Benadryl + clen?

[donz]

So hey, I've done a couple of clen cycles in the past with good results but a good mate of mine today broformed me of some information in which he said using benadryl cough syrup during a clen cycle will help clear the beta receptors and give you less or no down regulation. Has anyone heard or able to give me their thoughts on this?

I generally run 1ml a day liquid 5 days on 2 days off, upping that to 1ml first thing at about 5am and then .5 later at about 11am.

[kiwicannon]

So hey, I've done a couple of clen cycles in the past with good results but a good mate of mine today broformed me of some information in which he said using benadryl cough syrup during a clen cycle will help clear the beta receptors and give you less or no down regulation. Has anyone heard or able to give me their thoughts on this?

I generally run 1ml a day liquid 5 days on 2 days off, upping that to 1ml first thing at about 5am and then .5 later at about 11am.

Just wana be clear is it 1ml of bena or 1ml clen mate?

So are you using benadryl from start clen cycle or.....?

[donz]

Sorry I use 1ml of clen per day, 5 days on 2 days off ( generally sometimes ill up it ) - have not used bena before, just wanted to look into if the info I got on it clearing receptors and see if its valid or worth while

[Daz69]

Sorry I use 1ml of clen per day, 5 days on 2 days off ( generally sometimes ill up it ) - have not used bena before, just wanted to look into if the info I got on it clearing receptors and see if its valid or worth while

Two days off is not long enough to clear beta receptors due to half life of Clenbuterol.... Stay on Clen but every third week take an anti-histamine like ketotifen for a week...

[donz]

Hmm I thought it was like 36 hours or something ( just from what I was reading ) I like your idea though might give that a crank

[Daz69]

Hmm I thought it was like 36 hours or something ( just from what I was reading ) I like your idea though might give that a crank

I've actually read there's something like a double half life of 7 + 36hrs but I'd have to check....

A half-life of 36hrs is just that, half the life of the compound..!!! IE: 50mcgs becomes 25mcgs then 36hrs later 12.5mcgs.... 6.25 etc etc

So you see its in your system, be it in a much smaller amount but still biologically active... Plus you have the previous days half-lifes compounded to add too........

So 48hrs off doesn't give enough time for Clen to totally clear your system.... 2 weeks off might be nearer to clear beta-receptors....

Hence no need to worry yourself with Ketotifen every 3rd week...

I believe it works something like that I'd have to double check with Clen..... Its having a bit of a re-surge at the moment.. Prices are right down so very popular in the UK.... :shock:

[donz]

Ahhh crap shows how little my understanding was "derp 36 hours and its gone" hah thanks for that it'd be why one of my mates says 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Not sure why the others all do 5 on 2 off - hard when there's no actual literature on what works!

Im on day 7 today so I'll just go for 14 then I guess~ thanks btw

[tomsammce]

Whats a ml of Clen. Donz, just FYI Clen is dosed in mcg per ml do uv probably got a weak version in future u might be given s higher dosed Clen. You might know this but if you don't it could be quite harmful for you and others

[Chemo]

Whats a ml of Clen. Donz, just FYI Clen is dosed in mcg per ml do uv probably got a weak version in future u might be given s higher dosed Clen. You might know this but if you don't it could be quite harmful for you and others

Good point.

1ml of 100mcg/ml and 200mcg/ml are two totally different experiences.

200mcg is not fun lol

[donz]

It's 50mcg per ml just double checked ~ so yeah I find that 1.5 ml a day is a good amount for me and 100 is just a little too much

[donz]

2 random questions.. I can't seem to google the answers le sigh! How come people take ephidrine between clen, like during the off weeks/days and not while on it anddddd what is in benadryl that clears the receptors?

[Daz69]

2 random questions.. I can't seem to google the answers le sigh! How come people take ephidrine between clen, like during the off weeks/days and not while on it anddddd what is in benadryl that clears the receptors?

An anti-histemine every 3rd week like ketotifen doesn't clear receptors it stops beta-2 receptor downgrade....

Ephedrine works on a similar action to Clen, so I assume it may be used to replicate Clens action in the week off.....

I might suggest using ECA or Clen + T-3.... Not all together.... It seems like a waste, plus there might be health issues of using them all together...

[Terrymundo]

mildly on topic:

clen + t3 when off cycle? been told its a pretty catabolic cocktail. can any more experiened users comment?

[donz]

Ahhh I see! Cheers man~ yeah I don't really wanna jump on T3 for now Im just trying some of these that my mate sent to try

http://ephedraoutlet.com/product/5-Ephe ... hedra.html

See how they go then try sneak some in with crossed fingers like he did and i'll use that between the clen then I got some old 1MR with the DMA which is pretty baller still, gives me the best buzz / appetite supressing feeling, but that'd be well different and I could use this during clen I'd say

/inb4death

[Daz69]

mildly on topic:

clen + t3 when off cycle? been told its a pretty catabolic cocktail. can any more experiened users comment?

