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":3atf9rgx]wtf the gum is cheap as..you just go on quit-line website and fill in a form and they send you out a prescription card in the mail that you take into a pharmacy. its subsidised...you get something like $300 worth of gum for $3

Subtle lol, that's the exploit I didn't want to make public.

Quitline would be pissed if they knew we were using it to get ripped as kents for RnV and all that jazz...

But yeah a ton of gum for $3 \:D/

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Thanks Azide

Tii:

There's no studies suggesting further results from using more than 3g of DAA, because they only did tests at 3g a day.

You could probably get more results from double dosing. WHere it becomes optimal...no idea man.

Read up on how it increases aromatase activity though ay

That's what I was going to say, its there for a reason and get in before it goes up to $5. Oh and nicotine is addictive, that's the part you get addicted to not the other chemicals in it. But it is a lot better for you than smoking. Oh just remember that I work in the medical field.

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That's what I was going to say, its there for a reason and get in before it goes up to $5. Oh and nicotine is addictive, that's the part you get addicted to not the other chemicals in it. But it is a lot better for you than smoking. Oh just remember that I work in the medical field.

Apparently not on its own, only when combined with a MAOI found in tobacco smoke....

http://www.divinevapors.com/E-cigarette ... MAOIs.html

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/25/38/8593.full

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That's what I was going to say, its there for a reason and get in before it goes up to $5. Oh and nicotine is addictive, that's the part you get addicted to not the other chemicals in it. But it is a lot better for you than smoking. Oh just remember that I work in the medical field.

Apparently not on its own, only when combined with a MAOI found in tobacco smoke....

http://www.divinevapors.com/E-cigarette ... MAOIs.html

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/25/38/8593.full

That's fine that yo have found a couple of studies that support your thinking. However working in the medical field myself I know the difference.

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Settle, petals. :)

I think Azide could have phrased it better, but he has a valid point that "I work in a medical field" is hardly a convincing argument by itself, Andre! If you have compelling evidence because of where you work, then give us the evidence, not where you work.

It's a little bit like the guys who end a debate on nutrition with "And I squat 200kg!" :pfft:

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Okay as requested here are several links that prove that Nicotine is addictive.

http://www.quit.org.nz/62/help-to-quit/ ... d-lozenges

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2928221/

http://www.cantobacco.org.nz/the-issues ... -addiction

http://www.quit.org.nz/63/help-to-quit/ ... -addiction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_a ... withdrawal

The reason that we give out NR is simply that it is a lot cleaner than smoking with over 4000+ chemicals.

Now if you are wanting the nicotine hit, I would suggest that you use the gym, lozenges or a 21mg patch. Just so you know the gym and the lozenges release the same amount of nicotine. The reason that the gym has a large dose is that it "holds" onto the nicotine and does not rekease all of it.

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Okay as requested here are several links that prove that Nicotine is addictive.

http://www.quit.org.nz/62/help-to-quit/ ... d-lozenges

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2928221/

http://www.cantobacco.org.nz/the-issues ... -addiction

http://www.quit.org.nz/63/help-to-quit/ ... -addiction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_a ... withdrawal

The reason that we give out NR is simply that it is a lot cleaner than smoking with over 4000+ chemicals.

Now if you are wanting the nicotine hit, I would suggest that you use the gym, lozenges or a 21mg patch. Just so you know the gym and the lozenges release the same amount of nicotine. The reason that the gym has a large dose is that it "holds" onto the nicotine and does not rekease all of it.

I am confused do u mean gum?

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Okay as requested here are several links that prove that Nicotine is addictive.

http://www.quit.org.nz/62/help-to-quit/ ... d-lozenges

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2928221/

http://www.cantobacco.org.nz/the-issues ... -addiction

http://www.quit.org.nz/63/help-to-quit/ ... -addiction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_a ... withdrawal

The reason that we give out NR is simply that it is a lot cleaner than smoking with over 4000+ chemicals.

Now if you are wanting the nicotine hit, I would suggest that you use the gym, lozenges or a 21mg patch. Just so you know the gym and the lozenges release the same amount of nicotine. The reason that the gym has a large dose is that it "holds" onto the nicotine and does not rekease all of it.

I am confused do u mean gum?

---- yes gum not gym. The gum holds onto the nicotine.
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MONAMINE OXIDASE

Constituents of cigarette smoke other than nicotine contribute to nicotine addiction. Monoamine oxidases, enzymes located in catecholaminergic and other neurons, catalyze the metabolism of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin. Condensation products of acetaldehyde in cigarette smoke with biogenic amines inhibit the activity of monoamine oxidase type A and monoamine oxidase type B, and there is evidence that inhibition of monoamine oxidase contributes to the addictiveness of smoking by reducing the metabolism of dopamine

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2928221/

Technically, nicotine is not significantly addictive, as nicotine administered alone does not produce significant reinforcing properties. However, after coadministration with an MAOI, such as those found in tobacco, nicotine produces significant behavioral sensitization, a measure of addiction potential. This is similar in effect to amphetamine.

Guillem K, Vouillac C, Azar MR, et al. (September 2005). "Monoamine oxidase inhibition dramatically increases the motivation to self-administer nicotine in rats". J. Neurosci. 25 (38): 8593–600. doi:10.1523/JNEUROSCI.2139-05.2005. PMID 16177026.

Villégier AS, Blanc G, Glowinski J, Tassin JP (September 2003). "Transient behavioral sensitization to nicotine becomes long-lasting with monoamine oxidases inhibitors". Pharmacol. Biochem. Behav. 76 (2): 267–74. doi:10.1016/S0091-3057(03)00223-5

Tobacco smoke contains anabasine, anatabine, and nornicotine. It also contains the monoamine oxidase inhibitors harman and norharman. These beta-carboline compounds significantly decrease MAO activity in smokers. MAO enzymes break down monoaminergic neurotransmitters such as dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin. It is thought that the powerful interaction between the MAOI's and the nicotine is responsible for most of the addictive properties of tobacco smoking.

Herraiz T, Chaparro C (2005). "Human monoamine oxidase is inhibited by tobacco smoke: beta-carboline alkaloids act as potent and reversible inhibitors". Biochem. Biophys. Res. Commun. 326 (2): 378–86. doi:10.1016/j.bbrc.2004.11.033. PMID 15582589.

Fowler JS, Volkow ND, Wang GJ, et al. (1998). "Neuropharmacological actions of cigarette smoke: brain monoamine oxidase B (MAO B) inhibition". J Addict Dis 17 (1): 23–34. doi:10.1300/J069v17n01_03. PMID 9549600.

Hey Nurse, you want to try and read your own studys... The monoamine oxidase inhibitor in tobacco smoke is responsible for the addictive qualities of nicotine....

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