2ML/500mg Per Week First Test E Cycle

[Stanley]

Tue Thur, doing 1ML each day. Is this too much for a first cylce? Worried about side effects, in week 3 now and due for another jab tomorrow. A friend said it maybe a bit too much, as the "Safe" cylce is 500ml Tue Thur/1ML total.

29 y/o

6"5

115kgs

Stats. Had above normal natural levels when tested at the doctors before starting the cylce.

Is 2ML too much; Should I take a week off all together or cut down to 1ML and what about side effects? I have noticed my sex drive has dropped a little bit, but I have noticed Strength/Workrate/Recovery and Aggression gains.

[dannyjay]

how much mg per ml?

[Stanley]

250mg/ml, so 500mg per week.

Plan was to have 2ml p/w-500mg over a 10 week period, 2 10ml vials. It is my first cycle, so was going to keep it simple with just Test E. But as I said nothing for any Gyno (Nolvadex or Clomid) side effects; if that would occur on what I am using.

[Diab0lic]

I'm voting for no it's not too much A higher dosage and or/ additional compounds would be too much for a first timer but half a gram of enanthate a week is bread and butter stuff for guys starting out. Some will recommend you have some adex on hand in case you need it. Not vital but it is sensible. Main thing is to have your pct sorted well before you need it, (preferably before you start just in case source falls through or you need to stop early), and to eat and train your ass off Sooner you buy some nolva the better to be safe

[Stanley]

Currently in week 3, if anyone could give me a simple Nolva and Adex advice to run during my cycle at present would be good or PM me.

Cheers.

[Kiwijuice]

why are you pinning only 1 day apart? kinda defeats the point of pinning twice a week.

[Diab0lic]

Yeah, move the Tuesday shot to Monday

[Chemo]

500mg isn't too much, you'll enjoy it, and the sides will be tolerable if you even get any. What's your bodyfat at?

Adex is a nice to have thing, depends on your budget for your first cycle.

Focus your budget on eating right and getting enough cals and protein, not cheap as is anyways.

Definitely get Nolva for pct and or emergency though.

Enjoy mang!

[denzil]

Tue Thur, doing 1ML each day. Is this too much for a first cylce? Worried about side effects, in week 3 now and due for another jab tomorrow. A friend said it maybe a bit too much, as the "Safe" cylce is 500ml Tue Thur/1ML total.

29 y/o

6"5

115kgs

Stats. Had above normal natural levels when tested at the doctors before starting the cylce.

Is 2ML too much; Should I take a week off all together or cut down to 1ML and what about side effects? I have noticed my sex drive has dropped a little bit, but I have noticed Strength/Workrate/Recovery and Aggression gains.

2ml a week at 500mg is a sweet first cycle bro! dont stress it is what most ppl start of at.. if i have to give you any advice from what iv learnt it would be to eat heaps man! make sure your eating atleast 250g protien eat moderta high carbs know what your doing interms of diet i hope you know how to count your calz, carb and protien intake also lots of water bro say 3l a day to start with ..know this bro its aint no miracle drug dont expect astronomical gains of one cycle u need to eat hard train hard rest hard..many newbs jump on a cycle expecting "roid" like gains of one cycle with a shit diet it and are left dissapointed then blame the gear.. dont b one of them il tel u now diet is everything whilst on ..all the best..as for pct just use nolva 2 weeks aftr your last shot for 4 weeks at 40/40/25/25 supplement with zinc and trib if u must..its a beginner cycle man dont stress

[tomsammce]

500/week is alot of test for a first cycle especially after a few weeks its built up and u have alot in ur system.

500mg for first cycle I say is for ppl who dnt know what they are doing. No offence. And I tell lotsa ppl to use 500 mg/week cause I know if they take 250 they'll just bitch at the end

If u are smart on 250mg per week u can get as good gains from using half the amount.

Either or though. There is enough threads and debates on it in this forum if u search it.

[Riccardo]

500/week is alot of test for a first cycle especially after a few weeks its built up and u have alot in ur system.

500mg for first cycle I say is for ppl who dnt know what they are doing. No offence. And I tell lotsa ppl to use 500 mg/week cause I know if they take 250 they'll just bitch at the end

If u are smart on 250mg per week u can get as good gains from using half the amount.

Either or though. There is enough threads and debates on it in this forum if u search it.

This! Whats the point in going straight to 500mg when you can gain off 250? Use the lowest possible dose to get an effect. Start off on 500, what dosages will you be using by your 2nd, 4th or 5th cycle?

[Chemo]

500/week is alot of test for a first cycle especially after a few weeks its built up and u have alot in ur system.

500mg for first cycle I say is for ppl who dnt know what they are doing. No offence. And I tell lotsa ppl to use 500 mg/week cause I know if they take 250 they'll just bitch at the end

If u are smart on 250mg per week u can get as good gains from using half the amount.

Either or though. There is enough threads and debates on it in this forum if u search it.

This! Whats the point in going straight to 500mg when you can gain off 250? Use the lowest possible dose to get an effect. Start off on 500, what dosages will you be using by your 2nd, 4th or 5th cycle?

1 gram of EVERYYTHINGGG

[Android]

500/week is alot of test for a first cycle especially after a few weeks its built up and u have alot in ur system.

500mg for first cycle I say is for ppl who dnt know what they are doing. No offence. And I tell lotsa ppl to use 500 mg/week cause I know if they take 250 they'll just bitch at the end

If u are smart on 250mg per week u can get as good gains from using half the amount.

Either or though. There is enough threads and debates on it in this forum if u search it.

This! Whats the point in going straight to 500mg when you can gain off 250? Use the lowest possible dose to get an effect. Start off on 500, what dosages will you be using by your 2nd, 4th or 5th cycle?

