this:

0700: wake up, breakfast. studies a bit

0830: training, mostly skill based excercise

1100: study

1200: lunch

1230: nap

1430: training, more strength excercise,

1700: study

1800: dinner

1900: study

2100: wash personal cloth

2130: lights out

they have glycogen drinks half way through the session. training room is air conditioned.

they do a lot of pulls, various style. The do more deadlifts than other countries too. I think in terms of genetics, the chinese tend to have a long torso, so they do more deadlifts to strengthen the lower back. They squat 3x per week. work up to max once per week. they train at slightly higher volume and lower intensity compared to men. after every workout, they do abs with weights, and do spine decompression couple of times per week.

I remembered one 53kg class lifter hang snatched 105kg, a 63kg class lifter CJ 140 kg, both are 18.

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The coach had specialised programmes for every lifter, to work on theri weaknesses. For instance dead hang snatch, lifts from blocks, good morning/ hack extension. They can frequent messages, and use various restorative methods. I didn't ask about "advanced restoratives", only the head coach know about them. Two lifters are with in 10% of world record, and placed top 3 in 06 national championship.

I think the chinese focus a lot on the second pull, they tend to start the first pull relatively slowly, and maximise on triple extension. They teach the lifter to rise on toes, shrug the bar. Although not the most efficient technique, but it works. I had some discussions with the coach and this particular aspect. They reckon it is easier to teach. Not many people can rip the bar from the floor and achieve perfect bar trajectory when they just started learning. They teach the lifters to go for a low split jerk position. It is more chanllenging, but it pays off at the end. Most of the world record holders in CJ (especially in lower weight classes) have a low split jerk.

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Thanks for sharing your overseas experience. Very interesting indeed. When I was watching the athletes lift and the weight got heavy, their pull looked very slow, almost like a heavy deadlift but then they're extremely fast under the bar, amazing to watch. Interesting stuff on recovery, what do they do for active rest (recovery)?

I've heard nice things about St Petersberg. Maybe once I finish my degree and get a little bit of money, I'll have to arrange a trip there.

I think one of the clubs in NZ, may go to China for training experience this year.

Are you competitive at the moment? How old are you now?

I have this years calendar that outlines major competitions, their dates and locations, if you're interested in competing.

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The active recovery consist of various sports. Table tennis , batmington (sp) being quite popular. a bit of walking, doing some light BB excercises etc.

This particular coach i talked to thinks that it is important to relax the mind and feel good. The active rest should be something different, not boring. Teenagers are get bored quickly, so its best to add some variaty to it.

I am 25 this year. I would love to compete in the future. But at the moment, my technique is not consistent. CJ is ok, but in snatch anything above 80%,my success rate is only about 30-40%. yestoday, 2 out 4 at 60kg, 1 out of 2 at 65kg, and 1 out of 3 at 70kg, I just kept on tring till I got it. :twisted: I am looking forward to compete once i get my technique nailed down. I am hoping to snatch 80 and CJ 110 in April. Send me the 07 schedule.

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Check yours PMs.

First you need to be affiliated to a federation if you wanted to compete, to do that you need to pay a small fee (20-40$) and that will last you a year.

If you wanted to compete in club competitions, there are no required totals. I believe the same goes for North Island Championships. However, if you wanted to compete in National Championships then you must do C-grade total to qualify. For international competitions, like Oceania and World Champs/Olympics/Commonwealth there are different (higher) totals to qualify.

If you've never been to a competition before I'd suggest you have a look at the calendar, pick a club meet, come down and have a look. Don't think you can't do 95/130, you've got a whole year to achieve it. By the way, National Championship is being held in Auckland so even if you don't qualify to lift in it you can still come down and watch.

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I train at counties fitness, 151 manukau road, Pukekohe. I have been doing OL related training for about 7 month.

Its a bit hard when you don't have bumper plates and cheap barbells.

In fact I just had a very minor wrist injury when i tried to lower the weight after a jerk. :cry:

I am thinking about getting a weight set to train at home.

Hi Mephistopheles,

Interesting that you train at Counties Fitness. This gym was started up by my Father Kevin Judson who was one of NZ'S best olympic lifters in the early to late 80's. At 75kg did a 310 total. He was also No 1 in the world for power lifting with a 840 total at 75kg. He still resides in Pukekohe so if you want some one to check your technique out, let me know, im sure he wouldnt mind.

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