You're correct, T-3 is meant to be catabolic and is meant to be used with Testosterone....

I assumed he was talking about the weeks off Clen, not off cycle... But if he had listened to a word of what I'd posted he would now know there is no need to come off clen....... :doh:

[Terrymundo]

mildly on topic:

clen + t3 when off cycle? been told its a pretty catabolic cocktail. can any more experiened users comment?

You're correct, T-3 is meant to be catabolic and is meant to be used with Testosterone....

ok may just leave it in my box of goodies :grin:

[train_insane]

1ml of 100mcg/ml and 200mcg/ml are two totally different experiences.

200mcg is not fun lol

[Diab0lic]

1ml of 100mcg/ml and 200mcg/ml are two totally different experiences.

200mcg is not fun lol

Hey chemo can you explain this?

At 200mcg you're going to experience tachycardia, nausea, shakes, cramps, headaches, anxiety, insomnia, etc, etc. You will probably get some of these at 100mcg too but it varies between users

I know some people do take high doses and that there is always differences between what different people can take (for anything) but I have a hard time believing that anyone on 200 mics of clen a day doesn't feel like shit while they're doing it

[DIANABOL]

1ml of 100mcg/ml and 200mcg/ml are two totally different experiences.

200mcg is not fun lol

Hey chemo can you explain this?

At 200mcg you're going to experience tachycardia, nausea, shakes, cramps, headaches, anxiety, insomnia, etc, etc. You will probably get some of these at 100mcg too but it varies between users

I know some people do take high doses and that there is always differences between what different people can take (for anything) but I have a hard time believing that anyone on 200 mics of clen a day doesn't feel like shit while they're doing it

I use 200mcg a day and eventually feel fine. The first few days I feel like shit, more tired and lethargic than anything else (but too wired to sleep) but after that I'm fine other than shakes etc.

[donz]

Daymmm 200 would be quite costly though if you ran for a long period aye? I get some random hand cramps at 100 which my flatmates find hilarious but it's easy enough to sort with some taurine and the occasional banana other than that I've never had any side effects !

I will state though that going from a cycle while on about 2.2k cals a day, weights + 2 cardio sessions to a holiday in L.A and Vegas with no workouts at about 6k cals a day ( mostly from donuts, fried twinkies and fried cheese cakes ) + being drunk for 13 out of 17 days is a pretty good way to bulk... if you're after pure 100% legit man flab. I have some nice before after pics on my phone I'll upload tonight they're quite hilarious - 84kg to 92kg in about 17 days yeeeeyah

[Lowgz]

Is clen required to hit lower single digit bodyfats?

What I mean is, is it a lot more beneficial to run clen when aiming for 6-8% as opposed to a clean diet on a 500~ cal deficit? Or does clen just make it easier (Ie burns more cals whilst doing nothing allowing you to eat more?)

[tomsammce]

Clen will burn fat and get you to your goal quicker but there's no reason u can't get to 6% body fat without Clen.

[DIANABOL]

Clen will burn fat and get you to your goal quicker but there's no reason u can't get to 6% body fat without Clen.

This :nod:

Its an aid not a crutch yada yada yada.

[donz]

Yeah can mention from recent exp I was cutting pretty good and got down to about 84-85 quite lean and hit a plateau which is when I started on the clen which helped me drop down to about 82.something ~ it's not easy either, makes you pretty hungry ( well did for me ) so you gotta try even harder to stick to your 3 slices of lettuce, 1 grape and half a carrot

[Diab0lic]

1ml of 100mcg/ml and 200mcg/ml are two totally different experiences.

200mcg is not fun lol

Hey chemo can you explain this?

At 200mcg you're going to experience tachycardia, nausea, shakes, cramps, headaches, anxiety, insomnia, etc, etc. You will probably get some of these at 100mcg too but it varies between users

I know some people do take high doses and that there is always differences between what different people can take (for anything) but I have a hard time believing that anyone on 200 mics of clen a day doesn't feel like shit while they're doing it

I use 200mcg a day and eventually feel fine. The first few days I feel like shit, more tired and lethargic than anything else (but too wired to sleep) but after that I'm fine other than shakes etc.

I've never gone over 120 and at that dose I felt like dirt. Stuff gives me pretty shitty headaches so I don't really use it any more. I feel better on low dose DNP than 100mcg+ of clen.

Do you see good lard loss at 200mcg over and above what you would see at 100?