1 gram of EVERYYTHINGGG

Now you're talking! 1 gram will be 4-5mls of grape seed oil so you'll def get good results regardless of diet and exercise

[severe]

This! Whats the point in going straight to 500mg when you can gain off 250? Use the lowest possible dose to get an effect. Start off on 500, what dosages will you be using by your 2nd, 4th or 5th cycle?

1 gram of EVERYYTHINGGG

Now you're talking! 1 gram will be 4-5mls of grape seed oil so you'll def get good results regardless of diet and exercise

That's how I get my calories. Like a boss.

[Stanley]

Just throwing it out there; read various info takes 4/5/6 weeks for Test E to kick in; what would the masses say for it to be noticeable?

Also what would a first cycle be advisable 10/12/15 week cycle at the dosage and what would the stop time be for my next cycle - I have read you take the time from the first spike? Looking to do a 250/deca cycle.

Thanks for the feedback.

[dannyjay]

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[Daz69]

Just throwing it out there; read various info takes 4/5/6 weeks for Test E to kick in; what would the masses say for it to be noticeable?

Also what would a first cycle be advisable 10/12/15 week cycle at the dosage and what would the stop time be for my next cycle - I have read you take the time from the first spike? Looking to do a 250/deca cycle.

Thanks for the feedback.

Oh dear...... Back to the drawing board M8'........

Ideally for a first cycle you ought to stick with one compound, which should be Testosterone.. either E or C, in my opinion..!!

For future reference how can you gauge any reaction or gains, if you are on two compounds? You won't know which compound is responsible for which reaction, either gains or side effects...?

Deca wouldn't be my compound of choice to add to any beginners cycle, 100mg is alleged to shut down natural testosterone production by as much as 100%.... Not good for a newbie to be f***ing about with your hormones to such a degree on a first cycle...!!

Duration of cycle is up to you, 10 X 1ml shots of 250mg/ml will last 10 weeks, so that might be a good place to start....

Test-E hits the blood stream after about 2-3 days and it takes about 4 half-lives to reach maximal blood concentrations 4 X 5 days = 20ish'.....

But you may feel the psychological effects much sooner......... :pfft:

[Stanley]

Good first cycle happy, noticed strength gains, recovery times improved, cardio; running was a bit harder - noticed calf muscles felt like they were going to explode on some days and the last 2-3 weeks of the 13 week cycle my knees and ankles felt a bit "Dry", I assume water loss on the joints. Managed to balance weight without having huge gains, keeping in mind was not aiming for mass gains, but kept lean, not much bloat.

PCT I did 20 Nolva for 21 days and finished up on Sunday, is this ok for a PCT cycle? I spoke to a few guys around locally and they said that would be ok; 500mg/2ML Mon/Thur 1ml/250ml on each day per week.

Next cycle going to do 2ML Deca and 2ML Test E, also wanting to run HGH with it, 10 week Test/Deca and HGH for maybe 6 months?

Body feels good overall. Newbie reporting =)

[southernsamurai]

close to a gram on your 2nd cycle :shock: and GH! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Rxx]

Jab first then ask questions? Seriously man you need to do your research first with this sort of stuff!

[Stanley]

Jab first then ask questions? Seriously man you need to do your research first with this sort of stuff!

Got lots of good advice via PM and a couple guys who were bodybuilding and on cycles. Everything seemed to go well besides stiff joints, combated that by getting a bit more Omega 3 daily, drinking more water (Came more bloat a little bit) and Joint Care from Pharmacy, seemed to work =)

I am asking about second cycle here, as reading up on various forums there is so many conflicting information and Americans tend to be a bit overkill sometimes, along with talking to guys at the Gym; being more towards bodybuilding gains, where as a few guys here from what I've had via PM are cycled towards repair/recover/cardio cycles.

close to a gram on your 2nd cycle :shock: and GH! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

A few guys who are bodybuilding said to perhaps cut down to a 8 week cycle for what I mentioned, as I did not have any bad sides on Test E for 13 weeks at 500mg/2ml per week. With the GH they said to let that run for a couple months before starting the cycle Test E/Deca, too see how my body reacts, one said 3 months would be more ideal. Sorry I should of mentioned that.

How long would one consider a decent amount of time for first GH cylce? Was thinking 25 to 30 months, 5IU, read up various info about building up to 5IU, however some have said that going onto 5 and keeping it there is acceptable?

http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&tb ... opin%20box

That is the product, unsure if known or not known here in NZ, anyone had any experience with it.

Thanks.

[jimmybro1]

This guy sounds like a statistic IMO

[Daz69]

How long would one consider a decent amount of time for first GH cylce? Was thinking 25 to 30 months, 5IU, read up various info about building up to 5IU, however some have said that going onto 5 and keeping it there is acceptable?

http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=en&tb ... opin%20box

That is the product, unsure if known or not known here in NZ, anyone had any experience with it.

Thanks.

We used this: http://www.gensci-china.com/gensci/cp1_ ... sp?MaxID=2

2-4 iu/day is a common dose, we used 5iu because it came in 10iu ampules so split over 2 days.... With testosterone.... T-3 is recommended also... 6-24 weeks......... Think its really expensive over here... Was 165 GBpounds when I was back home in sept 12.... Thats for 10 X 10iu....

[yeelang]

Jintropin and Ansomone are both pharmaceutical grade brands. I would stay away from Hygetropin, a lot of what can be ordered online and passed around the underground is fake.

You might want to look at a GHRH/GHRP combo, much more cost effective at lower dosages, more readily available than HGH and a better entry point to GH manipulation in my opinion.

As with anything to do with AAS, do your research. Understand the compounds, the dosages, the risks and how to mitigate them.

[Dinesh]

there is alot of jintropin around but i have my doubts as to whether alot of it is legit