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Daz69

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Daz is right with Black being positive for MD**. It is also true that the faster this reaction occurs the better. I've even seen (along time ago) it go black instantly and give off smoke/steamy reaction thing.

If everyone got test kits it would be good for the scene.

Its almost immediate, but certainly between 5-10 seconds a blue'ish, purple'ish to black, ending in black within 1 min..

And yes some smoke is omitted, accompanying a bubbling or fizzing.... generally..

A kit with enough reagent to do up to 200 tests costs less than the price of a couple of pills....

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haha people can rationalize any type of drug and the positive benefits from them, but at the end of the day everyone knows that shit isn't good for you lol

like fat women rationalizing eating dark chocolate for fat loss

or alcoholics rationalizing drinking red wine because of it's antioxidants

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haha people can rationalize any type of drug and the positive benefits from them, but at the end of the day everyone knows that shit isn't good for you lol

like fat women rationalizing eating dark chocolate for fat loss

or alcoholics rationalizing drinking red wine because of it's antioxidants

I don't think anything that makes you feel good, is good for your health when abused. But when taken in moderation with pre & post loading of vitamins, anti-oxidants, correct hydration and body temperature regulation, without re-dosing and at a sensible dosage, you can have a great night out on MDMA without significant side effects..

Drugs don't abuse people.... People abuse drugs...

Take your examples: there are some stimulant and fat loss properties to dark chocolate, and anti-oxidant benefits to red wine, its only when abused that it becomes a negative issue...

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The best way to test it is to drop it.

Ppl have had pills which tested the colours of md.. Before and they were shit.

Not saying your wrong, but a testing kit isn't 100% reliable

With a test kit Tom it depends upon the method of testing as to how accurate a result is possible. Marquis Reagent on its own only gives a general indication as to whether a substance is MD** or other recreational drug, it is possible for manufacturers to beat a test & show a positive if they have the know-how..

However if multiple test kits are used such as Mandelin, Marquis, Mecke, Robadope, and Simons you can near it down pretty accurately..

The best way to obtain premium price for pills might be to show a multi-test positive result, especially since most NZ pills have been shite for years....

Unless its all about money, & ripping people off, especially when goods are known to be bunk...

Not about providing a quality product at a fair price, just so people can have a good time... Like it used to be, back in the good old days....

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If someone could 100% guarantee I was getting MD MA I would pay 200$ a tab. I don't understand how there isn't a market for it surely there are people like me would pay 5x the price to get something that isn't a bathtub concoction of rat poison and caffeine

^me too

the stuff they call ecstacy now is a fuking joke you would get a better buzz taking 3 tabs of ripped freak

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That's abit it an exaggeration bro.

Most of the research chemicals are actually pretty decent. The main problem is the next day is the difference with regards to how u feel.

Btw ppl dnt pay for quality. Everyone loves a good deal... Everyone on here should know this, that's y all the sellers are conplaining about the price of vials going for so cheap cause everyone's jumped ship to the cheapest deal possible without any real knowledge on anything.

Pills aren't any different, same mentality.

Pills actually go through twice as many hands as steroids do before it hits the end user. So that's even less shits given about u and more about how much money it puts in their pockets.

Anyway hope u can find urselfs some good stuff for NYs if ur that way inclined. Have a good one and please stay safe lol.

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yea bit of an exageration i don,t know much about the current crop of stuff out there just remanicing on the old glory days when there was plenty of mdma around i don,t touch the shit now but would pay a premium for a very special occasion i guess that not gona make the dealers much money though so ill stick to my 6 pack of heines

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That's abit it an exaggeration bro.

Most of the research chemicals are actually pretty decent. The main problem is the next day is the difference with regards to how u feel.

Pills actually go through twice as many hands as steroids do before it hits the end user. So that's even less shits given about u and more about how much money it puts in their pockets.

MDMA blocks the reuptake pumps for certain neurotransmitters, thus increasing their levels in the synaptic gap and their effect on the post-synaptic neurons’ receptors,

While MDMA also potentiates the effects of norepinephrine and dopamine, it is distinguished from other psychostimulants by its strong affinity for serotonin transporters, particularly 5-HT2a receptors.

None of the research chemicals currently available in NZ show anything like the effects of MDMA...

4-MMC (4-methylmethcathinone) was probably the nearest, but due to its re-categorisation in China its almost impossible to obtain..

It passes through just as many hands in the UK but still sell for 1.50p each..

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The market/demand is huge in Uk. U can make money purely on quantity sold regardless of price, and supply is so high that it drives the value/price down forcing ppl to sell it so cheap. better to make a little than nothing at all, right? That's why steroids is sold for next to nothing over there but guys can still just sell steroids and not work.

It's just simple economics of supply and demand.

It's so close to Europe so stuff is much more accessible.

This is nz not the uk Daz for like 25th time lol

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The market/demand is huge in Uk. U can make money purely on quantity sold regardless of price, and supply is so high that it drives the value/price down forcing ppl to sell it so cheap. better to make a little than nothing at all, right? That's why steroids is sold for next to nothing over there but guys can still just sell steroids and not work.

It's just simple economics of supply and demand.

It's so close to Europe so stuff is much more accessible.

This is nz not the uk Daz for like 25th time lol

Its like the 23rd Tom, don't exaggerate.....

Considering most of the powders come from China anyway, quality of product shouldn't be an issue...

But I'll agree with your market price argument, the UK population is 20 times the size of NZ...

But bunk pills for $30-50 each, when you're not even getting the real deal is a piss take... Especially when a fairly reliable testing system is possible...

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But bunk pills for $30-50 each, when you're not even getting the real deal is a piss take... Especially when a fairly reliable testing system is possible...

Unless people wise up and stop buying this crap, things won't change. At the moment there's a demand, idiots are buying and the cycle continues. The consumer holds the power, the problem is the true E consumer for the most part has outgrown clubbing, moved on and does not demand a high quality product anymore.

I'd like to take the occasional good 100mg + mdma tab. But they're just not around - at least not in nz.

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But bunk pills for $30-50 each, when you're not even getting the real deal is a piss take... Especially when a fairly reliable testing system is possible...

Unless people wise up and stop buying this crap, things won't change. At the moment there's a demand, idiots are buying and the cycle continues. The consumer holds the power, the problem is the true E consumer for the most part has outgrown clubbing, moved on and does not demand a high quality product anymore.

I'd like to take the occasional good 100mg + mdma tab. But they're just not around - at least not in nz.

You're correct, if those selling got left with their own crap, there wouldn't be crap on the market..

The market is there for a decent product, but the product isn't there.

Like it or not, drugs are, and always will be part of Youth culture in modern society.

The problem is when the only alternative is shit pills or methamphetamine..

The alarming trend now in New Zealand is towards Meth', as there is nothing else, which is disturbing considering the social effects Meth has on Society...

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